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French bashing alive and well in parts of America
Daily Times ^ | October 09, 2005

Posted on 10/10/2005 10:41:11 AM PDT by BulletBobCo

Two years after relations between the US and France soured over the Iraq war, French-bashing in America appears alive and well in light of a recent ad campaign by a fast-food chain linking France and cowardice.

The ad by the Subway chain touted a cordon bleu chicken sandwich with the words “France and chicken, somehow it just goes together”. A photo of a chicken dressed like Napoleon accompanied the advertisement.

Subway ran the ads in about 10 US states for nearly a month and pulled them in September following an outcry by members of the French expatriate community and other customers offended by the racist undertone.

Mark Bridenbaker, a spokesman for Subway, which has outlets in France, defended the campaign telling AFP it was aimed at lauding French cuisine.

“The perfect match of French cuisine and the Subway chicken... that was the intent of this advertising,” he said. “But once we realized that people were taking offense, we removed everything from stores right away.”

Others, however, say the ads are evidence French bashing has become well-ingrained and perfectly acceptable among a segment of the American population.

They say that though diplomatic relations are on the mend following the spat over Iraq, and French fries, rather than “freedom fries”, are back on restaurant menus, anti-French sentiment still runs high in parts of the country.

“Saying that the French are dirty or cowards is a little bit like saying the sky is blue. Nobody is going to contest it,” said Denis Chazelle, a long-time French resident of the Washington area who created a web site in March to try and dispell misconceptions about his native country and who led the campaign against the Subway ads.

“I think (French bashing) is worse now than it was two years ago because, although it’s not as relentless as it was, it has become a lot more accepted and part of the landscape,” he added.

Chazelle said had Subway run an ad campagin targetting Mexicans, Israelis or Italians, it would have faced a boycott and management heads would have rolled.

“But if it concerns the French, it’s no big deal,” he said. “People here can say they hate the French without blinking an eye or an afterthought.”

Marc Saint-Aubin du Cormier, another French native who created a website to monitor anti-French sentiment in the United States and Canada, agrees.

“There is a kind of anti-French streak in the background of the culture of America,” he told AFP.

He pointed to several recent examples including comments by a talk show host for the Fox news channel who derided French aid in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Another Fox commentator lamented a day before the July 7 terrorist attacks in London that the International Olympic Committee had “missed a golden opportunity” because, if France had been selected to host the 2012 Olympics, terrorists would “blow up Paris, and who cares?”

Chazelle and Cormier said one reason such comments largely go unnoticed is because the French expatriate community in the United States is fairly small and has no active lobby groups.

They said though they were heartened by the fact their action against the Subway ads paid off, although they believe they face an uphill battle in changing negative public opinion about France.

“I am not very optimistic,” Chazelle said. “I think French bashing is here to stay.” afp


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1 posted on 10/10/2005 10:41:20 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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2 posted on 10/10/2005 10:43:42 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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3 posted on 10/10/2005 10:44:48 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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Chazelle and Cormier said one reason such comments largely go unnoticed is because the French expatriate community in the United States is fairly small and has no active lobby groups.

But the CIA states that France has more agents (spies) than China in the US.

4 posted on 10/10/2005 10:45:10 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: BulletBobCo
Subway ran the ads in about 10 US states for nearly a month and pulled them in September following an outcry by members of the French expatriate community and other customers offended by the racist undertone.

The Frogs are a race?

5 posted on 10/10/2005 10:45:46 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: BulletBobCo

And try some French's mustard with that chicken sandwich:
tasty, fat-free and------yellow!


6 posted on 10/10/2005 10:47:00 AM PDT by tumblindice (`Zey call me mellow yellow, mon dieu!' Stop peeking on us you, you . . . boolies)
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To: BulletBobCo
heads would have rolled how french
7 posted on 10/10/2005 10:47:05 AM PDT by SF Republican
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To: ncountylee

I love a good Frogistan whine. It is just wrong to be french.


8 posted on 10/10/2005 10:47:29 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Anything a Politico says, "Trust Me." I put my hand on my wallet and slowly back away.)
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9 posted on 10/10/2005 10:47:37 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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other customers offended by the racist undertone.

"Racist?" What? Are the chickens upset with being linked to France? Exactly what "race" are we discussing here? The "French" race, or the "Chicken" race?

Jeez!

Mark

10 posted on 10/10/2005 10:47:42 AM PDT by MarkL (I didn't get to where I am today by worrying about what I'd feel like tomorrow!)
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To: BulletBobCo

ribbit.


11 posted on 10/10/2005 10:48:09 AM PDT by I'm ALL Right!
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To: BulletBobCo
The signature block says it all.

Il n'y a pas d'honte être français. Il y a seulement l'honte dans rester de français.
(There is no shame in being French. There is only shame in staying French.)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

12 posted on 10/10/2005 10:48:18 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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13 posted on 10/10/2005 10:48:52 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BulletBobCo
offended by the racist undertone

I didn't know the French were a separate race.

