Posted on 10/09/2005 5:39:18 AM PDT by BlackRain
NORMAN, Okla. (AP) _ A completed review of University of Oklahoma stadium surveillance tapes by the FBI did not spot Joel Henry Hinrichs III trying to get inside.
Hinrichs died Oct. 1 when explosives _ made of hydrogen peroxide _ strapped to his body detonated while he sat on a park bench about 100 yards from the stadium.
After a week of investigation, the FBI and OU continue to treat the death as a suicide by a troubled loner, rather than a failed terrorist plot.
OU President David Boren announced Tuesday the FBI was reviewing tapes from cameras in and around the stadium. The review is done and Hinrichs is not seen trying to enter, The Oklahoman reported.
(Excerpt) Read more at kotv.com ...
Boren originally stated this:
"The FBI has obtained the security tapes from the stadium security cameras for processing their investigation.
“We do not have video cameras set up all over campus, but we do have cameras in certain buildings for the safety of our students,” Boren said.
Boren said the cameras are not widespread except for in places where there are valuable collections, such as Bizzell Memorial Library and the Oklahoma Memorial Union."
Source: http://www.oudaily.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2005/10/04/43435177ec96e
I doubt we will never know the whole story and Boren will make sure of that.
I would be great if we could get a photo of the stadium enterances to see if there are really cameras there...
ping.
I'm still amazed that the MSM isn't covering this story. A suicide bomber 100 yards from a full football stadium and the story gets virtually no air play. I don't get it. Guess they haven't found a way to pin it on Bush yet.
That was my fist thought.
Hinrichs died Oct. 1 when explosives _ made of hydrogen peroxide _ strapped to his body detonated while he sat on a park bench about 100 yards from the stadium.
Dumber:
After a week of investigation, the FBI and OU continue to treat the death as a suicide by a troubled loner, rather than a failed terrorist plot.
Yeah, right. Suicide. Stack him up over there next to that other suicide victim with two .57 magnum bullet holes in his head.
not that I understand a suicidal mind, but it seems like an awful lot of work to just end up blowing yourself up on a park bench
Yes, hint, hint, it WOULD be important and very useful if some Freeper in Norman would do that very thing. It's amazing what a person with a camera, a pocket notebook and an inquisitive mind can accomplish. Verify, verify, verify. If someone did that much (photos of security cameras) it would be more than what was done during the investigation on the grounds.
They might want to bring a printout of this thread with them when they go do it. Otherwise, campus security or perhaps even the FBI is going to think they are casing the stadium for another attack.
I know they are not in the parking garages because my daughters CD player was stolen last spring and at the time OU PD said they are not allowed to have surveillance cameras in the parking garages or just put on buildings randomly around campus.
I knew they were at the Art Museum and Museum of Natural History and I learned from my son they are in the library but only where their expensive collections are located. You can see the ones at the Art Museum when drive by on Boyd.
Everywhere there is a surveillance camera on OU it seems to be visible from what I can tell being in these facilities. I have never seen them at the stadium -- that's not saying they are not there but he said earlier this week they were installing them at the gates.
Who knows what to believe?
They sure are working hard to make this a non-event.
Thanks for the ping!
I am going to drive by the stadium gate where I go in everytime to see if there is anything NEW been added. If they had cameras, they were hidden and OU usually doesn't hide cameras as they are in full view when you go in the buildings like the Art Museum and Natural Museum of History.
I speculated there were cameras because we have closed circuit TV for the concession area when this first happened but had never seen them. If they had any they would have been inside the stadium as the outer perimeter and facade were added with the remodeling and I don't remember seeing cameras there but I will go take a look today.
This is proof that the news media is just parroting what they are told. The bomb was not made of "concentrated hydrogen peroxide". That is one component used to make the actual explosive. Now I can understand the father getting it wrong, but all the news stories just quote him, without correcting the record. It would only take an extra sentence. But it's easier to just cut and paste from earlier stories and wire reports, rather than actually doing some journalism 101 type stuff.
''Lee Harvey Hinrichs''
You forgot to factor in the dumbing down of journalism factor. I daresay the cut and paste is journalism 101; the do-some-research method you seek is now a graduate course.
"I am going to drive by the stadium gate where I go in everytime to see if there is anything NEW been added."
Let us know what you find, PKM. This could be interesting. I doubt anything new has been added in the way of cameras, because bureaucracies like universites move too slow normally.
Yes, that is a good point. I happened to think of that after I posted that note but then I thought, Freepers have a brain so surely they'll think of being up front and perhaps covering their bases in case some paranoid officer hoves into view. I've met a few of those in my day...
Just to let you know -- my daughter is already back in Norman and my son is about 30 minutes away. YEA!
I am headed for the university as soon as my son picks up his dog. They move really slow when getting work done.
That's what "did not reveal" means.
They also did not reveal what I had for dinner.
Glad to hear they are back safe and sound. I watched the game yesterday with hubby and son. It was nerve racking just watching it on TV. Will check back later and see what you might have found at the stadium.
Paging Rosemary Woods...
"Wow, this case has more contradictions than a Clinton apology. "
LOL..good one.
"How can you confirm that he did not attempt entry when all the entrances don't have cameras?"
Exactly. I am afraid this story is going to go away this week. There are probably already lawsuits being threatened by Cair and similar groups.
No hoo-hoo. He was not seen on any of the (test) tapes that the FBI reviewed from the newly installed cameras.
concentrated hydrogen peroxide is not a common household disinfectant. "Common" H2O2 is a 3% solution. IIRC, hair salons use about 30-35% solution. Neither is "concentrated".
Liquid rocket fuel oxidizer, OTOH...
The Hydrogen Peroxide is the same product used as antiseptic, but in space and rockets it is used at 80% to 98% strength, I use it at 90% and I produce my own peroxide.
The Hydrogen Peroxide is the only product used in the reaction, this places it in the monopropellant liquid rocket fuel classification.
The Hydrogen Peroxide contrary to many false information I read in the web, is a clear liquid, non volatile, non explosive, non inflammable and non toxic product that looks like water but with a great amount of oxygen, that´s why in many languages it´s name is "oxygenated water", ...
note: This is info I cut & pasted; the "I" above is not me; I'm just posting it.
If his car was an old beat-up blue Lincoln Town Car, then it is still in the parking lot. It has one of the roofs that was not metal on the outside but kind of a leather like material -- I cannot think what they are called.
As for video cameras, I found what looks to be a new one installed at the SE corner of the end zone where students enter and also a new one in the parking garage as you leave -- at least they look new as they are black and around here black turns into grayish looking with the dirt blowing around. Could not find any at Gate 1; Gate 2 had one but it was pointed at the back of the ticket office not the gate; Gate 3 and 7 -- couldn't find any but will go back tomorrow to see if walking around I can see more. Very few people around campus this afternoon and frankly didn't want to stand out.
Looks to me like the video surveillance in the stadium was for ticket offices where they would have money and tickets not for the gates. The student gate definitely has one today -- all nice and new looking.
Can confirm a lot of ME students in Parkview Apartments that love to stare. Parking lot is pretty full at the Islamic Center.
End of my report from OU!
Yeah...right next to the White House tape showing Vince Forster being carried out in a rolled up carpet.
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