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"WE Must Closely Examine Harriett Miers' Suitability" -- Ted Kennedy
Clamshell Lounge, Hyannisport, MA ^ | 10/5/05 | Kennedy Intern "Boopsie"

Posted on 10/05/2005 5:00:30 PM PDT by pabianice

Dear Friend,

On Monday, we learned that the President nominated White House Counsel Harriet Miers--a long-time adviser and Bush loyalist--to replace Sandra Day O'Connor on the United States Supreme Court.

Ms. Miers's record is little known so far, because she's largely served behind the scenes. What leaps out is her loyalty to President Bush beginning with his years as Governor of Texas. We know nothing about her loyalty to the rule of law

and the Constitution, or her ability to do the job of Associate Justice on the Supreme Court.

It's clear that Mr. Bush is fond of her work: he's appointed her to nearly every government position she's ever had. And apparently she likes her boss, having told a former Bush speechwriter that the "[P]resident was the most brilliant man she had ever met."

But many other staunch supporters of the President are alarmed by his nomination, citing a lack of experience and substance. Very few, it seems, are comfortable with the current case for Ms. Miers's confirmation.

The Senate needs more information if we are to do our job of reviewing and voting on such an important nomination, as required by the Constitution. We cannot advise in this process--much less consent--if President Bush refuses to disclose the very information he relied on in his decision to nominate Ms. Miers. I've called on President Bush to release any memoranda and files relating to Ms. Miers--and give the American people the same ability he had to consider her qualifications.

A decision of this magnitude cannot be made simply on his say-so.

From now on, your participation will be critical. As the process moves forward, all of us need to stand fast in our demand for the caliber of information needed for any Supreme Court nominee.

Let's work together to see that any replacement for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor meets the impressive standard she set.

Please keep in touch with me at TedKennedy.com, and thank you for your commitment.

Sincerely,

Senator Edward M. Kennedy


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 109th; bloviator; drunk; enemywithin; killer; lefty; maryjo; miers; scotus; tedkennedy
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1 posted on 10/05/2005 5:00:30 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

The skipper of the SS-Oldsmobile has no place judging anyone for anything.


2 posted on 10/05/2005 5:01:43 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Liberals - Stuck on Stupid.)
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To: pabianice

That's like the town drunk speaking out against the Mayor...


3 posted on 10/05/2005 5:02:12 PM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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To: pabianice

Isn't it time somebody examined Lard Ass's suitability???


4 posted on 10/05/2005 5:02:26 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher (The Great Ronald Reagan & John Paul II - Heaven's Dream Team!)
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To: pabianice

Blah, blah, blah.

Are you talking to me, Teddy?


5 posted on 10/05/2005 5:02:37 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: pabianice

DISCLAIMER: This photograph is FAKE BUT ACCURATE.

6 posted on 10/05/2005 5:02:50 PM PDT by Maceman (Fake But Accurate)
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To: pabianice

Somebody call 911. I have just laughed myself to death.


7 posted on 10/05/2005 5:02:50 PM PDT by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: pabianice

The um er uh um er Seniah Senatah from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts votes nay on this uh uh er uh nominee as she can swim.


8 posted on 10/05/2005 5:04:41 PM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal=in need of therapy but would rather ruin the lives of those less fortunate to feel good.)
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To: Keith in Iowa
The skipper of the SS-Oldsmobile

Mmm, I like that. Says so much in so few words.

9 posted on 10/05/2005 5:05:05 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: pabianice
SOMEBODY CALL GREENPEACE!! HE'S TRYING TO BEACH HIMSELF AGAIN!!!
10 posted on 10/05/2005 5:05:37 PM PDT by llevrok (Failure is the condiment that gives success its flavor. - Truman Capote)
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To: pabianice

In a real and just world, this pig-faced sack-of-sh!t felon wouldn't even be allowed a vote in a general election. And he gets to sit on the Judiciary Committee?


11 posted on 10/05/2005 5:06:17 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Maceman
DISCLAIMER: This photograph is FAKE BUT ACCURATE.

lol

12 posted on 10/05/2005 5:06:51 PM PDT by Huck ("Sometimes you're better off not knowing how much you've been had." --Bob Dylan)
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To: pabianice

Oh yeah, and one other thing Teddy. Are you even allowed to use the word "loyalty"? I'm surprised you haven't been struck by lightning when uttering it.


