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(Michelle Malkin) THE OKLAHOMA SUICIDE BOMBER
Michelle Malkin dot com ^ | 10-4-05 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 10/04/2005 7:40:34 PM PDT by doug from upland

THE OKLAHOMA SUICIDE BOMBER

By

Michelle Malkin

  ·   October 04, 2005 04:27 PM

***updated...attempted ammonium nitrate purchase?

Veteran journalist Mark Tapscott raises red flags over the MSM's coverage of the Oklahoma suicide bomber.

hinrichs.jpg
Who is Joel Hinrichs?

Keeping an eye on the story...

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730pm EDT update. Hinrichs reportedly tried to buy ammonium nitrate. Gateway Pundit Jim Hoft has details.

The story was broken by KOCO 5 at Channel Oklahoma.com.

Flopping Aces reports: "Apparently the local CBS affiliate in OKC had a report that Hinrichs has been known to visit the local Islamic center around the corner from his apartment..."

Wizbang with details from this morning.

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1 posted on 10/04/2005 7:40:36 PM PDT by doug from upland
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Oklahoma City's Channel 9 Blows Bomber story Wide Open

More info already up on here...

2 posted on 10/04/2005 7:43:40 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: doug from upland; PhiKapMom

bump & ping


3 posted on 10/04/2005 7:44:59 PM PDT by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: doug from upland

It's interesting that this guys' backpack detonated prematurely. Looks like God was watching over us.


4 posted on 10/04/2005 7:45:29 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: All
I had a brief discussion with Jayna Davis a short time ago. She is not suprised at this and points to the Norman mosque and Zacharias Moussaoui. Perhaps she can join this thread tomorrow.
5 posted on 10/04/2005 7:46:08 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Thanks, missed that.


6 posted on 10/04/2005 7:46:32 PM PDT by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: AZ_Cowboy

Thanks for the link. Jayna directed me to the reporting from Channel 5. I hope this added something to that story.


7 posted on 10/04/2005 7:48:08 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: doug from upland
She is not suprised at this and points to the Norman mosque and Zacharias Moussaoui. Perhaps she can join this thread tomorrow.

Channel 9 mentioned that today, that it was the same mosque that Moussaoui attended.

8 posted on 10/04/2005 7:48:09 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (trust but verify)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Jayna also directed me to pages 299-302 of THE THIRD TERRORIST. I don't know that I have time to transcribe that. Anyone up to it?


9 posted on 10/04/2005 7:50:03 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: visualops; doug from upland

No problem, folks.


10 posted on 10/04/2005 7:50:59 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: All

I am just starting to catch up after being out of town for five days and have missed much of this story. Jayna indicated that he was probably waiting for people to come out after the game and was near buses. Is that right?


11 posted on 10/04/2005 7:52:27 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: dubyaismypresident

It's also the same mosque Nick Berg visited.


12 posted on 10/04/2005 7:55:26 PM PDT by digitalbrownshirt (http://digitalbrownshirt.blogspot.com)
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To: doug from upland

This story is starting to get out.

I'm in total sympathy with not wanting to panic the crowd at the stadium until they had been gotten safely out, but I'm sick and tired of covering up these terrorist crimes.

I learned to expect clinton to cover up, because it came automatically to him, but it's long past time to turn over a new page and start telling the truth about this threat. Americans are not children or hapless subjects. They can handle the truth.


13 posted on 10/04/2005 7:56:31 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: doug from upland

BUMP!


14 posted on 10/04/2005 7:58:36 PM PDT by PilloryHillary (Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.)
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To: Cicero

CLOSE the mosques NOW. OUTLAW islam NOW. islam is NOT a religion, it is a CULTURE at odds with the west and like a virus, MUST BE KEPT OUT!


15 posted on 10/04/2005 8:00:32 PM PDT by Zrob (freedom without lies)
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To: doug from upland

There are a few freepers from the thread the other night now smiling with the sweet comfort of I told ya so.


16 posted on 10/04/2005 8:01:47 PM PDT by badpacifist (<tagline expired>)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

17 posted on 10/04/2005 8:04:27 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: nutmeg

Thanks for the update.


19 posted on 10/04/2005 8:10:56 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: doug from upland

Have you talked with Jayne lately and does she have any interest in this story?

I'm sending you freepmail.


