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Islamic Official Says West Demonizes Islam
ap on Yahoo ^ | 10/4/05 | AP

Posted on 10/04/2005 8:19:06 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

STRASBOURG, France - A top Islamic official on Tuesday criticized the West for what he called "demonizing" Islam following the Sept. 11 attacks, warning against attributing individual crimes to an entire religion.

Even though the attacks were condemned by Muslims, "the majority in the West ... never paused for one second to look back and ask since when an act of individuals could be the reason to condemn one fifth of humanity," said Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, chairman of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the world's largest Muslim group.

Addressing the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, the continent's leading human rights watchdog, Ihsanoglu said Muslims have suffered from ethnic cleansing and massacres that have largely been ignored by the Western world.

"In recent years, war in Iraq without legitimacy gave one further jolt to the faith of Muslims in the efficacy of international order," Ihsanoglu said.

Speaking several hours after the European Union agreed to open membership talks with Muslim-oriented Turkey, Ihsanoglu said he believed the decision would lead to other Islamic states' following Turkey's example in improving human rights and democracy.

He also called on European countries to give Islam the same official recognition as is given to mainstream European religions.


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1 posted on 10/04/2005 8:19:07 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

And suicide bombers aren't helping Islam's image, either.


2 posted on 10/04/2005 8:20:50 PM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: NormsRevenge
He also called on European countries to give Islam the same official recognition as is given to mainstream European religions.

Maybe when Christian churches can get built in Saudi Arabia.

3 posted on 10/04/2005 8:21:27 PM PDT by Andyman (Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God.)
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To: NormsRevenge
He also called on European countries to give Islam the same official recognition as is given to mainstream European religions.

Is he going to call on Saudi Arabia to at least allow churches to be open? I guess not.

4 posted on 10/04/2005 8:22:19 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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To: Andyman

So he wants Islam to be ridiculed?


5 posted on 10/04/2005 8:22:25 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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To: NormsRevenge

gee , I wonder why....?


6 posted on 10/04/2005 8:23:30 PM PDT by injin
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To: NormsRevenge
OK Ayatollah.... YOU deal with the nutcases in your midst and we won't have to.

As for me, I support the policy of "Kill them all and let God (or Allah, if you prefer) sort them out.

I have neither the time or the inclination to sort out the average adherents of your Moon Rock Cult from the dangerous ones.
7 posted on 10/04/2005 8:24:17 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Terrorism is demonetizing Islam. Maybe if these hysterics spend even 1/100th as much time chasing their extremists as they do whining at US we might take them seriously. Until that time they are all just bunch of modern day Lord Haw Haws or Tokyo Roses spreading the propaganda of the Islamo fascists.
8 posted on 10/04/2005 8:25:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Why is so much of the "Conservative" media punditry stuck on stupid?)
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To: NormsRevenge
For its not fine raiment or stores of gold, silver and gems that bend our enemies to respect or support us; they are kept down solely by fear of our arms. Secondly, in other matters, as Cato says, mistakes can be corrected aftearwards; errors in war do not admit of amendment, because the penalty follows immediately upon the slip.
9 posted on 10/04/2005 8:25:32 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: NormsRevenge

And which groups were dancing in the streets after 9/11?


10 posted on 10/04/2005 8:26:07 PM PDT by onewhowatches
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To: NormsRevenge

Lets stop demonizing and start vaporizing Islam!


11 posted on 10/04/2005 8:26:16 PM PDT by claptrap (optional tag-line under reconsideration)
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To: NormsRevenge
Idiot islamic officials not only can say the greatest absurdities, but they regularly do.

For anyone with eyes and ears, however, in the real world islam daily demonizes itself!

12 posted on 10/04/2005 8:26:54 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: NormsRevenge

We don't demonize Islam; we demonize Islams demons.


13 posted on 10/04/2005 8:27:05 PM PDT by Rennes Templar ("The future ain't what it used to be".........Yogi Berra)
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To: NormsRevenge

I'd say they're doing a good job of it without our help.


