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Amazon.com Removes Mapes Excerpt
NewsBusters.org ^ | October 5, 2005

Posted on 10/05/2005 7:38:43 PM PDT by RatherBiased.com

After initially putting the first chapter of fired CBS producer Mary Mapes's book, Truth and Duty, on its web site, Amazon.com has apparently pulled the plug on the enterprise. Visitors to the online book retailer can no longer read the excerpt as it no longer shows up in listings for the print or audio versions of the book.

Was the excerpt yanked because of the several objectively incorrect assertions it contained, and the subsequent blog firestorm their exposition caused? Only Amazon or Mapes's publisher, St. Martin’s Press knows for sure.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amazon; book; cbsnews; fakebutaccurate; frisnotablog; leftistbias; leftistidiots; leftistlies; mapes; marymapes; mediabias; seebs; truthandduty

1 posted on 10/05/2005 7:38:44 PM PDT by RatherBiased.com
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To: RatherBiased.com
Only Amazon or Mapes's publisher, St. Martin’s Press knows for sure.

Well if she has too, Mapes can always....well you know....fake it.

2 posted on 10/05/2005 7:46:07 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (If Osama Was A Piece Of Ass - Clinton Would Have Nailed Him)
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To: RatherBiased.com

Yeah right in the first chapter she brags about how great and thorough her fact checking is, then she says buckhead posted his debunking of her story before it even aired on TV. He posted hours afterwards. Gross error right in the beginning of the book that a quick check would have revealed.


3 posted on 10/05/2005 7:48:23 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: PJ-Comix

I think you can claim at least an assist on this one.


4 posted on 10/05/2005 7:48:29 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (It took 6 grand juries to indict Tom Delay. That's 5 more than it takes to indict a ham sandwich.)
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To: RatherBiased.com; Buckhead
From the link to the incorrect assertions:
That first entry, posted by a longtime Republican political activist lawyer who used the name “Buckhead,” set the tone for what was to come.

There was no analysis of what the documents actually said, no work done to look at the content, no comparison with the official record, no phone calls made to check the facts of the story, nothing beyond a cursory and politically motivated examination of the typeface.

So... according to the now fired Mapes, all stories should have their content thoroughly discussed, whether they are made up or not. In the old days that was called mud-slinging. Sounds like something right tout of the DNC play book... Investigate because of the seriousness of the charge, who cares if there is no evidence.

Bill Clinton was charged by a woman with rape. I don't recall the MSM or democrats screaming for an investigation.

5 posted on 10/05/2005 7:51:48 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: RatherBiased.com
... Mary Mapes's book, Truth and Duty...

The title of her book is "Truth and Duty". I think that right there is the problem with the left-wing MSM. It's largely composed of zealots who think they're on some kind of mission from God to bring The Truth to the ignorant masses.

Newsflash, Mary: All I want from you is the news. Not the truth, the news. I'll decide what the truth is.

6 posted on 10/05/2005 8:00:33 PM PDT by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Mount Athos

That was intentional. It's called "spin", and it's meant to mislead those readers who don't have the common sense to research the facts. (ie most MSM viewers.) Just as she and Dan did with the forged documents, she is directing her false information at her regular demographic: sheeple.


7 posted on 10/05/2005 8:06:45 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: Doctor Raoul
Well if she has too, Mapes can always....well you know....fake it.

For some insane and unknown reason, that made me think of Meg Ryan's deli scene in When Harry Met Sally.

8 posted on 10/05/2005 8:12:03 PM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Mount Athos
Could anything be more ludicrous than suggesting that the criticism occurred prior to the story on TV?

How does she suggest that buckhead got the news before it aired.

9 posted on 10/05/2005 8:21:32 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Saint Martin's Press can kiss this bookshop goodbye; the sales critter was less than happy to see us go.

Mapes' excerpt was just too much.
10 posted on 10/05/2005 8:21:47 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: Mount Athos
Yeah right in the first chapter she brags about how great and thorough her fact checking is, then she says buckhead posted his debunking of her story before it even aired on TV. He posted hours afterwards. Gross error right in the beginning of the book that a quick check would have revealed.