20 posted on 10/04/2005 8:11:12 PM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: Peach

I spoke with her an hour ago when she directed me to this story and mentioned the Norman mosque. I'm trying to get her to come and join us on this thread tomorrow.


21 posted on 10/04/2005 8:12:30 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: doug from upland

I'll do it. Give me some time.


22 posted on 10/04/2005 8:12:32 PM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: doug from upland; 351 Cleveland; ajolympian2004; Dominick; Fatalis; Klickitat; ...

MALKIN PING!

(photo credit: FReeper cacique)

23 posted on 10/04/2005 8:13:14 PM PDT by cgk (Bennett: If we are surrounded by the trivial & vicious, it is all too easy to make our peace with it)
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To: doug from upland
Bild: ddp
Julia Jentsch als Sophie Scholl und Fabian Hinrichs als Hans Scholl in dem Spielfilm "Sophie Scholl - Die letzten Tage" von Marc Rothemund.
 
His Borther???

24 posted on 10/04/2005 8:13:58 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: doug from upland; mabelkitty
Speaking of Moussaoui :

* Zacarias Moussaoui : The co-pilot who died in the crash of Sen. Paul Wellstone's plane played a minor role in the case of Zacarias Moussaoui, the alleged Sept. 11 conspirator who briefly attended an Eagan, Minn., flight school.
Co-pilot Michael Guess, a 1997 graduate of the UND flight school, had performed administrative work at the Pan Am International Flight Academy last year [2001?] as he continued accumulating flying hours. There he met Moussaoui, the school's most infamous student. Two former Pan Am program managers who tipped the FBI to Moussaoui's suspicious behavior at the school in August 2001 told the Star Tribune that Guess inadvertently gave Moussaoui unattended access to a computer program on flying a 747 jumbo jet.-----------Source: http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/4379157.htm via 141 posted on 05/13/2004 6:11:18 PM PDT by FR's mabelkitty

SEPTEMBER 14, 2001 : (FEDERAL AGENT CALLS PAN AM ACADEMY AND INQUIRES ABOUT A COMPUTER DISK CONTAINING A 747 FLIGHT MANUAL FOUND NEXT TO MAOUSSAOUI'S LAPTOP ) Then, on about Sept. 14, an agent phoned a Pan Am official and asked about a computer disk that had been found next to Moussaoui's laptop and which contained a 747 flight manual,* several people familiar with the case said. The Pan Am official said it must be "proprietary information" that belonged to the school.
It was too late to prevent the attacks. But the flight manual would help agents get a standard search warrant so they could begin to investigate whether Moussaoui was connected to the hijackers. On the laptop's hard drive, they found voluminous information on crop-dusting planes -- aircraft that investigators fear could be used in a biological or chemical weapons attack. Alleged hijacker Atta made inquiries at a Florida crop-dusting firm early last year and again in the weeks before Sept. 11. ------ "FAA security took no action against Moussaoui," by Greg Gordon, Star Tribune , Published Jan 13, 2002

[* My note: Is this the flight manual mentioned earlier that the late congressman Wellstone's co-pilot Michael Guess inadvertantly gave to Moussaoui?]

25 posted on 10/04/2005 8:15:54 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: doug from upland

bttt


26 posted on 10/04/2005 8:17:20 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: PhiKapMom

filing


27 posted on 10/04/2005 8:17:22 PM PDT by stainlessbanner (Hurrah for the Foxhole!)
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To: doug from upland
Here is the rest of Malkin's coverage on this (to date)...


SUICIDE BOMBER IN OKLAHOMA
By Michelle Malkin   ·   October 02, 2005 01:38 PM

***scroll down for updates...dead man identified as 21-year-old engineering student Joel Henry Hinrichs***

Strange, disturbing news out of Norman, Oklahoma via Yahoo/AP:

One person was killed in an explosion near a packed football stadium at the University of Oklahoma on Saturday night in what authorities said appeared to be a suicide.

The blast, in a traffic circle about 100 yards from Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, could be heard by some in the crowd of 84,000, but university President David Boren said no one inside the stadium was ever in danger.

"We are apparently dealing with an individual suicide, which is under full investigation," Boren said in a statement. There was no information about the person who was killed, and no reports of any other injuries.