14 posted on 10/04/2005 8:27:29 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: NormsRevenge
A top Islamic official.....

There is not such thing. Or, rather, they are all "top officials". Nobody is in charge. Which is by design.

Islam is a wacky "religion" where the followers leave their brains ouside the mosque*....

* The site that's linked above is not a joke site!

15 posted on 10/04/2005 8:29:04 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Don't get stuck on stupid - Lt. General Honore)
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To: NormsRevenge

We need that multiple choice quiz where the answer is always "Muslim extremists between the ages of 17 and 40"....


16 posted on 10/04/2005 8:29:59 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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To: NormsRevenge
Islam is about a moon god, not the God of Christianity and Judaism. So what's not to demonize about them worshiping false gods and blowing people up? What they've done with their women is also nothing to boast of.
17 posted on 10/04/2005 8:30:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge

He says the West demonizes Islam, but Islamic leaders like him won't condemn terrorism.


18 posted on 10/04/2005 8:32:33 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: NormsRevenge
"the majority in the West ... never paused for one second to look back and ask since when an act of individuals could be the reason to condemn one fifth of humanity,"

Don't see any folks from my religion going to blow up others who won't convert.

OK, so we believe in this big bang theory. When people, trains, cars, airplanes, boats, backpacks, trucks, vans, buildings blow themselves up...which "faith" do the exploders belong to?

19 posted on 10/04/2005 8:34:26 PM PDT by Johnny Crab (Who DAT says dem busses ain't good enough? They're not just FOR THE CHILDREN....)
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To: Rennes Templar
Who considers these two men of God?
20 posted on 10/04/2005 8:34:31 PM PDT by jmc1969
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To: NormsRevenge

Demons are in the eye of the beholder, or, demons are as demons do.


21 posted on 10/04/2005 8:37:53 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Flavius

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22 posted on 10/04/2005 8:39:38 PM PDT by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: NormsRevenge
He's Muslim AND he's French....


23 posted on 10/04/2005 8:44:19 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: NormsRevenge
"since when an act of individuals could be the reason to condemn one fifth of humanity"

Since that particular one fifth of humanity all rose up and cheered the obscene act, and not a damn one protested!

24 posted on 10/04/2005 8:44:54 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: onewhowatches
And which groups were dancing in the streets after 9/11?

It sure as hell wasn't Martha and The Vandellas.

25 posted on 10/04/2005 8:46:48 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree (Abortion is to family planning what bankruptcy is to financial planning.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Perhaps if muslims would start demonizing suicide bombers, they might have some credibility, until then they can STFU.


26 posted on 10/04/2005 8:49:29 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: de Buillion
Since that particular one fifth of humanity all rose up and cheered the obscene act, and not a damn one protested!

You're wrong! One did protest.

Then the rest of them hung him.

27 posted on 10/04/2005 8:49:47 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: jmc1969; Johnny Crab; pcottraux; A CA Guy; JoJo Gunn; dc-zoo; Rennes Templar; Publius6961; ...
behold the religion of peace...we don't need to demonize... only witness them...

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these are the the results of the Religion of Peace.... Allah Akhbar.... shamalama dingdong.

some call them islamo-terrorists... I like to call them what they should be...,"targets".

God Bless and pass the ammo.

28 posted on 10/04/2005 8:54:44 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: FreedomCalls
"You're wrong! One did protest. Then the rest of them hung him. "

You completely lost me with your reference to a BBC article about a Palestinian and Isrealis and Hamas that was dated Jan 2001. I was refering to 9/11/2001.