13 posted on 10/05/2005 5:07:08 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there.)
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To: pabianice

Heh. You a veddy bad man.


14 posted on 10/05/2005 5:07:31 PM PDT by RichInOC ("The coffee is strong at Cafe du Monde, the doughnuts are too hot to touch..." Save the Big Greasy!)
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To: pabianice

Makes you just want to puke.

If it wasnt for family money he couldnt hold down a job cleaning porta potties.

Just getting starting on the "Swimmer" but gotta watch my blood pressure.


15 posted on 10/05/2005 5:09:19 PM PDT by 76834 (There's nothing wrong with sobriety in moderation.)
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To: pabianice

Republicans who try to undermine the Miers nomination better understand that they are attacking a pro-life born again Christian. We stick together, and you are either with us or you are with Ted Kennedy.


16 posted on 10/05/2005 5:09:39 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: pabianice

A brilliant presentation!


17 posted on 10/05/2005 5:09:47 PM PDT by Cagey (There are more planes in the ocean than submarines in the sky)
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To: Keith in Iowa
Sorry, but the people of Massachusetts, ever eager to evict this drunken fatso from their state and thereby preserve the lives of their young women, have sent him to the Senate. As a Senator in the majority and on the Judiciary Committee, Kennedy has disproportionate power to decide whether Miers reaches the Supreme Court. Remember, Miers needs 61 affirmative votes to pass, including at least six non-Republicans (and I doubt that she'll get every Republican votes). Senator Kennedy and his partisans control Miers's destiny; Mary Jo Kopechne remains unavailable for comment, having perished after Teddy left her in a car that he parked inverted in a Massachusetts tidal marsh after a drunken party in the summer of 1969.
18 posted on 10/05/2005 5:12:03 PM PDT by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [D] comprises fewer than the minority [R])
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To: pabianice
Let's work together to see that any replacement for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor meets the impressive standard she set.

I know SCOTUS confirmations were much different back when O'Connor was nominated, but I think it would be fascinating to read what Swimmer said about O'Connor was first put up by President Reagan. Or if there is any quote in the interim 20 years were he was "impressed" with her.

Maybe we can find some of his praise of her "impressive standards" that she set during 2000 Bush v. Gore.

19 posted on 10/05/2005 5:13:32 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: pabianice

Send this to his office. Let' see how he responds.


20 posted on 10/05/2005 5:13:44 PM PDT by tarzantheapeman (Cindy and the Cranks - Moonbats Gone Wild!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

> The skipper of the SS-Oldsmobile has no place judging anyone for anything.

Good one, little buddy.


21 posted on 10/05/2005 5:13:58 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: XEHRpa

He's my "Teddy Bare".


22 posted on 10/05/2005 5:16:14 PM PDT by Broker (Good BooK)
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To: pabianice
... Please keep in touch with me at TedKennedy.com, and thank you for your commitment. Gotta go ... bartender just announced LAST CALL!
23 posted on 10/05/2005 5:17:54 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: pabianice

OMG, you're killing me! I can't stop laughing. I have to donate based on this post alone.


24 posted on 10/05/2005 5:20:00 PM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: tarzantheapeman; pabianice

Agreed, send it back to him! Since he seems to consider you a "Dear Friend", and all, I'm sure he'd like it! What are friends for? </:-)


26 posted on 10/05/2005 5:30:26 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (I support President Bush, the war on terror, and our brave men & women in the military!)
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To: pabianice

We must examine TeddyK's suitability to examine Miers suitability.


27 posted on 10/05/2005 5:37:35 PM PDT by JustAnotherOkie
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To: dufekin

Miers only needs 51 votes, although in the event of a filibuster I'd like to see her nomination pulled and have Brown or Owen submitted. THEN we'd be on good footing to get one of the preferred candidates in AND to go nuclear. Unfortunatel, the Dems aren't THAT stupid.


