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To: PatrickHenry
This isn't the first instance where the judge has indicated he thinks the Thomas More law center's attorneys are incompetent. I mean, bestiality? The great thing in a bench trial is the judge can let them waste their time without stopping them, as he would in a jury trial. And as long as they waste their time, they're not presenting material that would actually help their case...if there is anything that would help their case.

Dembski on his blog has already concluded Dover's probably going to lose. What he's hoping is that this will be a narrow decision; that the court will find that Dover erred without finding that ID is a form of creationism and therefore constitutionally excluded from public schools. Conversely, it looks like the ACLU is shooting for all the marbles. And they might well win them.

7 posted on 10/07/2005 7:48:10 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
This isn't the first instance where the judge has indicated he thinks the Thomas More law center's attorneys are incompetent. I mean, bestiality?

You've got to figure that these type of people are used to dealing with a brainwashed congregation that drinks up that kind of kool-aid. Now, instead of being happy with their freedom of religion, they want to push taliban style fanaticism into science class and lose in court. It would seem that reasonable people in the religious community would call them on it but they sit silent even as the major advocates of the intelligent design hoax slink back into the shadows and wash their hands.

10 posted on 10/07/2005 8:02:45 AM PDT by shuckmaster (Bring back SeaLion and ModernMan!)
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To: Right Wing Professor
... finding that ID is a form of creationism and therefore constitutionally excluded from public schools.

The worst of all possible outcomes for them. They would have to go back into the creation science labs, sweep away all the cobwebs, raise the lightening rod, and do some science.

12 posted on 10/07/2005 8:33:25 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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