29 posted on 10/04/2005 9:02:01 PM PDT by de Buillion (Perspective: 1880 dead Heroes in 3 yr vs. 3589 abortions EVERY DAY , 1999, USA.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Somebody should tell this Hitler in a headscarf that most of America can't be fooled like the citizens of the Middle East.We see his religion as a racist plot that was put in place by a diddler who used it to rape and murder his neighbors.It is something that needs to be driven to the grave along with those who commit murder in its name.
30 posted on 10/04/2005 9:02:14 PM PDT by rdcorso (Cindy Sheehen,"The Death Of My Son Worked Out Really Great For Me".)
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To: NormsRevenge

When the majority of "one fifth of the world's population" is vocally aghast at suicide bombings. please notify us, Mr. Mullah. The silence is thundering.


31 posted on 10/04/2005 9:06:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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The only people I know of who demonize Islam (and rightly so) are Freepers. Most people are too PC to speak against "the great religion of peace."


32 posted on 10/04/2005 9:11:35 PM PDT by Tim Long (No, Christine Todd Whitman, it's not your party too.)
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To: SmithL
And suicide bombers aren't helping Islam's image, either.

Bombers don't kill people. Bombs do.

Ha, I was just bein' sarcastic but it backfired on me. Next on the horizon - I envision legislation that outlaws 'bombs on these premises'

33 posted on 10/04/2005 9:13:01 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (To the world you may be one person, but to one person you may be the world)
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To: NormsRevenge

Muslims demonize Islam.


34 posted on 10/04/2005 9:14:14 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NormsRevenge

"Islamic Official Says West Demonizes Islam"

Hey, is there a way we could find out how to
really do this?


35 posted on 10/04/2005 9:15:32 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: NormsRevenge

Is it possible to demonize something that is already demonic?


36 posted on 10/04/2005 9:17:41 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Aren't the "reality-based community" folks the same ones who insist there is no objective reality?)
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To: NormsRevenge

It's that beheading thing. If 1/5 of humanity marched in the streets and pointed these a$$h@3! out the problem would be over.


37 posted on 10/04/2005 9:30:35 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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To: NormsRevenge

The darkly cultish aspects of Muslims and Islamics' culture clearly projects them as fanatical, oppressive, brutal, and insecurely chauvinistic. Killing, e.g. family-honour killing of daughters and sisters, bespeaks of their irrational and inhuman solutions to conflict. People have the absolute right to demonize Muslims/Islamics who behave demonicly. Respect is earned. The Muslims/Islamics' theocratic leadership cannot demand respect if there nothing substantial to respect. They HATE and JUSTIFY murder of infidels and apostates. They provoke despise and invite banishment, and they do not inspire respect.

Disclaimer: Yes, I know there are wonderful individual muslim/islamic persons and familys.


38 posted on 10/04/2005 9:48:08 PM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valour!)
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To: de Buillion

Dude, it was a joke.


39 posted on 10/04/2005 10:12:15 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: NormsRevenge
"Muslims have suffered from ethnic cleansing and massacres that have largely been ignored by the Western world."

Can anyone actually recall where the Islamists were targets of massacres/cleansing? I thought it was the other way around in nearly every armed conflict happening today.
40 posted on 10/04/2005 10:12:39 PM PDT by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter (I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: NormsRevenge

All Muslims aren't terrorists, but all the terrorists were Muslims.

The demonization of Islam is something that the Muslims have to fix. Not us. The perception is the reality, particularly when most Muslims seem to give tacit approval to the terrorists by their lukewarm or nonexistent outcry against them. Doubly so when mullahs are routinely preaching against innocent "infidels" and mosques are considered safe havens and recruiting stations for Islamofascists.


41 posted on 10/04/2005 10:13:32 PM PDT by SpinyNorman (The ACLU empowers terrorists and criminals, weakens America, and degrades our society.)
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To: Dick Vomer

Again the religion of peace are marking things with a red x. I do hate that.


42 posted on 10/04/2005 10:27:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I only had to read these first words by this Islamo-Nazi...

"Even though the attacks were condemned by Muslims."

to know what the rest of his speech is. A lie.


43 posted on 10/04/2005 11:18:18 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: USF; Former Dodger; AmericanArchConservative; Fred Nerks; Dark Skies; FlowJo

"The West Demonizes Islam" Ping!