14 posted on 10/10/2005 10:48:53 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: BulletBobCo

People don't really hate ALL French. What they hate are the leftist snobs who dominate Paris and other large urban / media centers in France ... who most assuredly DO hate America. Put differently, we "hate" those who show they hate US.


15 posted on 10/10/2005 10:49:13 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: BulletBobCo

I don't recall an outcry over The Simpson's reference to "cheese-eating surrender monkeys." Suddenly the Fronch have become so thin-skinned. Go figure.


16 posted on 10/10/2005 10:49:17 AM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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“France and chicken, somehow it just goes together”

ROTFLMBOAS! I'm going there after work for supper just to show them my support for this commercial.

17 posted on 10/10/2005 10:49:31 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: BulletBobCo
other customers offended by the racist undertone.

They're also stupid. French isn't a race. It's a nationality.

18 posted on 10/10/2005 10:49:39 AM PDT by VRWCmember (hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative, and loaded with vitriol about everything liberal.)
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To: BulletBobCo

The ad by the Subway chain touted a cordon bleu chicken sandwich with the words “France and chicken, somehow it just goes together”. A photo of a chicken dressed like Napoleon accompanied the advertisement.

Subway ran the ads in about 10 US states for nearly a month and pulled them in September following an outcry by members of the French expatriate community and other customers offended by the racist undertone.

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LOL!! Sorry I missed the ad, think I'll go buy a Subway sandwich today just on GP.

Though it must be really embarrassing for them.

I mean, they did eventually surrender to ... (sorry, can't even say it)

Too funny.


19 posted on 10/10/2005 10:51:01 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: BulletBobCo
You know how you can tell an authentic French flag?

The red and white stripes attach with velcro.

20 posted on 10/10/2005 10:51:14 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: Dog Gone
...I didn't know the French were a separate race.

Homo invertebratus.

21 posted on 10/10/2005 10:51:16 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: BulletBobCo
You know how you can tell an authentic French flag?

The red and blue stripes attach with velcro.

22 posted on 10/10/2005 10:51:22 AM PDT by killjoy (Real Men Love Bush)
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To: BulletBobCo
The ad by the Subway chain touted a cordon bleu chicken sandwich with the words “France and chicken, somehow it just goes together”.

And now we have a nice French Whine to go with it

23 posted on 10/10/2005 10:52:00 AM PDT by tophat9000 (This bulletin just in:"Chinese's Fire Drill's" will now be known as "New Orleans' Hurricane Drill's")
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To: MarkL
"Racist?" What? Are the chickens upset with being linked to France? Exactly what "race" are we discussing here? The "French" race, or the "Chicken" race?


24 posted on 10/10/2005 10:52:00 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Clint N. Suhks

25 posted on 10/10/2005 10:52:18 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: BulletBobCo
“Saying that the French are dirty or cowards is a little bit like saying the sky is blue. Nobody is going to contest it,” said Denis Chazelle, a long-time French resident of the Washington area who created a web site in March to try and dispell misconceptions about his native country and who led the campaign against the Subway ads.

“I think (French bashing) is worse now than it was two years ago because, although it’s not as relentless as it was, it has become a lot more accepted and part of the landscape,” he added.

Well just look how scared they are of a one-ball bicyclist who has already said he probably won't ride in their silly little race again.

26 posted on 10/10/2005 10:52:23 AM PDT by VRWCmember (hard-core, politically angry, hyperconservative, and loaded with vitriol about everything liberal.)
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FRENCH 'HYGIENE' EXPOSED
The dodgy hygiene habits of the French have been revealed in a new survey.

Only one-in-10 of our continental cousins regularly uses soap and one-in-25 never takes a bath or shower.

To make matters worse, one-in-33 never brush their teeth, according to a special report by the weekly magazine Le Point, which quizzed 10,000 people.

Rather than have a good wash, many French people simply use perfume and cosmetics to mask their smell.

Despite this, adults manage to spend between 48 and 56 minutes in the bathroom every day.

Of these, 14% make telephone calls, 8% sing and 6% smoke - and 1% admitted to eating there.

The report, called 24 Hours in France - An Unusual Portrait of France and the French, has not-surprisingly been criticised.

Pierre-Yves Gerbeau, the French-born former Millennium Dome chief executive, told the Daily Mirror: "This idea of the Frog who doesn't wash, has a baguette on his head and a string of onions around his neck is old hat.

"It's about as real as the Englishman in his pinstripe suit and bowler hat."

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13449126,00.html


27 posted on 10/10/2005 10:52:25 AM PDT by Sub-Driver (Unelect All NJ Politicians....)
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I'm sure in Frace, they partake in a fair amount of America bashing. So, who cares?


