Skip to comments.OKC Ch 9:OU Suicide Bomber Attempted Stadium Entry/5 Others Involved, Ticket to Algeria Found
Posted on 10/05/2005 6:03:56 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
3 videos on the right-hand video listing. Summary:
Hinrichs spent time in the same Norman mosque as Moussaui
Ticket to Algeria was found linking back to his Pakistani roommate
5 others possibly involved
Hinrichs attempted to enter the stadium and may have had a ticket to the game
Given the lack of accurate info being released, and the amount of spin being put on what is released, who knows where the roommate is.
Sorry my bad...Not much in the news here either. There is an OU Bombing keyword on the main window that can catch you up.
Wow! First I've read of the Spartan connection with 9/11 terrorists. I can say, from first-hand experience, that in 1981, 1982 and 1983 Spartan had a sizeable Muslim student population; and they were catered to - specifically, the Muslim students had an area outside the Spartan hangars that was for them to do their Mecca praying. And they also made use of the restrooms for foot-washing. The government of some Muslim country/s (If I think about it long enough, I will recall which Arab/Muslim governments) were paying Spartan to train these men as mechanics and avionics techs. (I don't recall if they had flight school at the time, but they probably did) Spartan really catered to those students and their "needs", much to the disgust of the (black, white and hispanic) American students, who were cut no slack.
It could be something like that. I'm beginning to think everytime I hear the phrase, "for reasons of national security," it really means, "for reasons of the failure of national security."
Hi, PhiKapMom. I can't thank you enough for all of the information you have provided. God love ya, be safe, and thanks for taking the time to keep us all informed. :) chena
I agree with your "Reason # 1". It's definitely looking like they've had this guy under surveillance for a while.
Tinfoil hat or not, I think the FBI put a lid on this because they are still in the process of an investigation/arrests.
I'm sure you know that Cobra's buddy, hoboken109, has received the bannie. teehee
I heard it alledged today that it operating out of a copy store and the mosque and has been for sometime. You would have thought have 9-11 they would have shut it down.
But then Oklahoma doesn't have an active terrorist fighting organization. Norman cops do not have the money to fund anything dealing with terrorism. Our RAT sleeps a lot, do-nothing Governor Henry has hidden under the bed covers on this one and anything else dealing with terrorism or any other controvery.
Well we did have some gubmint shills back then.
the cell members know who they are already, what would the MSM be tipping them to?
there wasn't any civil strife against US muslims after 9/11 - why would a failed attack trigger this?
the sad truth is - that the permanent federal government beauracracy only gets off its a** when its pressured to do so - and without the pressure of media attention, if they can sweep this under the rug, they will. where will this story be two weeks from now if current trends continue?
You are in a dream world if you think that the 'authorities' can still have any control over the MSM, local or national.
Well, I'm sure he was just a real quiet kid who always kept to himself. No one ever imagined he'd do anything like this. (insert video of fat, toothless neighbor here)
"But at some point the story just has to be told in order for citizens to be alert and aware of what has happened."
I'm now fairly certain that Hinrichs was under surveillance the entire time. Maybe TMI would jeopardize ongoing operations to get his handlers and maybe even further upstream?
Maybe somebody should save those videos, in case they "disappear" from the website? I am technology-challenged and can't figure out how to save these videos. (If it's not glaringly obvious - I can't figure it out.)
Or used the wiretapping and surveillence provisions of the Patriot Act to monitor everything happening there.
Using the "Norman Bombing" keyword should bring up all the threads on this topic. FReepers are using this as a common keyword......just thought you might want to know.
As I recall, they had Atta and released him after questioning also.....I'm probably late with this, sure it's been mentioned somewhere else along the way...just started reading the thread.
They said on the local radio news, here in the Dallas area, that they won't be increasing security for the Texas/OU game this weekend...
I guess they figure the bombers AREN'T Oklahoma Football team groupies...just Oklahoma students??!!! /s
.....Why is this not the subject of every newscast, 24 hours per day?.......
Com'on! It's Ramadamadingdong.
We wouldn't want to cast dispersions upon or towel headed nutcase brethen on their puke fasting period, would we???
they've had him under surveillance for a while? except during the time he was building and assembling the bomb, and heading towards the stadium to use it.
it should be (as you imply)
I read that info too!!