44 posted on 10/05/2005 12:14:51 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (Enjoy Freedom? Support Our Troops! Support their families! Support their mission!)
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To: JoJo Gunn; All
We need that multiple choice quiz

Since you asked for it...here it is...

MULTIPLE-CHOICE HISTORY TEST

These questions are based on actual historical events. A Number Two pencil is not required, but basic common sense is:

1.1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:

a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, Israeli athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:

a. Olga Korbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:

a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:

a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:

a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:

a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:

a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:

a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:

a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:

a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract the public from Bill's philandering
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed that day by:

a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12.In 2002 the United States led the liberation of Afghanistan from:

a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:

a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

14. In May 2004, Nicholas Berg, an American working in Iraq, was kidnapped and then murdered by having his throat cut by:

a. The Pope
b. French President Jacques Chirac
c. Ryan Seacrest of 'American Idol'
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

45 posted on 10/05/2005 12:15:47 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (Enjoy Freedom? Support Our Troops! Support their families! Support their mission!)
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To: NormsRevenge; SmithL; jan in Colorado; sheik yerbouty; Bombardier
Memo from Virginia to Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu:



allhu fubar, moonbat Ihsanoglu!
46 posted on 10/05/2005 5:04:00 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Not a nickel, not a dime, no more money for Hamastine!)
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To: NormsRevenge
"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faiths, but to become dominant."
--------- --Omas Ahmad, Cofounder of CAIR

47 posted on 10/05/2005 5:10:38 AM PDT by yoe
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To: broadsword; All
He also called on European countries to give Islam the same official recognition as is given to mainstream European religions.

Official recognition? I don't think so!

Following is a post by Broadsword from 1/29/2005

Broadsword's 20 questions about Islam

Why is the religion of peace directly responsible for 28 out of the 30 violent conflicts raging in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of chattel slavery in the world today?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the vast majority of terrorism in the 20th and 21st Centuries?

Why are the practitioners of the religion of peace routinely slaughtering unarmed practitioners of every other religion wherever they can get away with it?

Why does the religion of peace call for the murder of anyone who converts from the religion of peace to another religion?

Why do so many of the believers of the religion of peace look forward to the opportunity to rape 72 virgins in heaven if they die while killing innocent women and children of other religions? Is it a god they worship, or just sex? If a god, then shouldn't’t heaven have more to do with him than their libidos?

Why do the leaders of the religion of peace routinely issue fatwas (death warrants) for anybody who questions their holy book of peace and their holy prophet of peace?

Why is the religion of peace responsible for the sexual mutilation of millions of little girls and the savage oppression of women?

Why did millions of the practitioners of the religion of peace laugh, cheer and dance in the street because 3,000 innocent men, women and children were murdered by seventeen men who supposedly “hijacked” the religion of peace? And why don’t the real practitioners of the religion of peace condemn the supposed “hijackers” of their religion? Why the deafening silence? Why the smiles? Why the cheers and high fives?

Perhaps I just don’t understand this whole PEACE thing. Did the definition of the word change, or is somebody just blowing a lot of smoke?

Even though the attacks were condemned by Muslims, "the majority in the West ... never paused for one second to look back and ask since when an act of individuals could be the reason to condemn one fifth of humanity," said Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, chairman of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, the world's largest Muslim group."

Hmmmm...I didn't see many condemning the attacks...

just the opposite!

Islam condemns itself

48 posted on 10/05/2005 7:17:42 AM PDT by jan in Colorado (Enjoy Freedom? Support Our Troops! Support their families! Support their mission!)
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To: NormsRevenge

They keep letting that 'illigetimate war in Iraq' line slip in there. Keep repeating a lie enough and it will be taken as truth.


49 posted on 10/05/2005 7:19:29 AM PDT by bk1000 (A clear conscience is a sure sign of a poor memory)
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To: NormsRevenge
As Joe Strummer once said, "Cut the crap."
50 posted on 10/05/2005 7:23:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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