A police bomb squad detonated explosives found at the site of the blast. The area near the stadium was searched by bomb-sniffing dogs.

The Daily Oklahoman (reg required) adds:

A statement from OU president David Boren called the explosion "an individual suicide." The identity of the person killed was not known.

A second device was found in the area and detonated by police around 9:05 p.m.

The first explosion happened during the second quarter of Oklahoma's game against Kansas State. It was unclear late Saturday night if terrorism played a role in the explosions, said Sgt. Gary Robinson of the university police department.

"We had no idea of any threat this week," Robinson said.

Several hours after the first explosion, hazardous device teams continued to comb the area for additional explosives while more than 80,000 fans tried to leave the stadium. People were funneled to the east and south of the stadium, causing snarls in traffic.

According to Robinson, the first explosion occurred in a courtyard just west of George Lynn Cross Hall, the botany-microbiology building, which is located across Asp Ave. from the stadium. It was unclear where the second explosive device was found...

...After the first explosion, police brought in a robot designed to remove and detonate explosive devices. The hazardous device unit was already at the game as a routine precaution.

Am scouring reports/sources for any news of the bomber's identity. Stay tuned...

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Update: Curt at Flopping Aces has extensive coverage, a campus map, photos, witness reports, and questions.

Jim Hoft has more.

The Norman Transcript provides more details (hat tip: Laura Lee Donoho)

The investigation into an apparent suicide bombing on the University of Oklahoma campus Saturday evening moved to the nearby Parkview Apartment complex early today.

Law enforcement authorities evacuated about 35 residents of the university-owned complex this morning. The apartments are south of the Brandt Park Duck Pond on Lindsey Street and about half a mile from the blast site.

...Early Sunday, Norman police, OU police, FBI and other federal agents were combing the scene.
On Saturday, Boren said he ordered a search of the garage area near the stadium along with lower levels outside the stadium.
The suicide happened in or near the George Lynn Cross botany/microbiology building the oval’s east side.

Damage to the microbiology building or any other structure couldn’t be seen from the distant perimeter. Sgt. Gary Robinson of OUPD confirmed one death, but gave no further details on the person or whether anyone else was injured. He said detectives were unable to investigate the scene right away because other personnel needed time to thoroughly sweep the area for additional explosive devices.

“One fatality is all we know right now,” he said.

Student Keaton Fuchs of the cable television station TV4OU had a video camera at the stadium’s highest level. He turned toward the South Oval right after the explosion and saw a small amount of gray smoke rising from the botany/microbiology building.

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Update II: Stephen Spruiell, who had family members at the game, has the latest--including info on the identity of the suicide bomber. He links to the OU Daily, which corrects previous erroneous reports on that second device. Excerpt from the OU Daily's timeline:

4:05 p.m. — Joel Henry Hinrichs, 21, engineering junior and Triangle fraternity member, was identified as the individual killed in the bombing at a 4 p.m. press conference with Boren at Evans Hall.

4 p.m. — The FBI took over as the lead agency investigating the bombing Saturday during the OU football game against Kansas State. Three buses have been wiped down and sprayed, clearing the remains of the suicide bomber. The buses are still parked on the South Oval.

The scene is very calm right now. Children and former OU head football coach Barry Switzer were biking around the South Oval. A policeman is still stationed near a small 6-by-1 ft. roped-off area in front of G.L. Cross Hall, but all other areas that were blocked following the game are now open.

Catherine Bishop, vice president for Public Affairs, confirmed at 1:45 p.m. today that classes will still be held Monday.

More information will be available following a 4 p.m. press conference.

3: 15 p.m. — OU President David L. Boren released a second statement Sunday confirming that there was no second device. Early reports that there was a second device were incorrect. The second detonation was the bomb squad making sure there was no second device in the area.

OUDaily.com has also learned that as of 3:15 p.m. Sunday, class will be held Monday as scheduled. More information will be posted here as it becomes available.

Link to FBI statement here (PDF).

More on Hinrichs via KKTV:

A student telephone book lists Hinrichs with a permanent address in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

Hinrichs, a 2002 Wasson High School graduate, was killed when an explosive device detonated around eight p-m last night near Oklahoma Memorial Stadium, where more than 8400 people were watching the Oklahoma Sooners play the Kansas State in a Big 12 Conference game.

