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Hinrichs (OU Suicide Bomber) Tried To Buy Ammonium Nitrate
KOCO TV ^

Posted on 10/04/2005 4:11:44 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana

NORMAN, Okla. -- The general manager of a Norman feed store said Tuesday that Joel Henry Hinrichs III had inquired about purchasing a significant amount of ammonium nitrate, the primary ingredient used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

Dustin Ellison, the general manager of Ellison Feed & Seed on Porter Avenue, said that a man matching Hinrichs' description had come into the store days before he blew himself up on OU's campus. Ellison said the man asked about ammonium nitrate, but couldn't offer a reason why he needed it.

After the bombing, Ellison said he thought nothing of it. However, when he saw Hinrichs' photo, it triggered his memory.

To this point, authorities still suggest Hinrichs' only motive for blowing himself up was suicide. The FBI released a statement Tuesday evening saying that "there is no known link between Hinrichs and any terrorist or extremist organization(s) or activities."

The release also indicated that the FBI believes there is "no known current threat posed by any additional explosive materials."

Ellison noted that his store doesn't carry ammonium nitrate any longer after recent legislation required new paperwork for stores to sell the product.

Stay tuned to Eyewitness News 5 for further details.


TOPICS: US: Oklahoma; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boomersooner; domesticterrorism; explosives; hinrichs; nonterroristattack; normanbombing; okcbombing; oubombing
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1 posted on 10/04/2005 4:11:46 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: PhiKapMom; Lizarde; indcons

PING


2 posted on 10/04/2005 4:12:27 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: MizSterious

MEGA-PING


3 posted on 10/04/2005 4:13:27 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: hispanarepublicana

I saw the original thread about this case but never have heard anything about it on the news.


4 posted on 10/04/2005 4:14:36 PM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

where jayna davis?


5 posted on 10/04/2005 4:14:44 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: hispanarepublicana
"To this point, authorities still suggest Hinrichs' only motive for blowing himself up was suicide. The FBI released a statement Tuesday evening saying that "there is no known link between Hinrichs and any terrorist or extremist organization(s) or activities."

Sounds like heavy BS to me.

6 posted on 10/04/2005 4:14:50 PM PDT by Paladin2 (MSM rioted over Katrina and looted the truth)
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To: fooman

Jayna is not a reporter anymore, sadly. Her book was excellent and she will hopefully get on this story independently.


8 posted on 10/04/2005 4:16:17 PM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: hispanarepublicana

"Joel Henry Hinrichs III had inquired about purchasing a significant amount of ammonium nitrate, the primary ingredient used in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing"

Well, it does look as if something bigger was afoot now, doesn't it?


9 posted on 10/04/2005 4:16:22 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: hispanarepublicana
To this point, authorities still suggest Hinrichs' only motive for blowing himself up was suicide. The FBI released a statement Tuesday evening saying that "there is no known link between Hinrichs and any terrorist or extremist organization(s) or activities."

Yep, and you are going to go to a crowded football stadium for the purpose of suicide by explosion, right? The fact that they found Jihadist materials in Hinrichs' flat is only a coincidence, too, right?

When McVeigh did his dirty deed, no stone was left unturned in outing white supremicists and militias. How many people were killed in OKC, 140? Compare that to 9-11 and expend at least the same amount of effort on the Islamofacists!

10 posted on 10/04/2005 4:18:09 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Is there any new/further info about him having a Pakistani roommate and that he (Hinrick's) frequented a mosque?


11 posted on 10/04/2005 4:18:13 PM PDT by blam
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To: RegulatorCountry

"Well, it does look as if something bigger was afoot now, doesn't it?"

Yes, it does.


12 posted on 10/04/2005 4:19:34 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: hispanarepublicana

This is the recurring phrase in most of the articles on Google News about this case:

"...died Saturday when a device attached to his body exploded".

There was much less hedging when the pizza delivery guy in the North East had his head blown off by a bomb that someone else allegedly locked around his neck.


13 posted on 10/04/2005 4:20:18 PM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Did Hinrichs blow himself up while the OU band played Boomer Sooner?


14 posted on 10/04/2005 4:20:22 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Vigilanteman

"When McVeigh did his dirty deed, no stone was left unturned..."

Plenty of stones that led to Iraqis were not just left unturned, but completely ignored.


