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Sen. Brownback May Nix Miers
Newsmax.com ^ | Oct. 7, 2005

Posted on 10/07/2005 12:18:33 PM PDT by Map Kernow

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To: balch3
You can be sarcastic all you want, but GWB is our President and we're at war. I'm as conservative as anybody here, and probably more than most, but he won the election, and he deserves to have his nominees confirmed.

No, he doesn't. He deserves to nominate people - after that, the bright lights of scrutiny come on. In this case, it looks like Bush boofed it again.

And we're going to be "at war" forever; it enables Big Stupid Government to grow endlessly and gives Party-Uber-Alles hacks an excuse to coerce mindless uniformity. Until the whole mess falls apart.

War Is the Health of the State - Randolph Bourne

41 posted on 10/07/2005 12:51:20 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: FreeRep
Harriett Miers was the person whom President Bush charged with finding suitable strict constructionists for the courts

EXCELLENT point that bears repeating!!!

Who was reponsible for all those good judges Bush has appointed up to now? MIERS you say??????

42 posted on 10/07/2005 12:51:45 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: balch3

Confirmed at conservatives expense???? Not hardly.


43 posted on 10/07/2005 12:52:13 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: claudiustg
Yep, people are going to vote their Senators out for voting for Miers. You betcha.

Paul Mirengoff at Powerline blog thinks the Miers nomination may cost up to two Senate seats. I'll take his word over yours.

44 posted on 10/07/2005 12:52:55 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow

So you believe there should be an abortion litmus test, and that a candidate for the court should tell senators how they will rule on abortion cases before they can get their votes?

I'm just trying to make sure I understand your position.


45 posted on 10/07/2005 12:53:22 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: All

Sen. Sam Brownback, as we are seeing here, is one of the few DC politicians with principles. I knew he would have many a question re: Miers, and I am glad he is pursuing their answers.


46 posted on 10/07/2005 12:54:23 PM PDT by Im4LifeandLiberty (Brownback '08!)
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To: All

Sen. Sam Brownback, as we are seeing here, is one of the few DC politicians with principles. I knew he would have many a question re: Miers, and I am glad he is pursuing their answers.


47 posted on 10/07/2005 12:54:34 PM PDT by Im4LifeandLiberty (Brownback '08!)
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To: FreeRep
Harriett Miers was the person whom President Bush charged with finding suitable strict constructionists for the courts.

Yeah, and I'm the guy in my family responsible for choosing which car to buy and drive. Does that make me an automotive engineer????

48 posted on 10/07/2005 12:54:54 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FreeRep
Harriett Miers was the person whom President Bush charged with finding suitable strict constructionists for the courts. But, she is not a nerds from elite law schools and it is important is that all non-elitist pro-lifers recognize Harriet as one of their own and rally behind her and President Bush

I am non-elitist and pro-life, but I ain't gonna accept someone just because someone says trust me. I can think for myself and something about this stinks. I'm backing Brownback in his opposition. If the judiciary committee does not recommend her confirmation, she's dead in the water.

49 posted on 10/07/2005 12:55:33 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Im4LifeandLiberty

yikes! sorry for the double-post!


50 posted on 10/07/2005 12:55:52 PM PDT by Im4LifeandLiberty (Brownback '08!)
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To: Hank Rearden

Two reasons why I don't like this pick, without even going into "cronyism." One, it tells the left that they did the right thing in opposing Robert Bork in '87, because now, even with a Republican majority in the Senate, a Republican president feels that he has to nominate a "stealth candidate" that has no long paper trail of decisions or a record of constitutional law to to review.

Secondly, what does this tell young conservative judges and attorneys who might someday aspire to the court? That they better keep a low profile, because anything they do or say that would indicate a belief in the Constitution the way the founders intended can be used against you.

I thought Roberts was an inspired pick, but Miers is looking to be just not qualified. With Brownback expressing reservations, I am beginning to doubt that she will make it out of the judiciary committee hearings.


51 posted on 10/07/2005 12:56:59 PM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Good post. I completely agree.


52 posted on 10/07/2005 12:57:17 PM PDT by Im4LifeandLiberty (Brownback '08!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
So you believe there should be an abortion litmus test, and that a candidate for the court should tell senators how they will rule on abortion cases before they can get their votes?

I believe the Constitution gives the Senate and its members the power---the obligation---to advise and consent on SCOTUS nominations. Agreed?

Now is abortion a matter of constitutional law? Answer: it shouldn't be, but it is. Are you saying no Senator has the right to know a nominee's views on this issue, particularly one of absolutely crucial importance to the base (though apparently not even on Bush's radar screen)?

53 posted on 10/07/2005 12:58:03 PM PDT by Map Kernow ("I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing" ---Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Map Kernow

who is he and what is his track record in predicting such things? i think it is BS. by and large, the electorate is NOT FOLLOWING THIS. real everyday people who vote are going about their daily lives completely unaware that there is this life and death struggle going on among conservatives over the Miers nomination. political junkies tend to ascribe their passions to the rank and file and it rarely translates.


54 posted on 10/07/2005 12:58:41 PM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Tom Coburn is on the committee to and he is rabidly pro-life. He could vote no as well if he thinks she's squishy.

It is entirely possible that this nomination could fizzle. It's a shame, because she seems like a nice lady. But the stakes are just too high.

55 posted on 10/07/2005 12:59:39 PM PDT by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Dreagon
The problem is that conservatives have just been burned to many times with "trust me".

By GWB?????

56 posted on 10/07/2005 1:02:10 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Conservatives don't want judicial "litmus tests", UNLESS they supply the test that is))
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas

Great post. I've agreed with you all week.

Did you see this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1498195/posts?q=1&&page=201
"Miers' time on Dallas City Council provides some insight"


It is very interesting. Which goes hand in hand with this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1498109/posts
"Today's Chronicle of Higher Education has a story that describes Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers' involvement with a lecture series at her alma mater, SMU Law School. The inaugural lecturer? Gloria Steinem."

In the late 1990s, as a member of the advisory board for Southern Methodist University's law school, Ms. Miers pushed for the creation of an endowed lecture series in women's studies named for Louise B. Raggio, one of the first women to rise to prominence in the Texas legal community ...Ms. Miers, whom President Bush announced on Monday as his choice to fill the Supreme Court seat being vacated by Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, not only advocated for the lecture series, but also gave money and solicited donations to help get it off the ground ... A feminist icon, Gloria Steinem, delivered the series's first lecture, in 1998.


57 posted on 10/07/2005 1:03:23 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Map Kernow
Yeah, and I'm the guy in my family responsible for choosing which car to buy and drive

You're really comparing the expertise of buying a car for one family with that of choosing judges for the whole country?

That's the weakest one I've heard yet.

58 posted on 10/07/2005 1:03:41 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: IndyTiger
Secondly, what does this tell young conservative judges and attorneys who might someday aspire to the court? That they better keep a low profile, because anything they do or say that would indicate a belief in the Constitution the way the founders intended can be used against you.

You make an excellent point here; if Bush doesn't have the guts to nominate and fight for a clearly-defined conservative jurist, none will be clearly defined in the future.

I think she's a goner in committee too, unless she bails out on her own - which is the usual face-saving move.

Then the question becomes: with Bush Jr. in a snit over his screwup, will he just go with his other crony Gonzales (that's Spanish for "Souter") and hang tough on an even worse pick, while Luttig, Rogers Brown and Owen continue to gather dust?

59 posted on 10/07/2005 1:03:43 PM PDT by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Map Kernow

See #57


60 posted on 10/07/2005 1:04:29 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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