28 posted on 10/05/2005 5:39:03 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Mindless Bush bashers are just as bad as, if not worse than, mindless Bushbots.)
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To: pabianice
Let's work together to see that any replacement for Justice Sandra Day O'Connor meets the impressive standard she set.

....and then vote against her no matter what!

29 posted on 10/05/2005 5:39:14 PM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: RockinRight
That's like the town drunk speaking out against the Mayor...

At least Otis was likeable.

31 posted on 10/05/2005 5:45:29 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: pabianice

Gotta make sure she doesn't have any skeletons in her car, er, closet.


32 posted on 10/05/2005 5:46:08 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: pabianice
"WE Must Closely Examine Harriett Miers' Suitability" -- Ted Kennedy

Well, she's not a waitress or a bottle of Vodka so I guess she doesn't qualify.

Ring! Ring!

Hello, who, hold on....

Teddy, Mark Furman is on the line, something about reopening an investigation at some bridge, he says you know all about it.

Never mind, he said something about getting all the Kennedy rats and hung up laughing.
33 posted on 10/05/2005 5:53:19 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (It was a village of idiots that raised Hillary to Senator status.)
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To: pabianice

How about Ted Kennedy's buoyancy.


34 posted on 10/05/2005 5:53:49 PM PDT by citizencon
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To: WinOne4TheGipper
Miers needs 61 votes (a bare majority in Senatorial arithmetic) for confirmation; 51 to 60 votes, termed a "filibuster," rejects the nomination but allows for a reconsideration at a later date. The Senate in its infinite wisdom already rejected both Janice Rogers Brown and Priscilla Owen for lesser offices, and I highly doubt that they would prove acceptable.

Going "nuclear"--declaring a "filibuster" to be a majority affirmation rather than a rejection with the possibility to reconsider--requires a two-thirds vote and itself can be filibustered. If implemented as a rules clarification by the President of the Senate, a majority of Senators would reject it, probably outright without possibility of reconsideration.

Remember that the RINOs effectively control the minority Republican caucus, especially given the leadership disarray with minority leader Bill Frist in jail for insider trading and other corruption. Harry Reid and Robert C. Byrd soon will appoint a new leader to impose upon the minority, probably Lincoln Chafee, Jim Jeffords, or perhaps John McCain, although I doubt that they'll go that close to the conservative fringe of the RINO league.

I do not foresee Harriet Miers on the Court; the Senate almost certainly will reject her and compel the President to select a more definitively liberal, experienced nominee like Hillary Clinton.
35 posted on 10/05/2005 5:56:55 PM PDT by dufekin (US Senate: the only place where the majority [D] comprises fewer than the minority [R])
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To: pabianice

Since term limits are apparantly out of the question, we need Senators to face a national up/down vote on their performance every 10 years. Up, he can run for another term; down and he starts packing his bags to get out during the next election cycle. How fair is it of Massatwoschitz voters to foist a murder and an Marxist traitor on the rest of the country for 30 or 40+ years? (Or West Virginia and Sheets/Rockefeller, New York and Shumer/Clinton, California and Boxer/Feinswine, Washington and Murray/Can'tdo... you get the picture).


36 posted on 10/05/2005 5:57:30 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: advance_copy
We stick together, and you are either with us or you are with Ted Kennedy.

Yes, those that have objections are aligned with Ted Kennedy. I've encountered this attitude before. In the Democrat Party. Shut up, support the Partyline, or else. This explains why the "red state" Dem Senators are too afraid to do the right thing and have kept the filibuster active as an option and, in part, why "stealth" candidacies are pushed on Republicans. Yet you advocate this same stifling of opinion? From my vantage point this rigid approach drove people from the Democrat party and is one reason they are now the minority Party.

Republicans who try to undermine the Miers nomination better understand that they are attacking a pro-life born again Christian.

People infering she is a lesbian because she is single are attacking her. People raising reasonable arguments that others were more qualified, and that we do not have much of anything to base her aproach to the Constitution on, are not "attacking Ms. Miers. They are respectfully dissenting, which is a Constitutional right, a right of this board, and a right of any member of the Conservative movement or Republican Party.