She has such a East Coast mind set that she didn't consider the West Coast clock FR operates under...

11 posted on 10/05/2005 8:22:26 PM PDT by tubebender (Humboldt County...Where the men are men and so are the women)
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To: RatherBiased.com
I was told that the first posting claiming the documents were fakes had gone up on Free Republic before our broadcast was even off the air! How had the Web site even gotten copies of the documents? We hadn’t put them online until later.

Man, this woman's full of crap! Just from memory, I know the above is 100% wrong, because I was on that thread that night. Buckhead's posting was shortly after it first aired.

Nice fact-checking, Mopes/Dopes - you moron!! Just as diligent as you were with the original fake documents. You, Rathernot - the whole gang of leftist liars, you can all just kiss my ass.

C?BS!

12 posted on 10/05/2005 8:26:52 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: RatherBiased.com

My favorite excerpt was how she heard it was being discussed on obscure websites she had never heard of before, such as Free Republic and Powerline, so she ran right over to Daily Kos and checked it out....


13 posted on 10/05/2005 8:30:58 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Buckhead

ping


14 posted on 10/05/2005 8:34:44 PM PDT by GOPJ (Mapes isn't stuck on stupid, she invented it.)
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To: I still care

15 posted on 10/05/2005 8:35:38 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson
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To: I still care

I think she only said the part about the right leaning web sites, not about running to daily kos, that was just a witty comic parody


16 posted on 10/05/2005 8:37:17 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: RatherBiased.com
PJ-Comix comments on Mapes' book. DUmmie FUnnies 10-04-05 (Mary Mapes Spins Fiction---Book Excerpt)
17 posted on 10/05/2005 8:39:44 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (We were promised someone in the Scalia/Thomas mold. Instead we got a Dem approved Bush crony. :-()
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To: RatherBiased.com
They still don't get it.

The docs were fake but the story was real matra.

They could feel it was true. Idiots


Just like the coverage of N.O.
18 posted on 10/05/2005 8:52:51 PM PDT by dila813
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To: RatherBiased.com

Perhaps she had a physical reaction, and was gasping and gulping for air, sweating and shaking, and checking out websites full of hyperconservative vitriol. Perhaps she recoiled in horror and shock at all the refutation and cruel mockery of her first chapter, as if a right wing political jihad had been born, with her as the target!!!

Or maybe her publisher did.


19 posted on 10/05/2005 9:15:21 PM PDT by Buckhead
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To: Charles Henrickson

LOL....this toon is too good!!!!


20 posted on 10/05/2005 9:21:21 PM PDT by indcons (FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons to join the "Norman bombing" ping list. High-volume ping list)
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To: KarlInOhio
PJ-Comix comments on Mapes' book. DUmmie FUnnies 10-04-05 (Mary Mapes Spins Fiction---Book Excerpt)

The excerpt and comments are hilarious. BTW, what in the hell is "peripheral spacing"????? There's a well-known typesetting concept called "proportional spacing".

21 posted on 10/05/2005 9:22:11 PM PDT by mikegi
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To: Mount Athos

Thanks, we don't want to get OUR facts wrong!

Just the same, isn't it strange how clueless the MSM is? Their head is so in the clouds they are totally unaware of major sites, forms and blogs like FR?

That is, IF she is telling the truth.


22 posted on 10/05/2005 9:28:05 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Mount Athos

Thanks, we don't want to get OUR facts wrong!

Just the same, isn't it strange how clueless the MSM is? Their head is so in the clouds they are totally unaware of major sites, forms and blogs like FR?

That is, IF she is telling the truth.


23 posted on 10/05/2005 9:28:05 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Mount Athos

Thanks, we don't want to get OUR facts wrong!

Just the same, isn't it strange how clueless the MSM is? Their head is so in the clouds they are totally unaware of major sites, forms and blogs like FR?