There were no other reports of injuries and OU President David Boren says spectators were never in danger.

Hinrich's father, Joel Henry Hinrichs Junior, says he and his son exchanged several e-mails in the last month and nothing seemed out the ordinary.

Jim Hartline, a blogger who studies at the school, checked out the scene and has some observations.

Joel Henry Hinrichs' fraternity, the Triangle Fraternity, has issued a statement here.

Update III: The Dallas Morning News profiles Hinrichs--a student with "a history of emotional problems."

28 posted on 10/04/2005 8:17:25 PM PDT by cgk (Bennett: If we are surrounded by the trivial & vicious, it is all too easy to make our peace with it)
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To: All

For anyone who has not followed the work of Jayna Davis and THE THIRD TERRORIST, there has been a coverup of the Iraqi connection to the OKC bombing. It is only a matter of time, but it will come out. Had it been properly investigated and all of the evidence presented, perhaps 9-11 could have been prevented. When this finally breaks wide open and Iraq's connection is shown, what we have done in Iraq will be totally justified for all the world to see.


29 posted on 10/04/2005 8:19:58 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: cgk

Good night ping, read later, thanks.


30 posted on 10/04/2005 8:20:54 PM PDT by Springman (Job hunting sucks, I'm depressed.)
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To: piasa
JULY 2000 : (NORMAN, OK : FUTURE 9/11 HIJACKERS MOHAMMED ATTA & MARWAN AL-SHEHHI TOUR AIRMAN FLIGHT SCHOOL) Another intriguing twist cited by Davis: Lead 9/11 hijackers Mohamed Atta and Marwan al-Shehhi toured the same Norman flight school in July 2000. According to MSNBC, Atta and al-Shehhi stayed overnight at the Sooner Hotel on the OU campus, where Airman students get a discount - but left without signing up.Jayna Davis Dissects Berg-Moussaoui Links http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2004/5/18/141347.shtml ^ | May 18, 2004
31 posted on 10/04/2005 8:23:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: doug from upland
When this finally breaks wide open and Iraq's connection is shown, what we have done in Iraq will be totally justified for all the world to see.

And for that reason it would never see the light of day, even if true.

32 posted on 10/04/2005 8:26:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: doug from upland

Fascinating. There's a LOT of details in that summary that I haven't seen before. I've read Ambrose Evans-Pritchard and Partin's report, as well as a number of other articles.

One detail that caught my eye is this one: "Trentadue has specifically requested FBI documents on the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and its director Morris Dees as well as MidWest Bank robber and FBI informant Sean Kenny. Trentadue’s motion details evidence showing that the FBI relied on SPLC’s informant Andreas Strassmeir and the US Army’s member, Sean Kenny, for advance knowledge of the OKC bombing."

I have a very low opinion of Morris Dees and the Southern Poverty Law Center, which looks to me like a Communist agitprop organization. But I had no idea that Strassmeier shuttled between Morris Dees's Apalachia and Elohim City.

I knew from Evans-Pritchard's book that there was a major problem with FBI "informants" who were, in fact, unrepentant terrorists. What this says is that there are still a lot of people in the FBI and the CIA (which ran Strassmeier) who don't want these facts to get out.


33 posted on 10/04/2005 8:27:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: doug from upland; fastattacksailor; swordfish71; broadsword; Nesher; Fred Nerks; jan in Colorado; ..
Good post, DFU

Here's the pic:

Malkin meets OKC Bomber PING!

34 posted on 10/04/2005 8:32:17 PM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: doug from upland; hispanarepublicana; PhiKapMom; oceanview; Lizarde; milford421; LibertyRocks; ...

Malkin is carrying this story too.....PING


35 posted on 10/04/2005 8:32:33 PM PDT by indcons (Senior Member, Tinfoil Hat Club)
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To: doug from upland

fer tomorrow..


36 posted on 10/04/2005 8:36:27 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Cicero

Right after OKC, the orders came down from Clinton that this would be domestic terrorism. He used OKC to save his presidency. Until 1998, the Clinton administration operated as if domestic terror was our greatest threat. We are still paying a big price for his eight years of failure.


37 posted on 10/04/2005 8:37:19 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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To: doug from upland

the buses were an early theory. the latest one seems to be that he tried to enter the stadium with the knapsack, but was turned away by security, he went to the bench to take the device out (perhaps to hide under his shirt or something) - and it went off. check the other "hot" thread on this now.


