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Grand Jury Saw DeLay Prosecutor As Lacking
Washington Post (AP) ^ | LARRY MARGASAK and SUZANNE GAMBOA

Posted on 10/05/2005 7:47:29 PM PDT by frankjr

A prosecutor tried to convince a grand jury that Rep. Tom DeLay gave tacit approval to a series of laundered campaign contributions and became angry when jurors refused to indict, according to two sources directly familiar with the proceeding.

The grand jury was one of three that considered whether there was probable cause to indict DeLay. Two other grand juries did indict the former House majority leader, who had to step aside temporarily under Republican rules.

Both indictments focused on an alleged scheme to provide corporate political donations to Texas legislative candidates in violation of state law. The first indictment forced DeLay to temporarily step down as majority leader under House GOP rules.

The sources, who only commented anonymously because of grand jury secrecy, said Travis County prosecutor Ronnie Earle became visibly angry when the grand jurors last week signed a document declining to indict, known as a "no bill."

One source said the sole evidence Earle presented was a DeLay interview with the prosecutor, in which DeLay said he was generally aware of activities of his associates. He is charged in an alleged money laundering scheme to funnel corporate money to Texas legislative candidates in violation of state law.

The source said that Earle tried to convince the jurors that if DeLay "didn't say, 'Stop it,' he gave his tacit approval."

The mood was unpleasant," another source said, describing Earle's reaction.

"We have inquired carefully into the case" and "failed to find a bill of indictment against him," the grand jury said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: delay; earle; grandjury; ronnieearle
Earle is certifiable.
1 posted on 10/05/2005 7:47:31 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr
Earle can always get a gun and shoot Delay, it about amounts to the same thing he is trying to do in court.

Of course, the socialist press would have a harder time singing Earles praises.

2 posted on 10/05/2005 7:50:17 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: frankjr

If a law goes into effect in 2003, and the activities in question took place in 2002...

Has the law been broken?

/rhetorical musings


3 posted on 10/05/2005 7:50:55 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: frankjr
You might find this related article interesting too.

Oppo file undermines DeLay's foe

4 posted on 10/05/2005 7:51:40 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: frankjr

Yes, yes he is.


5 posted on 10/05/2005 7:52:25 PM PDT by Jaded (Hell sometimes has fluorescent lighting and a trumpet.)
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To: frankjr

There goes the "ham sandwich" theory (that any competent prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich if he wanted). Oh wait, I said "competent". Theory stands.


6 posted on 10/05/2005 7:55:55 PM PDT by xjcsa (The Kyoto Protocol is about as futile as sending seven maids with seven mops to rid a beach of sand)
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To: frankjr
Ronnie Earle became visibly angry when the grand jurors last week signed a document declining to indict
7 posted on 10/05/2005 7:55:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Jaded

Our judicial system is a joke, the prosecutor gets rejected by a grand jury and just picks a new one.

What a travesty. He was generally aware of activities but didn't know the day to day activities. The nitwit Earle is indicting him for not saying no to something he didn't even know about. There is no evidence.

Earle goes for an indictment that wasn't even a crime at the time. He goes after kay bailey hutchinson and other political conservative dems that he doesn't like. Judges have rejected him countless times.


TIME TO DISBAR THIS COMMIE EARLE

wATCH A TOOL


8 posted on 10/05/2005 7:58:49 PM PDT by johnmecainrino
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To: xjcsa
There goes the "ham sandwich" theory (that any competent prosecutor could get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich if he wanted). Oh wait, I said "competent". Theory stands.

But there's another possibility: DeLay looks less guilty than a ham sandwich.

9 posted on 10/05/2005 7:59:28 PM PDT by sourcery (Givernment: The way the average voter spells "government.")
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To: coconutt2000

ex post facto.

Doesn't matter, Earle is on a fishing expedition and he has the taxpayers to pay the tab.


10 posted on 10/05/2005 8:00:38 PM PDT by flashbunny (Suggested New RNC Slogan: "The Republican Party: Who else you gonna vote for?")
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To: frankjr

This news information from the liberal WAPO is series, if they are smelling a RAT trick, Delay is home free.


11 posted on 10/05/2005 8:02:46 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: JeanS
From your link...

I learned about Earle while consulting for a Republican candidate, Shane Phelps, who dared run against him in 1996. Because Austin and surrounding Travis County was then, and still is, a liberal Democratic kingdom, Phelps’s campaign was unsuccessful. But we built an opposition-research file on Earle that was disturbing. In fact, Earle’s file suggested to me that he was the most corrupt and immoral individual I had ever scrutinized in the course of politics.

The most damning evidence was in a file documenting the 1984 dismissal of a criminal investigator in Earle’s office. The key document is a transcript of a July 16, 1984, interview that Texas Ranger Ron Stewart conducted with Earle employee Joe Dale Morris.

According to a Feb. 1, 1985, article in the Dallas Morning News, Morris was forced to resign after that interview for purportedly aiding state and federal agents who were probing Earle’s operation. I can see how Earle would not have cared for the interview.

