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Posted on 10/04/2005 2:49:20 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
had jihad material
Documents found in apartment of student who blew himself up
By Jon Dougherty
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com
An Oklahoma University student who killed himself by detonating a bomb strapped to his body outside a packed stadium over the weekend was a "suicide bomber" in possession of "Islamic jihad" materials, according to a new report.
Joel Henry Hinrichs III, 21, an engineering major at the school blew himself up outside OU's football stadium during Saturday night's game against Kansas State. Doug Hagmann, a seasoned investigator, told WND he was informed by multiple reliable law-enforcement sources familiar with the investigation into the incident that authorities recovered a "significant amount" of "jihad" materials, as well as Hinrichs' computer.
Hagmann also said those same sources indicated police and federal agents "had pulled additional explosives from [Hinrichs'] house," including triacetone triperoxide, or TATP, "homemade explosive [that is] very potent but relatively easily manufactured."
TATP was also used in the July mass transit bombings in London, CNN reported, and was used by attempted bomber Richard Reid, who packed his shoes with the compound in an unsuccessful attempt to destroy a U.S.-bound American Airlines flight in December 2001.
The confiscated jihad documents "referenced bomb-making manuals and that type of thing," Hagmann said, who added Hinrichs' apartment in Norman, Okla., is "located near the Islamic Society."
A phone at the Islamic Society of Norman went unanswered yesterday. Also, there was no response to an e-mail inquiry by press time.
Hagmann reported his findings on his website.
WorldNetDaily reported earlier that officials carted away a huge cache of explosives from Hinrichs' apartment. Police were overheard telling residents it would take "several trips and could take up to 24 hours" to remove it all, according to the Daily Oklahoman. A canister trailer used for detonating or transporting potentially explosive material was being used to haul items away.
University officials have shrugged off reports Hinrichs was anything other than a disturbed student who acted alone.
"We know that he has had what I would call emotional difficulties in the past. There is certainly no evidence at this point which points to any other kind of motivation other than his personal problems," said University President David Boren over the weekend.
In a joint statement, the FBI's Oklahoma bureau chief, Salvador Hernandez, U.S. Attorney John Richter and OU Police Chief Elizabeth Woolen said, "At this point, we have no information that suggests that there is any additional threat posed by others related to this incident."
FBI spokesman Gary Johnson told WND he couldn't add anything, other than the investigation is ongoing.
His agency has been joined in the investigation by the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms; the Joint Terrorism Task Force; the University of Oklahoma Police Department; the Norman Police Department; and the Cleveland County Sheriff's Office.
Official accounts say Hinrichs detonated an explosive device while seated on a bench outside Cross Hall, a university science building about 100 yards from the stadium.
Some 84,000 people were inside watching the game at the time of the explosion. Officials say it did not appear Hinrichs attempted to enter the venue.
While it is too soon to know whether the Hinrichs incident was isolated or part of a larger scheme to launch suicide attacks in the U.S. similar to those in Great Britain earlier this year and those that are a regular occurrence in Iraq, experts believe it is only a matter of time before such attacks do occur in U.S. cities.
Bruce Newsome, a terrorism researcher at the Rand Corporation, a noted think tank, told ABC News shortly after the London bombings the four-man plot carried out there is a "likely model for future U.S. attacks."
He said the four men used for the attack were clean: no criminal records, did not show up on any terrorism watch lists, and were not part of any extremist activities like Hinrichs.
That makes tracking such attackers virtually impossible, Newsome pointed out.
And, in Iraq last week, a woman pushed her way into a line of men at an army recruitment center before detonating a bomb she carried. The last time women were used in suicide attacks was during the war in Iraq in 2003, when two women in a car one of them pregnant detonated a device, killing three soldiers, the BBC reported.
ping the troops...
That's why we have to be going after the nests. Get them at the larval stage.
Here we go.
This is the correct link to Hagmann's site:
Re: Oklahoma - Interesting Links ON THE NET...
They do remind me of orcs.
I only listen to radio during the day, and we don't have cable TV, but I still have not heard one word on this whole incident from any news source. I wonder why it's not being picked up?
Nice work! Thanks.
Info from NEIN here.
lol just testing that pesky dynamite wick!
The commie 'reporters' are tacitly nodding their approval to one another as they too, imbeds one and all ... ask the inane questions at the press meetyings ...
"Sir ... sir! .... is it true you now believe that hurricane Rita was handled better than Katrina?"
"WTF? Whodoya' think I am ... Pecos Bill?
You are stuck on stupid!"
Charlie Rangel is no longer acting like Sean's friend ... I believe final, or near final plans are being enacted for Satan to commence his Jihad against the remnant of Christian America.
Maybe that's the thinking behind President Bush's selection of Harriet Miers.
Thanks for post/links. BTTT.
Regardless, they are the only source, except for blogs, for any info on this event right now.
A suicide bombing, failed or not, at a packed stadium is kind of important,y'know? It's a bit frustrating that the media is almost totally blacking this out.
experts believe it is only a matter of time before such attacks do occur in U.S. cities.