28 posted on 10/10/2005 10:52:28 AM PDT by pnome
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To: MarkL
The definition of "racism" has undergone quite a transformation over the years. Now it's defined as "discrimination or prejudice against any group revered by liberals based on anything."
29 posted on 10/10/2005 10:54:43 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: manwiththehands
Subway chain touted a cordon bleu chicken sandwich with the words “France and chicken, somehow it just goes together

I'll have to get one to encourage this truth in advertising.

30 posted on 10/10/2005 10:54:56 AM PDT by Jemian
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31 posted on 10/10/2005 10:56:19 AM PDT by Minnesocold (Truth itself is the one enemy against which liberalism cannot prevail. -Christopher Adamo)
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“France and chicken, somehow it just goes together"
That's an insult to the species. The chicken species that is. At least chickens have a purpose in life. I loathe the french so much that I cant even watch Casa Blanca anymore without wanting to wretch. I have more respect for Al Qaeda than the average frog b@stard.
32 posted on 10/10/2005 10:56:28 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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Race... species... No big difference, right?


33 posted on 10/10/2005 10:56:34 AM PDT by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: BulletBobCo
In one of those "strange but true" "believe it or not" occurances, France's national bird really is :


34 posted on 10/10/2005 10:57:51 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Mr. Mojo

When the French hate America, it's because they are "enlightened."

When Americans hate the French it's "racist."


35 posted on 10/10/2005 10:58:43 AM PDT by Sometimes A River (Serving on a Meals-on-Wheels program is NOT a qualification for a SC nominee. Call your Senators!)
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It's alive and well where I sit


36 posted on 10/10/2005 11:00:20 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Proud member of the Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club 1972-1973 and VA-93 Blue Blazers)
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To: Mr. Mojo
The Frogs are a race?

Not so much a race as a subspecies.

37 posted on 10/10/2005 11:01:05 AM PDT by Between the Lines (Be careful how you live your life, it may be the only gospel anyone reads.)
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To: BulletBobCo
The ad by the Subway chain touted a cordon bleu chicken sandwich with the words “France and chicken, somehow it just goes together”. A photo of a chicken dressed like Napoleon accompanied the advertisement.

Subway ran the ads in about 10 US states for nearly a month and pulled them in September following an outcry by members of the French expatriate community and other customers offended by the racist undertone.

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“Saying that the French are dirty or cowards is a little bit like saying the sky is blue. Nobody is going to contest it,” said Denis Chazelle, a long-time French resident of the Washington area who created a web site in March to try and dispell misconceptions about his native country and who led the campaign against the Subway ads. “But if it concerns the French, it’s no big deal,” he said. “People here can say they hate the French without blinking an eye or an afterthought.”

All I have to say is the Frenchies are responding in this way ---

To which I can only respond with ---


38 posted on 10/10/2005 11:01:51 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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39 posted on 10/10/2005 11:04:07 AM PDT by No Blue States
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40 posted on 10/10/2005 11:05:11 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: BulletBobCo
Of course, if you are French and want to act tough like an American gangsta, you can always buy one of these: http://www.anticon.biz/
41 posted on 10/10/2005 11:05:24 AM PDT by Buffettfan (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: Tribune7

Another strange but true factoid, Spain's ancient name `Espagna' is derived from 'rabbits running'. I read that somewhere so it must be true.


42 posted on 10/10/2005 11:05:33 AM PDT by tumblindice
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To: BulletBobCo

Two years after relations between the US and France soured over the Iraq war, French-bashing in America appears alive and well in light of a recent ad campaign by a fast-food chain linking France and cowardice.




I think the french-bashing should continue. What are they going to do? Surrender to us? The worst that could happen is they put their hands in the air...PU!


43 posted on 10/10/2005 11:05:40 AM PDT by trubluolyguy (Come to the darkside....we have cookies!)
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44 posted on 10/10/2005 11:06:00 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't like Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: BulletBobCo

French bashing is alive and well at my house.


45 posted on 10/10/2005 11:06:01 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Between the Lines

[[The Frogs are a race?]]

Yes, the tour de frog!


46 posted on 10/10/2005 11:07:43 AM PDT by Buffettfan (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: BulletBobCo

I love a good French bashing story! Thanks.


47 posted on 10/10/2005 11:09:23 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
LOLOL.


48 posted on 10/10/2005 11:09:35 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Minnesocold

Rules state that sign holder must accompany sign.

49 posted on 10/10/2005 11:11:03 AM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Acts 2:38

"When the French hate America, it's because they are 'enlightened'."

"When the Americans hate the French it's 'racist'."

Exactly. What the hell, call me a racist....I hate the French. They are stinking cowards void of common sense, and lack abilities in personal hygiene.


50 posted on 10/10/2005 11:13:03 AM PDT by Arpege92 ("I am happy, be it yourselves." - Pope John Paul II)
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