That is, IF she is telling the truth.


24 posted on 10/05/2005 9:28:06 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: tubebender

According to my records, Buckhead made the famous "post 47" at 11:59 EST. Now 60 minutes is on early in the evening, right?


25 posted on 10/05/2005 9:33:20 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Mount Athos

I only pressed it once! I promise!


26 posted on 10/05/2005 9:35:32 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: RatherBiased.com
Our work was being compared to that of Jayson Blair, the discredited New York Times reporter who had fabricated and plagiarized stories.

That would be me. :-)

27 posted on 10/05/2005 9:46:49 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Lt. Gen. Russel Honore to MSM: "You are stuck on stupid. Over.")
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To: Starve The Beast
"Newsflash, Mary: All I want from you is the news. Not the truth, the news. I'll decide what the truth is."

That's a Pulitzer statement if I ever heard one. Good on you!

28 posted on 10/05/2005 9:53:03 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: kingu
"Saint Martin's Press can kiss this bookshop goodbye; the sales critter was less than happy to see us go."

Time for SMP to become a vanity publisher. It's sure acting like one.

29 posted on 10/05/2005 9:56:47 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: I'm ALL Right!

Don't you guys understand! The documents weren't forged, they were recreated from historical information.

This is commonly referred to as "forged".


30 posted on 10/06/2005 5:29:38 AM PDT by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate
The documents weren't forged, they were recreated from historical information warped, deceptive liberal minds.

There. Now it's accurate.

31 posted on 10/06/2005 7:05:43 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: RatherBiased.com
The book is no longer on Amazon at all this morning! (Thurs)

Looking for something?
We're sorry. The Web address you entered is not a functioning page on our site

32 posted on 10/06/2005 7:19:30 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: Slings and Arrows
I think you can claim at least an assist on this one.

The MAIN reason why the Mary Mapes book was removed from Amazon was because I DUFUed it on the DUFUed it in the DUmmie FUnnies. That book was taken down from Amazon (first just the excerpt and then the book itself) only a SHORT TIME after it was featured in the DUmmie FUnnies.

33 posted on 10/06/2005 2:33:13 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: RatherBiased.com
The ONLY place where you can read the ENTIRE Mary Mapes book excerpt is in the DUmmie FUnnies where it has been preserved for posterity...and comedy.
34 posted on 10/06/2005 2:34:46 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: PJ-Comix

hey PJ, you should ping the list to this thread....

kudos!!


35 posted on 10/06/2005 2:35:43 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (FR is funny when the HYSTERIA corps is out in force.....it's vanity day!!!!)
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To: KarlInOhio
PJ-Comix comments on Mapes' book. DUmmie FUnnies 10-04-05 (Mary Mapes Spins Fiction---Book Excerpt)

YUP! The MAIN reason the book was removed. Remember, within minutes after my DUFU blog edition about this went up, it was the #1 news story in Google about Mary Mapes. Right now it is in the #2 slot.

36 posted on 10/06/2005 2:38:35 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Buckhead
Or maybe her publisher did.

You might remember that I did question in the DUmmie FUnnies why her publisher did no fact checking. The fact that Mary Mapes herself can't be bothered with fact checking is well known but that even her publisher doesn't bother to check the facts is really inexcusable.

37 posted on 10/06/2005 2:42:23 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Join the DUmmie FUnnies PING List for the FUNNIEST Blog on the Web)
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To: Starve The Beast

The title should read, Truth Decay.


38 posted on 10/06/2005 2:44:37 PM PDT by csvset
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To: RatherBiased.com
The audio tape version is still up here. No excerpts though.
39 posted on 10/06/2005 2:50:31 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: I'm ALL Right!

The documents weren't forged, they were recreated from historical information warped, deceptive liberal minds.
There. Now it's accurate.


Thanks, I needed that, I don't know what came over me.