38 posted on 10/04/2005 8:38:01 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: All
Only one person can be responsible for this.








One guy, who has been a blight on a humanity for far too long.






Who, you ask?




Yep. You guessed it.

Frank Stallone.
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39 posted on 10/04/2005 8:39:40 PM PDT by My Right Foot
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To: indcons

Outstanding. Maybe she can get FNC to at least carry it.


40 posted on 10/04/2005 8:41:01 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: doug from upland
Doug, thank you for all that you do.

Could the coverup by Boren, MSM,Fox, and FBI be due to something as simple as not wanting to disrupt that part of the economy related to all of the football games, baseball games,other events with big arenas? How this might dampen the local economies because people do not want to attend these events? Is it for political reasons? Is it because the governments think we cannot adjust to these ideas? Israel does. Have you contacted Geraldo who broke the story real time within minutes after the explosion and then went silent? Who controls Geraldo to make him shut up? Is it to keep perceived threats of mosques from being taken care of by American citizens?

I have more questions, but what do you think. You are on top of this thing.

41 posted on 10/04/2005 8:41:07 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Texas Songwriter

As Doug's earlier long post points out, the FBI was involved up to the hilt in the OKC bombing, through various Muslim terrorist "informants."

That happened under clinton, but since these agents were guilty of complicity in aiding, abetting, and covering up serious crimes, and since they are still in the FBI, and in some cases have been awarded medals and promoted by FBI Director Sessions, it's not likely they are going to start telling the truth any time soon. Their own hides are involved.


42 posted on 10/04/2005 8:49:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: doug from upland
Regrettably, someday this all will break wide open with more bombings/deaths, and the media/government will be unable to contain it.

The standard 'no indication of terrorism' is getting to be the reverse of the boy who cried wolf.

9-11 would have been written off as a bad aircraft accident, except for that 2nd plane, and 3rd plane, and 4th plane. Those made it difficult to pass off another terrorist attack as just an accident.
43 posted on 10/04/2005 8:49:07 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: doug from upland

bump


44 posted on 10/04/2005 8:52:05 PM PDT by milford421
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To: badpacifist

That's right...but where are our detractors?


45 posted on 10/04/2005 8:53:11 PM PDT by milford421
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To: doug from upland; PhiKapMom
Transcription of pages 299-302 from The Third Terrorist by Jayna Davis, as requested by her:

The FBI arrested Murad in early 1995 for conspiring with reputed Iraqi intelligence operative Ramzi Yousef in "Project Bojinka," a thwarted plot to detonate bombs aboard 12 US airliners originating in the Philippines in a murderous rampage over the Pacific Ocean. While being interrogated, the ME (Middle Eastern) terrorist hinted at a future scheme (paradigm for the 9/11 strikes) in which Muslim fundamentalists would train at US flight schools to learn to hijack commercial jetliners. One plan involved the recruitment of suicide pilots to dive bomb the Virginia-based CIA headquarters aboard general aviation aircraft rigged with explosives.

After conducting a perfunctory investigation, Murad's far-fetched tale of unspeakable carnage to come dissolved into the file of "false" leads. The stratospheric intelligence failure would not fully sink in until the FBI retraced the domestic flight instruction of the 19 AQ executioners. Their aviation skills were not only made in the USA, but several were previously flagged as visa violators and suspected terrorists who melted through the so-called safety net of intelligence gathering.

Yet even in death, their soulless eyes proved inescapable as their photographs dominated the international airwaves. Three men in particularly instantly jogged the memory of the motel owner where Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols once met with their ME handlers.

"Jayna, I've toiled with coming forward with this, but I can't shake the image of their faces," Cactus owner Randy Christian said with timid sincerity. "I'm positive three of the 9/11 hijackers visited my motel a month before the attacks."

Twin Towers/Terrorist Motel Intersection

Just 4 days before the WTC disintegrated on live tv, Randy recounted his fantastic story. The self-styled ringleader Mohamed Atta, his dutiful sidekick Marwan Al-Shehhi, and the surviving would-be hijacker Zacarias Moussaoui entered the Cactus Motel lobby in early August 2001. The trio inquired about renting a room with a kitchenette, but the owner cordially explained there were no vacancies.