Kennedy's statements mean nothing to me. Being attacked for dissent and told I am in alliance with Kennedy for that dissent does mean soemthing to me, and I don't respect those engaging in it anymore than I respect those who would label someone "Bushbot".

And, for the record, few are operating with intent of undermining her nomination. If I were undermining her position, for example, I would not be here. I would be in direct communication with washington 24/7. The extent of my communication to them was one return E-Mail declining to support Miers based on what I know of her to date. I am nor more of George Will's frame of mind to push for withdrawal of the nomination, than I am of the mind I should be silent in my opinion of this choice.

37 posted on 10/05/2005 6:09:17 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: pabianice

He has to "closely examine" it because, anytime after splashing Chivas on the cornflakes at breakfast, he's seeing double.


38 posted on 10/05/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by Kiss Me Hardy
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No offense, I think you're a bit confused. It takes only a majority of 51 of 100 senators to be confirmed. That's the way it'd always been until the Dems moved the goalposts to 60 with the filibuster. The nuclear option needed only a bare majority to implement, also, which is why it could have even been considered. It would have removed the filibuster option for judicial nominees, thus making sure the Dems had nothing to obstruct with.

Part of the reason Myers was even nominated was the Gang of 14 deal. If we didn't have that, we'd already be nuclear and Bush could nominate whoever he wanted. As it is, half of the Dem caucus voted for Roberts and they would be all over the place claiming that as justification for blocking most of the preferred candidates for the current vacancy.


39 posted on 10/05/2005 6:10:35 PM PDT by WinOne4TheGipper (Mindless Bush bashers are just as bad as, if not worse than, mindless Bushbots.)
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To: pabianice

bttt


40 posted on 10/05/2005 6:16:14 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: pabianice

Very good.


41 posted on 10/05/2005 6:19:05 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: pabianice

Has teddy ever seen a skirt he didn't want to "closely examine" ?


42 posted on 10/05/2005 6:26:17 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: pabianice
Let her testify from an Oldsmobile. Ted won't show up till several hours later.
43 posted on 10/05/2005 6:32:39 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (If Osama Was A Piece Of Ass - Clinton Would Have Nailed Him)
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Ted Kennedy: "We as a great nation uh....ahh..... ah...um....duh.... must determine whether this nominee can rival the great sterling standard in character I have displayed ever since my undergraduate and law school days. In particular, before voting on this nominee we must know how often she cheated in college and law school, whether she has left any innocent victims to drown in her car while engaging in obstruction of justice about it, how often she likes to slander her opponents, and whether she knows her Dasch-hole from a hole in the wall. Until the President provides information that will allow the Senate to answer these important questions, we are unable to properly consider this nomination."


44 posted on 10/05/2005 6:48:17 PM PDT by Enchante (Mary Mapes, Dan Rather: so proud to be genuine FRAUDcasters!)
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WE Must Closely Examine Harriett Miers' Suitability" -- Ted Kennedy

WEEEEEL, I think I like Bill Bennetts answer I heard on FoxNews the other night. (Paraphrasing)"Ted Kennedy needs to keep his mouth shut. Anyone who drowns a young woman has no ability to judge other people".


45 posted on 10/05/2005 7:00:53 PM PDT by contrarian (Contrarian....well, I just have my own way of thinkin..)
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46 posted on 10/05/2005 7:04:36 PM PDT by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: Soul Seeker

I completely concur that opposition to the Miers nomination varies in intensity. Coulter wrote, "Bush may as well appoint his chauffeur head of NASA as put Miers on the Supreme Court." Now, that is an attack. Others may be more tame in their objections, but there is always a low level "attack", even when they say someone else is "more qualified".

But no matter the level of vitriol in their opposition, what do they think they will accomplish? Do they think the President is going to say, "Oh, you mean there is someone else you wanted? OK, I'll withdraw the nomination." That will not happen, period.

Do they think that enough conservative Senators will rebel so that the nomination will be defeated? The possibility is remote, but I'll tell you what would happen then. The next nominee wouldn't be Brown or Luttig. It would be a liberal like Callahan, and there would be plenty of Democrats who would ensure confirmation.

Miers is a conservative. This has become plain since she was nominated. Conservatives should not oppose the nomination of conservatives to the court. There are enough liberals who will do that.