40 posted on 10/06/2005 2:54:53 PM PDT by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: stockpirate

de nada


41 posted on 10/06/2005 2:57:31 PM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
There was no analysis of what the documents actually said, no work done to look at the content, no comparison with the official record, no phone calls made to check the facts of the story, nothing beyond a cursory and politically motivated examination of the typeface.

If you can show that the memo had to have been a forgery because of the typeface, none of that other stuff matters at all. Had this been a trial, the judge would have thrown the case out of court no matter what the other evidence and then gone out loaded for bear looking for who submitted perjurious evidence in his courtroom.

42 posted on 10/06/2005 2:59:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Buckhead; Howlin
Does Amazon still plan to market her book of provable lies?

Do you have enough to sue whinny Mary and her publisher for perpetrating a lie against you?

43 posted on 10/06/2005 3:15:36 PM PDT by Carolinamom (Weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning......Psalm 30:5)
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To: Hank Rearden
I was told that the first posting claiming the documents were fakes had gone up on Free Republic before our broadcast was even off the air!

To: Howlin
WE NEED TO SEE THOSE MEMOS AGAIN!

They are not in the style that we used when I came in to the USAF. They looked like the style and format we started using about 12 years ago (1992). Our signature blocks were left justified, now they are rigth of center...like the ones they just showed.

Can we get a copy of those memos?

107 posted on 09/08/2004 8:19:00 PM EDT by TankerKC (R.I.P. Spc Trevor A. Win'E American Hero)
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44 posted on 10/06/2005 3:25:02 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: RatherBiased.com; PJ-Comix
The headline for the screed at St Martin's:

"TRUTH AND DUTY is the always fast, sometimes furious, and often unexpectedly funny story behind the collapse of one of America's great institutions."

Did you write this, PJ?

45 posted on 10/06/2005 3:28:51 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Jihad!


46 posted on 10/07/2005 12:30:02 PM PDT by sine_nomine (CBS' Mary Mapes: "It dawned on me that I was present at the birth of a political jihad.")
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To: indcons

47 posted on 10/07/2005 4:44:43 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Crouching Producer, Hidden Drama Queen)
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To: RatherBiased.com
THE MAPES
OF RATHER

MARY: "It don't matter. I'll be all aroun' in the dark. I'll be ever'where--wherever you can look. Wherever there's a fax so hungry journalists can be duped, I'll be there. Wherever there's a blog beatin' up a lib, I'll be there. I'll be in the way DUmmies yell when they're mad--an' I'll be in the way FReepers laugh when they're amused an' they know the moonbats are barkin'. An' when the people are watchin' the stuff we make up, an' believin' the stories we report, I'll be there too."

DAN: "I don't understan' it, Mary."

MARY: "Me neither, Dan, but jus' sump'n I've been thinkin' about."

48 posted on 10/07/2005 4:46:07 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Crouching Producer, Hidden Drama Queen)
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To: Charles Henrickson

LOL....again. I agree....the most common threads on DU are FU this, FU that, or more commonly F Bush. Shows the infantile vocabulary of the followers of the "Democratic Al Quaida."


49 posted on 10/07/2005 6:00:31 PM PDT by indcons (Please FReepmail PhiKapMom and Indcons if you want on/off the Norman Bombing ping list.)
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To: tubebender
Yeah right in the first chapter she brags about how great and thorough her fact checking is, then she says buckhead posted his debunking of her story before it even aired on TV. He posted hours afterwards. Gross error right in the beginning of the book that a quick check would have revealed.

OK, now she's going to say that PJ-Comix blew her out of the water before she was even published! LOL

Man, you couldn't write stuff like this -- who would believe it! ;)

In her next book, Grounded Before Flying she will relate how she was maligned, misquoted, and taken out of context (although PJ posted the entire contents) by "the evil right wing blogs" in an attempt to quash the selling of her tome before it was even published.

50 posted on 10/09/2005 5:02:25 PM PDT by Boomer Geezer (Sgt. Wanda Dabbs, 22, of the 230th, called out, "That's my president, hooah!" and there were cheers.)
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