Acting as the group's decision maker, Atta sauntered across the room, standing an arm's length from the owner. "We're going to be attending flight school in Norman and would really like to stay at your motel because we have heard such good things about it," the slight framed man insisted as he broke into a broad smile.

Randy considered Atta's persistence quite peculiar gaiven the ample availability of discount motels that provided convenient proximity to the Norman aviation schools.

"Our motel is at least a 30 mile drive, one way. I'm sure ou will have no problem renting a room at a reasonable rate much closer," Randy graciously suggested. But Atta, conspicuously clad in a heavy leather flight jacket on a blistering hot summer day was not dissuaded. He gushed with compliments about the outstanding reputation of Randy'shotel. In hindsight, themen appointed to die in a few short weeks, intended to deliver yet another humiliating slap in the face to American law enforcement by signing theirnames to the register at the very motel that served as the staging grounds for their ME predecessors, as if to say, "Ignore us at your own peril."

Shortly after the WTC disaster, Randy reluctantly promised me, "I'm going to report this to the FBI. But given my past history with the Murrah Building attack, I don't expect they will want to hear from me, much less take my statement. Regardless, I know it's the right thing to do."

"Did anyone else witness the meeting?" I inquired.

"Yes. The desk clerk on duty that day remembers the arrival of 3 men who pressed for a discounted rate to rent a kitchenette, but he does not recall what they looked like," he explained.

As expected, Randy's recorded voice message at FBI headquarters in OKC was ignored for several months. However, federal investigators exhibited a fortuitous change of heart after one of my law enforcement sources pressured OKC Police Sergeant Jerry Flowers, a ranking member of the newly formed OKC Joint Terrorism Task Force, to check into Randy Christian's testimony. On December 19, 2001, Sgt. Flowers and an FBI agent debriefed Andy about-his unforgettable encounter with Aatta, Al-Shehhi and Moussaoui.

When Randy contacted me in September 2001, the international travels and movements of the 9/11 terrorists indie the US had not yet been reported. But the official indictment against suspected AQ operative, Zacarias Moussaoui would yield a windfall of eagerly awaited corroboration. The government's prosecutorial evidence trail established that Moussaoui remained in Oklahoma through August of 2001, the same time frame in which Atta and his terrorist comrades purportedly visited the Cactus Motel. Maussaoui arrived in the Sooner State in February to attend Airman FLight School in Norman. The training lasted until May, but the French citizen of Morroccan descent resided in Oklahoma through the summer months to receive a $14,000 transfer from train stations in Dusseldorf and Hamburg, Germany. Bin Laden chieftain, Ramzi Bin Al-Shibh, wired the funds to Massaoui on August 1 and 3, 2001.

FBI - Fumbling Bumbling Investigation

The July 2003 omnibus congressional reporting into pre-September 11 intelligence failures admonished the OKC FBI field office as a repeat offender in the maddening chain of missed clues. The thread to America's heartland unravels to August 16, 2001, and a pivotal opportunity squandered in the string of government blunders. Federal authorities detained and charged Zacarias Moussaoui for an expired visa, but immigration violations merely opened a legal gateway to make the arrest. Maussaoui, a flight student with no pilot's license, less than 50 hours in the cockpit of civil aircraft, and no instruction on sophisticated commercial jets, paid $6,800 cash to train on a Boeing 747 simulator. The Islamic fundamentalist expressed an "ego boosting" desire to learn to fly from Heathrow Airport in England to JFK Airport in New York.

Minnesota FBI agents were frantically seeking evidence to warrant logging on to the potential hijacker's computer hard drive. Urgency in this case could not be overstated. The OKC field office was commissioned to assist. On August 23, two agents assigned to the international terrorism squad were dispatched to Airman Flight School in Norman where Moussaoui previously attended, but it wasn't their first visit. In 1999, the Oklahoma field office made inquiries about Osama bin Laden's chief pilot who had received training at the same aviation facility. Unfortunately, that pertinent fact slipped the lead FBI agent's mind when conducting the Maussaoui probe, depriving the Minnesota field office of critical information in its quest to obtain a search warrant.