You went to the expense to buy season tickets and they write you "nag-mail"?
That explains Boren's lies, though (and when you forcefully say something you don't know to be true, ala "it's a lone disturbed kid" in order to propagandize, that is clearly a lie, and he is a liar). It's the bottom line: "a packed stadium looks good and means more $$$ to me".
I think it was more than that.
Given the fact that an LEO saw him trying to purchase amm. nitrate and got his plates, I am sure this kid was under surveillance. They probably had at least a little bit of info on his plans, and increased security accordingly.
PKM said they had bomb sniffing dogs in the stadium before the game.
They don't use them doggies for moonshine.
Although it would be convenient to blame the "leftists in the media" for this event not being reported in the MSM, I highly doubt that is the reason. IMHO, I think the fact that this story hasn't been given aire time is because of an order by the Homeland Security, etc. I can understand why, but that "why" is exactly why I am seriously concerned about what happened at OU. If this was truly nothing more than some "personal suicide", it wouldn't require this sort of silence.
And George Allen
Trust me, yes they do. If it involves national security. Any thing else they may print is allowed and meaningless as intel. Scandals, sure, why not no problem but security, they will spike it if asked.
I feel for you. Ive tried to fight a wrong locally here for the past year. When those in charge dont want to hear you, they just dont. I wish those of you in that stadium had some legal recourse. Those folks down in NO during Katrina sure had recourse and the attention of the media.
I spoke to a friend from OU today. She said the problem OU has is the draw of MEs because of the PetroEng school. She seemed very focused that that program is a core issue in this situation.
Well... there goes dinner.
That's where the 72 virgins and the little boys come in.
I have no political investment in my opinion of Boren but I certainly think he is correct in labeling him a "disturbed individual".
The silence has been deafening! And THAT fact disturbs my peace of mind more than anything else.
See you caught up... how have you been?
" They probably had at least a little bit of info on his plans, and increased security accordingly."
I believe that too, but PhiKapMom's posts convinced me that the tighter entry search during halftime was really what tripped him up, as far as actually getting in.
I don't think he was in control of detonation myself.
I'm starting to feel like bait. We keep letting the islamderthals into our country and now they're recruiting our own and all some folks can say is "national security" over and over.
Next years greencard lottery excludes many of our friendly nations like poland but includes a laundry list of muslim nations. I guess it's all for national security but frankly the bait gets hit sometimes.
Perhaps. But I would think it is, if anything, their own political correctness that makes them blind to anything that points to the middle east or Islam. They think they'd just be fueling the pro-U.S. pro-war-on-terror crowd if they admit that sometimes, in fact, terrorists really ~do~ come from the middle east.
As it is... they would LOVE it if the government would try to shut them up. It would make for their biggest headlines ever.
But this story remains really interesting, and curious on lots of levels. Some of it has yet to make any sense at all. If it was AQ, they're definitely slipping. This would then look like a mistake. The bomb was detonated early. Really clumsy. You'd think they'd try something bigger, like multiple hits.
Maybe they did, and this was the only one we got at the last minute.
There's a lot of maybe's. If it was a loner, wacko sort of fellow... it could look like this too. Tried his hand at bombmaking and made a really simple mistake too early in his career.
More fyi ping
Hey what do they promise the female bombers? 72 virgin men? yikes!
Like the video of WJC laughing at Ron Browns funeral untill he saw himself being filmed at went into tears pronto. Had someone not saved it you would never had seen it.
Got that right and I am a donor! If Boren had come out and said this is an active investigation and I cannot comment, I would have respected that but his statements to us were ludicrous. Anyone should have been able to see the outright lies. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
Your comment is the perfect reason to say, "well, DUH!". ;) I'm amazed at how many people haven't even heard about this "event".
Thanks, didn't know that!
OU and NU charge students for tickets, though with a discount.
BTW, do KU students have free seats in Allen Field House?
A little Big 12 razzing here, folks!
Too bad this is getting zip-zero-nada-zilch coverage outside OKC
The afternoon host on our radio talk show talked about it at length and will do so again tomorrow. The FBI doesn't generally investigate college student suicides. The media will be buzzing soon.