47 posted on 10/05/2005 7:12:43 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: advance_copy
Ann Coulter went on record with the Roberts nomination that she was at "war" with the administration. Ann Coulter has repeatedly attacked Karl Rove, especially following G.W.B.'s re-election. Ann Coulter's opinion means absolutely nothing to me. She does not like this President, she does not like this administration, and she takes a certain delight in making waves attracting attention to herself by being in opposition to this administration.

Pat Buchanon has no credibility, certainly, he has demanded the President's impeachment.

Farah makes Pat Buchanon look sane.

I associate myself with none of these people.

Nor do I associate myself with the George Will's of the world. I call into question his judgment, and have for some time especially in regard to the war. I certainly think this man went well over the line in his shot at the President in his column. I disagree with this nomination, but I don't withdraw my support for the President because of this disagreement.

but there is always a low level "attack", even when they say someone else is "more qualified".

Then here you and I would separate because I find this an undeniable truth, not an attack, and is why I have remarked so and I object to its classification as such. There is no intent of harm implicit in this statement. I will grant it is something that could be debated, but it is not an attack. Just as it is not an attack to state her understanding and approach to the Constitution is in doubt. If not in doubt, the president would not be requesting the base trust him.

I disagree that the President would retaliate with a left candidate if Miers were withdrawn, but no, it is not my intention she withdraw. I actually think after committing himself to her as he has, it would be more damaging not to shoulder this through. I have no intent to damage the President and will not call for withdrawal.

My intent is to, however, be free to state I am disappointed in this selection. Instead, I have been met with opposition to voicing this dissent. And I would advance the seeming relunctance of many to allow this disappointment to be voiced has resulted in stronger voiced dissent. Calling people names or telling them to be quiet does nothing but put anyone's back up, no one appreciates that lack of respect especially when they are respectful in dissent and have been very loyal to this President. Likewise, I understand why those content in the nomination would have their back up by some of the inane statements that have been made from the other end.

It is leading to hurt feelings, more disappointment, and a building anger. Not at this president, but between members of the movement. Debate within the movement can be healthy. Namecalling is not.

As to her being a conservative, she is apparently conservative on some known issues. But you've been on this board long enough to know even conservatives have disagreements. She may be conservative, ex. on abortion and 2A, but that doesn't follow she is straight down the line conservative in all respects. I've never known anyone to be. Nor has conservatism ever been a criteria on my part. I'm not interested in a "yes" vote. Never have been. I'm more interested in her thoughts on the law and Constitution, and I've scant answers to these questions at this time.

But, I do think she'll be confirmed and I don't think she'll intentionally set out to mimic Souter or O'Connor. But that doesn't follow I must believe the president made the best decision for the Court.

48 posted on 10/05/2005 7:45:47 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Barbour/Honore in '08)
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To: Soul Seeker
Lovely post and it certainly gives a voice to those of us who are scratching our heads on this one. Coulter has planted her flag in the ground: Conservative first, Bush Supporter second.

It may not be fair to call Meirs supporters Bush Bots (and goodness knows that supporting Bush has never been more important), but we strongly reserve the right to challenge his positions and this nomination.

OTOH, the Left thinks this has divided us because we are openly disagreeing. They do this at their peril.

Unlike their "my way or the highway" hate/guilt driven thought, they don't understand that conservatives can disagree (at times STRENUOUSLY) and still respect each other and try, in each individual's way, to adhere to what we believe to be a true value system. I am deeply concerned about what Roberts will do on the Assisted Suicide issue. If he says that Fed trumps State's rights then tear up the 10th amendment (and the 4th).

Miers is a strange and troubling decision by Bush. It doesn't mean I won't support my President in every way I can.

49 posted on 10/05/2005 7:58:09 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Durka Durka Durka. Muhammed Jihad Durka.)
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To: Soul Seeker

I should withdraw my characterization of your objection to Miers as an attack. While I don't agree with it, your expression of opposition has been reasonable. Still, I think we agree that the divisive attacks on Miers by the likes of Will, Buchanan, Farah, and Coulter can have no positive affect.


50 posted on 10/05/2005 8:02:10 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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