Me neither after that Aug 16 false alarm about the Islamofascist nuke attack on America and I bought all that bottled water and canned tuna!/sar
Eventually, the truth will be public and then we'll have more info.
Thank you. Adding to the ping.
It's entirely possible that this kid had every intention of walking into that packed stadium and killing as many people as possible. I believe he had second thoughts and decided to just end it right there on that park bench.
Thank you FReepers for all the great info.
I am suddenly seized with fits of laughter, thinking of Hinrichs as "Allah's Forrest Gump..." you know the wonderful shot from the movie cover with Forrest sitting on the park bench?
Of course I don't mean to insult Forrest, one of my all-time favorite characters. Hinrichs is like Forrest without the good sense that God gave him!
Just throwing out the idea for some clever FReeper to possibly create a spoof of the Forrest Gump bomber or some such. Ridiculing the "Religion of Pieces" and its stupid, maniacal followers is useful, I think.
I have yet to see this from someone that didn't use homelandsecurity.us as a source.
I need to find it sourced from someone else before I can give it real credibility.
First off, word's been floating around about Islamic material already. I've been searching for something solid. WND is a lot more solid than what I had Sunday.
"Eventually, the truth will be public and then we'll have more info."
Did you hear a peep about this bombing on talk radio yesterday? I didn't. NOT EVEN TALK RADIO! The Feds are growing long arms, indeed. How are voters supposed to know what kind of president we need in 2008?
One thing's for sure, at least WND is keeping this explosion from being completely buried from the news. We know it happened. God bless WND!
For pity's sake. Someone tell me that she was coerced.
"TATP" is known for premature explosions also. He might have been resting/waiting for halftime/adjusting vest????
From the Net:
Anonymous AND third-hand:
Doug Hagmann, a seasoned investigator, told WND he was informed by multiple reliable law-enforcement sources familiar with the investigation into the incident...
And these undisclosed but reliable sources are not willing to share this information with anyone except the redoubtable Mr. Hagmann?
The rumors, uninformed sources, etc. all just KNEW that it was islamic crazies. This went on for weeks before the police would confirm any information at all.
Ultimately, it was the upstairs neighbors, drug dealers, who tried to rob and then murdered the family.
Nothing at all to do with islamo fascists.
Rush, Sean, Bob Grant, Boortz, all of them.
Kind of like ACME brand Nitro Glycerine? hehe
Has NEIN ever used a real, verifiable source for anything? NEIN seems to base its stories upon information obtained from super-secret sources deep within anals of the FBICIANSADHSLEO, who can't be disclosed because of ungoing investigations, national security, fear of reprisal, blah, blah, blah... In my opinion, only a small percentage of information that comes from NEIN is ever verified and that stuff is obvious, like tomorrow is will be light, followed by darkness. Seems to me that NEIN has a bunch of shills running around FR promoting the website whenever something happens than can arguably be associated with Islamic terrorism. Caveat Empteor.
"Mullah always said, life is like a box of TATP: You never know when it's gonna go off."
To WND's credit, they do direct the reader over to North East Intelligence Network in order to have them judge for themselves. But you're right, they would be well advised to keep a longer distance between themselves and NEIN.
It will be interesting to see if any of this pans out.
Jihadists are recruiting from the mental institutions of the world and seem to have no problem meeting their recruiting goals.
Maybe Farah has money invested in SPAM.
Now hold on one damn second there pal.
WND has credibility?
I just don't feel inclined to salivate on cue every time the mere possibility of terrorist activity is presented. There is more than enough verified mischief out there to occupy me and vent my rage against.
It's possible the Jihad material may be incidental. Right now the only thing he seems to have in common with them is a sick fascination with homemade explosives and suicide.
I hope you don't mean me. I just heard of it this morning.
Tell me, how reliable are the news sources that are saying diddly squat about this? I challenge their reliability. Hagman has an exclusive, and so WND is being sure to credit him. Time will tell. People say, "Let's wait and see" until someone comes out with news. Then its, "Let's hurry up and condemn," especially when its hot news not being discussed by the 'big boys'.
Does anyone know how much the media (print, TV, radio, etc.) hauls in revenue-wise from football (or any pro or college stadium sport) every year?
It is millions upon millions of dollars.
It would be interesting to view a national football game with empty stands. No concessionaires, no cheering, just dead silence as a leery, freaked-out public stays away from stadiums in droves because of bomb scares.
Many colleges and universities would go under with no athletic department revenue.
Pres. Boren understands this well. So should we.
This is your answer to "why" there's a news blackout.
The WND was persecuted by the IRS back when Clinton ran office. They helped this forum get public notice, and people around here bash it relentlessly. Please name one fabricated quote by WND.
I tend to agree with you. It's phikapmom and her eyewitness sources, NEIN, and a few blogs. THAT"S IT!
The rest is up to the pajamahadeen, I guess. But we're all tinfoil freaks and Dan Rather isn't.
No, not you personally.
I agree that there are many excuses for suppressing a free press.
How do you trash a dump?
Exactly. Same reason that jet that crashed in Queens a few years ago 'wasn't terrorist related'.
But when Freepers who are interested in national security over money try to get to the truth, we're just wild-eyed psychos.
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