Morris’s testimony is shocking. Describing the probe of a deaf-school administrator, he quotes one source, former County Attorney Margaret Moore, as telling him, “I can’t get any cooperation out [of] Ronnie Earle or Steve McCleery. McCleery is an idiot, and Earle’s up on dope all the time.”

Morris also confesses to exploding in anger and rage in Earle’s office when he learned that public-corruption cases involving two law-enforcement officers had been dismissed. He also describes how Earle failed to prosecute other cases, even when Morris had extracted confessions. Says Morris, “I have to control my temper, but those jackasses down there are so damn crooked.”

At one point, the ranger asks Morris: “Is there anything that you know whereby that some things were actually covered up and were not given to either an investigative grand jury, the facts were not related or someone said we’re just not, we’re gonna hold this back, we’re not going to permit this information to be aired? And I’m talking about obstruction of justice is what I’m talking about.”

Morris responds simply: “The answer to your question is yes. And I have in my possession the information that was caused to be destroyed.” Morris then goes on with the details.

Later in the interview, Morris titillates with tales of Earle’s alleged use of drugs, illicit sex and misuse of official automobiles and expense accounts.

12 posted on 10/05/2005 8:03:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: frankjr

"It's not the nature of the evidence, it is the seriousness of the charge."


13 posted on 10/05/2005 8:09:07 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis

Precisely. The Compost is in damage control mode.


14 posted on 10/05/2005 8:18:14 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (A Plaming Democrat gathers no votes)
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
This news information from the liberal WAPO is series, if they are smelling a RAT trick, Delay is home free.

Double that. Because the Austin American-Statesman (which is, if anything, more unreservedly liberal than the Post) is also turning on their once dear Ronnie.

Earle has overplayed his hand. A dumb thing to do when you're evidently sitting nine high...

15 posted on 10/05/2005 8:20:40 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: kcvl; All

What is it about Austin and Travis County that makes it so liberal?

I understand there's a lot of state employees and the U of Texas is also located there but it seems like there's got to more to it than that.

What is it about this area that attracts so many leftists?

Anyone?


16 posted on 10/05/2005 8:20:46 PM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: flashbunny
Earle claims he suddenly found "new evidence" over the weekend that allowed him the ability to twist the new GJ's arm over the course of a few hours.

Unless I'm sadly mistaken DeLay and his attorneys will soon have to be granted full and complete access to this so called "new evidence" in advance of DeLay's demand for a speed trial.... and it will be interesting to see what Earle managed to "trump up" - could it possibly be "Faked" like the infamous Mapes TX ANG documents??
17 posted on 10/05/2005 8:26:08 PM PDT by VRWCTexan (History has a long memory - but still repeats itself)
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To: Rome2000
Forget about SCOTUS picks and Bush not wanting a fight. Let's see him take what we have - which should be enough - and put a federal case on Ronnie Earle!

Earle should be behind bars.

18 posted on 10/05/2005 8:29:57 PM PDT by CT
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To: CT
....could it possibly be "Faked" like the infamous Mapes TX ANG documents??

Along with Ronnie Earle, its where Ben Barnes and Robin Rather cast their webs.

19 posted on 10/05/2005 8:31:46 PM PDT by CT
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To: frankjr

A few facts short of a case and a few bricks short of a load, no doubt.


20 posted on 10/05/2005 8:51:46 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: frankjr

One thing Earle isn't short of is grand juries.


21 posted on 10/05/2005 8:52:41 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: frankjr

This is ridiculous


22 posted on 10/05/2005 8:53:47 PM PDT by Rosemont
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To: dr_who_2

To be technical, a few bricks short of a hod.

The meaning is the same.

;)


23 posted on 10/05/2005 8:55:29 PM PDT by Hilltop
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To: kcvl
There's a lot of allegatin' going on in them excerpts. I haven't heard Earle dispute them yet - so they must be true.
24 posted on 10/05/2005 8:59:08 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: frankjr
DeLay and political associates Jim Ellis and John Colyandro were indicted last week by a grand jury on a charge of criminal conspiracy to violate Texas election laws...Fox News tonight had the foreman of the first grand jury on and he said he was still upset about political ads run by DeLay years ago and that's why he voted to indict - "it didn't have anything to do with what on in the grand jury room", the guy explained smugly - looks like they need a grand jury to investigate the grand jury process in Travis County......
25 posted on 10/05/2005 8:59:41 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: MplsSteve
I understand there's a lot of state employees and the U of Texas is also located there but it seems like there's got to more to it than that. What is it about this area that attracts so many leftists?

EVERY state capital which has a major university is that way: Madison, WI, Tallahassee, FL, Boston, MA, etc., etc. Academics, bureaucrats, their media sycophants and their families totally BELIEVE America is great because of GOVERNMENT, not because of liberty.

26 posted on 10/05/2005 9:11:07 PM PDT by FreeKeys (The single most exciting thing you encounter in gov't is competence, because it's so rare.DPMoynihan)
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To: MplsSteve; All

Oh -- and, BTW, Ronnie Earle and all his liberal friends have been on this huge kick about getting corporate money out of politics, but what NEVER occurs to them is that the problem with politics isn't the money; it's the POWER.

