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Posted on 10/10/2005 1:05:39 PM PDT by Drew68
He would be a world of hurt if it was proven that any of the models or porn stars on any of his films or website where underage.
The porn industry is very maticulous about this, as they are with aids and STD's tests these days.
While Max's films are nasty, the women in these films are consenting adults and paid for their performances.
Most pron stars are part time prostitutes as well.
While I easily choose not to view Max's stuff because it does nothing for me, I don't like the government getting involved in this, unless, Max did have non-adults involved in his material.
I suppose it's only a matter of time before 3D animation gets so good, you can see a video of any sick thing you can imagine. What to do then. How about a chillingly lifelike digital cartoon of child rape? It will happen. What then? Just a weird, weird area to get into.
I used to draw cartoons. One time I drew a pretty raunchy one that I thought was funny. It had a woman--let me try to be careful here--receiving a male sheep, who might have been acting like a dog, if you get my meaning. The caption read "Mary had a little lamb." Should I have gotten busted for beastiality?
This is a public health issue. Urinating on other people is against the law. Anal sex with multiple partners lead to AIDS. If the feds don't get Max Hardcore first, then communicable diseases surely will. I'm hoping on the latter.
As is often said, maintaining free speech requires defending speech with which you object.
Poor choice of words.
I remember reading about some jurisdiction that went after the local video rental place for violating "community standards" for obscenity. The store owner simply said that he'd offer into evidence the names of all his customers who rented porn from him to show that a large segment of the community were, in fact, consumers of his offerings. The case was hastily dropped.
But what to do when they aren't really children, and they aren't really dying? What to do when it's all fictional? And how about when it becomes all digitized--no real people involved? I know this stuff is plainly what it is, but I still don't like the fed gubmint deciding what i can see, read, hear, think.
So all he needs is a good lawyer to point this out to prosecutors and it's a walk.
Being that no children are involved, it is not child porn.
Don't think so. Got a citation?
Are you kidding? The adult industry already employs legions of the best lawyers money can buy.
lol. I'll bet it was. I just don't like thought crime. I don't know about where you live, but where I live, the average corporate stooge male, married or not, gawks at anything female under 140# and spends half their lunchbreak talking about what they'd do to them, what they did to them, or what someone else supposedly did to them. (The remainder is spent on fantasy sports leagues.) Ppl have lustful, filthy thoughts all the time, as far as I can tell. You can't sweep it under the rug. Well, actually, that's all you can do. Keep it off Main St.
Thanks for the link. The one I found was in the rotten.com archives and was wholly inappropriate for this site.
Look, I agree that the goobermint should leave porn alone too. But a line has to be drawn somewhere. You'd think the porn industry would develop some "morals," so to speak, so that their material doesn't cross over into snuff filmmaking.
I'm all for raising the age of adult performers to 21 for starters, as most states require you to be 21 to purchase adult materials through the mail or online anyway.
Golden shower? don't tell me. another Hallmark Holiday event? A celebration for a newly minted senior at Dennys? I give up.
/sarcasm
I've never understood the kind of person who finds violent sex films like this exciting. Mainstream porn is one thing, but the sick garbage this guy puts out is seriously disturbing and makes me wonder about the mental health of the people who buy this crap.
Is that really the kind of country you want to live in?
Since I don't buy my material online or from catalogs, I always assumed one had to be 18. What states require you to be 21?
I buy mine in person and try to get a demonstration on how an item works from the girl behind the counter.
I'm with you on that one. Then again, I've never understood foot fetishists either.
Specious comparison and you know it.
Unfortunately that day is not to far off.
I don't worry about truthful evidence, I worry about made-up evidence.........
You said urinating on another person is against the law.
I and another have challenged your statement. It was not a specious comparison. You made a specific and direct statement. Now prove your claim to be true.
Yeah. Maybe we should have at least had a funeral for our Republic so more people would realize it was dead.
Not to people who equate wives with whores.
I challenge EEE to prove his statement correct. Thus far he has not.
Yeah yeah I know it's your right to view whatever you want in your house and I need to get a life. I'll just go back to watching Ozzie and Harriet now on my turn-knob television set with my 2.5 kids.
Exactly.
I don't like the FBI being turned into the morality police.
Unless a actual crime has been commmited, I don't want the FBI or local law enforcement involved in this. Period.
If Max takes a 22 year old consenting adult, dresses her up in a cheerleading outfit, and has sex with her on film, its not a crime.
As porno posts always do, this one brought out the libertarians. And, as always, they brought with them the usual cliches about the First Amendment and the nanny state and so on. The zinger is supposed to be, "Is this the sort of country you want to live in?"
Truth is, the kind of country that treats Max Hardcore material as worthy of protection is NOT the kind of country I want to live in. I hope they shut him down - and shut down anybody else inclined to follow his lead.
A line has been drawn. Under age actors are verbotten. Unwilling participants are verbotten. As are snuff flicks. I would add beastiality to that as an animal cannot be said to be able to give "consent" as it has no rational mind to do so with.
Acts of capitalism between CONSENTING ADULTS.
It might be icky to the vast majority of us, but that doesn't mean it should be illegal. And it certainly isn't the FedGovs job to be regulating it in any way.
Isn't Hardcore some sort of retired marine or something of that nature?
There is no federal law, but San Fran, Seattle, and other city ordinances all have public urination laws -
I'm getting my behind kicked on this thread. I concede that idiots such as Max Hardcore has the right to urinate, defecate, and choke women appearing as little girls.
Forest Hump? Splendor In the *ss?
Not my intent. Just stating my opinion. I don't watch that kind of stuff nor would I ever pay money for it. Consider it a boycott. ;-)
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Ah, for the good old days of the "Fabulous Dark Brothers" and Gerard Damiano.
I'm not typically one to say, "There ought to be a law!" because I do believe in free speech and M.H. isn't breaking any laws. If he is shut down, they'll go after Flynt next. Then Guccione. Then Hefner. I don't want to live in a "G-Rated" America.
I am disturbed that Max Hardcore was able to become quite wealthy selling the films he makes. That says more about the country we live in than the simple fact that he is allowed by law to make these films.
Closet (or practicing) pedophiles who hang out at the mall, loiter around junior high schools and skating rinks and buy YM magazine for their "daughters."
Just a guess.
Urination
Defecation
Fisting
Choking
Rough anal sex
Gagging
Sorry, I think it's at best silly (and, at worst, intentionally evil) to quote Tom Paine in defense of stuff like that. It's ACLU-think, and in my mind, that is anything but American.
Like I said, if you want the FBI to be the porn police, pass an Amendment.
Porn is a major item in "interstate commerce." It isn't necessary to pass an amendment to regulate it, any more than it is necessary to pass an amendment to regulate the shipment of dangerous chemicals across state lines.
Young women who find themselves in his films usually are new to the business and typically flee the industry after being subjected to the painful, wholly humiliating and degrading experience of working with this man.
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Why would they work for him then? I agree with his statement about wasting our taxpayer dollars entirely.
Could anyone really be named "Hardcore?"
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