15 posted on 10/04/2005 4:20:42 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: blam; digitalbrownshirt
Is there any new/further info about him having a Pakistani roommate and that he (Hinrick's) frequented a mosque?

Well, supposedly digitalbrownshirt heard the local CBS TV affiliate's reporters saying something about this about an hour ago, but it's nowhere to be found on the 'net or the MSM.

16 posted on 10/04/2005 4:20:53 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: RegulatorCountry
The substitute host for Savage said tonight there was more to the story. I only caught a minute of it. Can anyone follow up?
17 posted on 10/04/2005 4:20:53 PM PDT by Burf (We'll all be drinkin that free Bubble Up and eatin that Rainbow Stew.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Thanks for posting this.


18 posted on 10/04/2005 4:21:34 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Yep, and you are going to go to a crowded football stadium for the purpose of suicide by explosion, right? The fact that they found Jihadist materials in Hinrichs' flat is only a coincidence, too, right?

Nothing to see here, move along.
19 posted on 10/04/2005 4:22:27 PM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource Federal Judiciary and US Senate to India, NOW!)
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To: LongShot; Ernest_at_the_Beach; BOBTHENAILER

Maybe he wanted the AN to make his suicide bombing more effective.


20 posted on 10/04/2005 4:22:57 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: hispanarepublicana; PhiKapMom

They are saying they will have "more details" at 10 tonight. I'll watch to see what they might have.


21 posted on 10/04/2005 4:23:53 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Maybe the NYT and the WP will run banner healines tomorrow?



Naah!


22 posted on 10/04/2005 4:25:14 PM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Grampa Dave

"Maybe he wanted the AN to make his suicide bombing more effective."

Or, maybe a little of that, a little of this, a little diesel fuel and voila, truck bomb, act II in Oklahoma.


23 posted on 10/04/2005 4:25:24 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for posting this.

You're welcome. I just ask in return that you help keep the story bumped and ping your friends since MSM=MIA.

24 posted on 10/04/2005 4:25:37 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: RegulatorCountry
"Plenty of stones that led to Iraqis were not just left unturned, but completely ignored."

More like, turned back over so no one would notice.

25 posted on 10/04/2005 4:26:02 PM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: Vigilanteman

The rumor that he had Jihadist materials was only footed by WND... hardly a reliable source for the past year, at least.


26 posted on 10/04/2005 4:26:37 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: MizSterious

"More like, turned back over so no one would notice."

Why? That's what I've always wondered. So the economy wouldn't tank?


27 posted on 10/04/2005 4:27:59 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: STARWISE; silent_jonny; ilovew; Wolfstar

Ping to some of you who might be interested in this item. It's becoming more and more evident that this kid was not that tragic 'individual suicide' that the University President is so anxious to proclaim.

Certainly gives a whole new meaning to Boomer Sooner.


28 posted on 10/04/2005 4:30:50 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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This came from freeper digitalbrownshirt's blog: Hinrichs bombshells
Local Oklahoma City CBS affiliate News 9 had a report on Joel Hinrichs this afternoon that said he had a Pakastani room mate. They didn't want to name him yet, but it appeared that they're going to actually cover the story, so President Boren better come up with a new story soon. They also said that Hinrichs tried to buy ammonium nitrate from a feed store a few days before his death. That's the same fertilizer that was used by Timothy McVeigh when he blew up the Murrah Building in downtown Oklahoma City. In additon the report said that their sources had seen Joel Hinrichs at the Islamic center that is located just a block from his home.

I'll post a link to the story as soon as it's posted on their website. Hopefully tonight.

Just a suicide my ***.


29 posted on 10/04/2005 4:31:10 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: hispanarepublicana

Let us not jump to conclusions. Depressed people often try to find an outlet for their depression by getting a hobby.
Oklahoma is known as being a state with a large Agricultural base. Hinrichs most likely had decided to take up farming and was laying in some supplies. He was also reputed to be unhappy with his major. I think it is not unreasonable to think he was switching from Engineering to Agriculture. OU does have its Aggies, does it not?
If you look at it with the calm rational eyes of Boren we might conclude that Hinrichs choose the open space by the stadium to commit suicide because it reminded him of his frustration of being taken away from his love of farming by the demands of his ME studies. Ok. We can remove the sarcasm tag now.


30 posted on 10/04/2005 4:32:25 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: mhking; nutmeg; backhoe; Cindy; kcvl; hispanarepublicana

FYI re the best kept secret of the MSM this past week.