"Too many voters are already bought -- not by corporate campaign donors, but by the government itself." -- Joseph Sobran.

"The government is the biggest special-interest group there is." -- Rush Limbaugh

"I don't think it's bribery; I think it's extortion. Bribery, you know, is when the person that's giving the money does it voluntarily. What it is in Washington is extortion because they all ask for the money." -- Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) on FNC's The O'Reilly Factor, Feb. 22, 2001

-- more of such at http://FreedomKeys.com/finance.htm


27 posted on 10/05/2005 9:20:20 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Whenever you come across a screw-up this big, you know the government is behind it." -- Ann Coulter)
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To: FreeKeys

Columbus, OH is LESS liberal than most other major Ohio cities, though, even with OSU. Although it's leftist enough to rival Austin...

Well Cincy of course is the most conservative but Cleveland, Akron, Toledo, Dayton, and Youngstown all beat Columbus in percentage of left-wing moonbats.


28 posted on 10/05/2005 9:20:32 PM PDT by RockinRight (Why are there so many RINOs?)
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marker


29 posted on 10/05/2005 9:51:10 PM PDT by GretchenM (Hooked on porn and hating it? Visit http://www.theophostic.com .)
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To: FreeKeys

Leftists hang around university towns and cities often because of an inclination not to leave the womb of the academic-setting.

A related aspect is the tendency to think in abstract terms, and outright fantasy, rather than in terms of acquired life experience.

You can get by with that in these places. With plenty of company (though an atmosphere of ennui often prevails...)

Young and old are often attracted to these places because of sheer yuppie amenities.


30 posted on 10/06/2005 3:10:01 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: coconutt2000
If a law goes into effect in 2003, and the activities in question took place in 2002...

Has the law been broken?

"No bill of attainder or ex post facto law, retroactive law, or any other law impairing the obligation of contracts, shall be made." - Texas constitution, Article I, Sec. 16.

31 posted on 10/06/2005 3:26:48 AM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Awww... shucks....

Tell me it isn't so.... ;-)


32 posted on 10/06/2005 3:29:39 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Rome2000
Earle can always get a gun and shoot Delay, it about amounts to the same thing he is trying to do in court.

Mr. Earle would then sue the gun manufacturers for the crime.

33 posted on 10/06/2005 3:52:54 AM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: frankjr
Captain Ed opining on this article:



Grand Jury Shopping And Intimidation = Texas-Style Justice?
More about Ronnie Earle's legal practices as District Attorney for Travis County has come to light after garnering a snap indictment for money laundering against Rep. Tom DeLay. It turns out that Earle convened a third grand jury to add more charges -- because an unannounced second grand jury refused to indict DeLay at all, provoking Earle's ire:

A prosecutor tried to persuade a grand jury that Rep. Tom DeLay tacitly approved illegal use of campaign money and became angry when jurors decided against an indictment, according to two sources directly familiar with the proceeding.
"The mood was unpleasant," one source said Wednesday, describing prosecutor Travis County prosecutor Ronnie Earle's reaction. ...

Little was previously known about the grand jury that refused to indict DeLay, who has maintained his innocence and accused Earle — a Democrat — of bringing the prosecution to politically damage him. Earle has denied the allegation and pointed out he has indicted far more Democrats than Republicans.

One source said the sole evidence Earle presented to the grand jury that declined to indict was a DeLay interview with the prosecutor in August. DeLay reportedly said he was generally aware of activities of his associates.

The source said Earle tried to convince the jurors that if DeLay "didn't say, 'Stop it,' he gave his tacit approval."


Now we have a conspiracy charge based on a failure to say "Stop it", three tries at grand-jury indictments, and a bit of intimidation tossed in on top. This case against DeLay looks more and more like a bill of attainder against Earle, one that should result in sanctions on his ability to practice law in Texas rather than anything that DeLay should have to answer in criminal court.

How many other grand juries refused to indict DeLay on this "evidence"? How many others has Earle empaneled over the last few years, only to come back with nothing for his efforts? How much taxpayer money has gone down the Travis County drain for Earle's personal crusade against Tom DeLay?
34 posted on 10/06/2005 4:50:28 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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bump


35 posted on 10/06/2005 5:00:08 AM PDT by XHogPilot (Islam is The Death Cult)
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To: mtntop3
Leftists hang around university towns and cities often because of an inclination not to leave the womb of the academic-setting. A related aspect is the tendency to think in abstract terms, and outright fantasy, rather than in terms of acquired life experience. You can get by with that in these places. With plenty of company (though an atmosphere of ennui often prevails...) Young and old are often attracted to these places because of sheer yuppie amenities.

Well said. Very well said (although it seems to be somewhat in conflict with your tagline, IMO). Wish I could write so well.

36 posted on 10/06/2005 7:22:47 AM PDT by FreeKeys ("Socialism has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could evade it."- Tom Sowell)
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To: FreeKeys

Thank you. But there's some bombast there...


37 posted on 10/07/2005 4:31:52 AM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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