Congress violated yet another intelligence gaffe during its inquiry. In August 2001, when INS officials nabbed Moussaoui and his roommate, Hussein Al-Attas, a notorious individual attempted to post bond for Al-Attas. That individual had been "the subject of a full field FBI international terrorism investigation in the Oklahoma City Field Office." Apparently, this unnamed former or current Oklahoma resident had impressive terrorist credentials that included "Vice President of Overseas Operations and Recruiting for AL-Fatah" as well as membership in the Muslim Brotherhood. The FBI "person of interest" was depicted as a close associate of the Muslim cleric who reportedly administered spiritual guidance to two of the 9/11 hijackers. The Justice Department invoked the "national security" shield when refusing to confirm or deny if the Oklahoma City FBI probe into the Al-Fatah recruiter was still alive.

Cactus Connection to Al Qaeda Comrade

The trail of Oklahoma missteps may trace as far back as April 19, 1995. On October 11, 2001, the FBI arrested Mujahid Abdulqaadir Menepta of Norman, OK, as a material witness in connection with the terror campaign of 9/11, charges that were never proven. Federal authorities detained the 51 year old Menepta because of his close friendship with alleged conspirator, Moussaoui. The twosome socialized during Moussaoui's training at Airman Flight School. On an October 2, 2001, interview with the Daily Oklahoman, Menepta vehemently defended Moussaoui, calling him a "scapegoat."

"I saw him daily at the mosque. We'd eat together sometimes. I don't think he is a terrorist, Menepta said. "I understand terrorism quite well. I am a victim of terror, America's terror. I am a descendant of slaves." The Missouri native changed his name from Melvin Lattimore to Mujahid Menepta after converting to the Muslim faith in 1989. One year later, he traveled to Pakistan to study Islam.

The FBI confiscated 3 weapons and 600 rounds of ammunition during the October 2001 search of Menepta's Norman home. WWeeks later, the former felon pleaded guilty to illegal possession of firearms. But the ensuing courtroom drama made it abundantly clear that the weapons charges provided a means to keep Menepta in custody after federal investigators failed to tie the ex-convict to the 9/11 attacks.

According to the November 7, 2001 federal court testimony of ATF Agent Jeffrey Whitney, a government informant who characterized Menepta as "violent" surfaced within 24 hours of the 1995 Murrah Building bombing. The source told the FBI Menepta was a member of a radical Islamic group in Norman and St. Louis that spewed vitriol against the US and advocated destroying government targets, killing police officers, and committing terrorist acts. The informant also claimed he witnessed Menepta threatening to shoot any police officer who entered the prayer area of a St. Louis mosque where he worshipped.

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Next page, Cactus Motel manager Gary Hammerstein singled out a picture of Menepta as a guest at the hotel in the spring of 1993. Menepta was always buying 50 cent cups of coffee and paying with $50 and $100 bills.
46 posted on 10/04/2005 8:54:16 PM PDT by Peach (Go Yankees!)
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To: indcons; PhiKapMom; All

Thanks for the ping indcons, Malkin has been looking at this story for a couple of days now - I've always liked here ever since I read a column of hers a few years back. Michele has a good head on those shoulders of hers. (o;

I'm also glad the story is finally getting out even if it's in bits and pieces at this point. I was really afraid it would be squashed and the truth relegated to "Conspiracy Theories" seeing the opposition we were running up against the last few days when we were all brainstorming and speculating.

Just FYI, the last time I googled the story was starting to show up in different states around the country, but they are all running the same AP article about the father insisting his son had "no political motivations"... I hope the AP starts saying something or they will lose whatever credibility they have left - not that it's much.

I'm still working on a rather large summary of everything up till today. Perhaps it won't be needed now that more people are catching on, but I'll finish it anyway. It may take till tomorrow though.


47 posted on 10/04/2005 8:57:48 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: cgk

Very interesting..Thanks for the ping..


48 posted on 10/04/2005 8:58:41 PM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: LibertyRocks

*Michele should read Michelle... apologies to Ms. Malkin.


49 posted on 10/04/2005 8:58:49 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Cicero

Bingo. Those who covered up under Clinton are still there and still covering their own posteriors. The bad thing for them is that Jayna Davis is more than a pitbull. She is going to keep at it.


50 posted on 10/04/2005 8:59:07 PM PDT by doug from upland (Doug from Upland - FR troublemaker since 5/97)
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