31 posted on 10/04/2005 4:32:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
"Ellison said the man asked about ammonium nitrate, but couldn't offer a reason why he needed it. After the bombing, Ellison said he thought nothing of it."

I find it really hard to fathom, after OKC, in a suburb of OKC, that someone would come into a place, ask for ammonium nitrate, give no reason why he wanted it, and NOBODY FOLLOWS UP ON IT.
32 posted on 10/04/2005 4:33:01 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
So the economy wouldn't tank?

That would be a good first guess. Plus, their fear of mass panic and possibly reprisals.

33 posted on 10/04/2005 4:33:16 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: Vigilanteman

"How many people were killed in OKC, 140?"

168


34 posted on 10/04/2005 4:35:00 PM PDT by loboinok (Gun Control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: All

The media silence is DEAFENING! sending this on to Drudge, LGF, and others... you should too


35 posted on 10/04/2005 4:35:19 PM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Lizarde
Sooner or later the nay sayers will apologize

Sooner Boomer? Yes, I know. Poor taste.

36 posted on 10/04/2005 4:35:44 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (The Land o' Gar (yes I have a gunrack in my truck))
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To: RegulatorCountry

When someone is looking a AN, they thinking beyond just killing themselves.


37 posted on 10/04/2005 4:36:53 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: hispanarepublicana

Good for News 9! Is that KOCO? If so, kudoes to them for not knuckling under and burying this story, in fact for aggressively following up on it.


39 posted on 10/04/2005 4:38:12 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: Grampa Dave

"beyond just killing themselves."

Maybe he was deeply nihilist, and fascinated with becoming "pink mist?"


40 posted on 10/04/2005 4:39:11 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: RegulatorCountry

He was a sick puppy.

Now we need to know was he sick by himself or did some imported jihadists make him sick.


41 posted on 10/04/2005 4:40:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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To: hispanarepublicana
Ellison said the man asked about ammonium nitrate, but couldn't offer a reason why he needed it.
Given all the news after the Oklahoma City bombing, this jackass out to be horsewhipped just for being so stupid.
42 posted on 10/04/2005 4:42:11 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: hispanarepublicana

I am listening to Rick Roberts subbing for Michael Savage today.

Roberts said Jihad materials were found in the bomber's apartment.

Someone posted in the live thread Saturday that they talked to the bomber's frat brothers and they said he was not associated with Islam.

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Apparently, there is still more info to come to light on this.


43 posted on 10/04/2005 4:43:46 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Grampa Dave

"Now we need to know was he sick by himself or did some imported jihadists make him sick."

Predators are skilled at recognizing weakness. He was likely very suggestible and open to their efforts. Children of academic lefties are uniquely malleable in this regard, a literal empty vessel waiting to be filled; think John Walker Lindh.


44 posted on 10/04/2005 4:44:05 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: hispanarepublicana

"there is no known link between Hinrichs and any terrorist or extremist organization(s) or activities."


Neither was the unibomber or Eric Rudolph and according to FBI claims Tim McVeigh.


45 posted on 10/04/2005 4:44:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: oh8eleven

Which one? Too late for Hinrichs...


47 posted on 10/04/2005 4:46:46 PM PDT by null and void (Up to maximum individual freedom consistent with order, or down to the ant heap of totalitarianism)
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To: Paladin2
"there is no known link between Hinrichs and any terrorist or extremist organization(s) or activities."

Maybe that's the out word on that one. Maybe they don't have any links that they want to KNOW for public consumption right now. That's ok as long as (a) they have a good but temporary reason for keeping people in the dark (to track down perps and build the links); (b) they come clean when they do know what's up.

Recent evidence suggests they may never let it out. But I think this one is just too public, with too many loose ends, they will have to release what they know because there are too many people who know pieces of it. There is also going to be heavy, heavy pressure from the Univ of Oklahoma administration to keep the wraps on this one.

48 posted on 10/04/2005 4:46:49 PM PDT by JustaCowgirl
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To: hispanarepublicana

Didn't he note during the Fraternity's minutes about trying to buy "ammo" on Ebay, and some guy maybe getting his address?


49 posted on 10/04/2005 4:47:41 PM PDT by kcar (The UN sucks, but a runaway federal government's not much better)
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To: hispanarepublicana

This guy was a Jihad terrorist.


50 posted on 10/04/2005 4:47:46 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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