Skip to comments.In Bombing At OU Stadium There Are More Questions Than Answers
Posted on 10/10/2005 1:12:42 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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Explosive Device Found at Los Angeles Apartment
Posted on 10/10/2005 2:13:03 PM PDT by .cnI redruM
An explosive device was detonated by the Los Angeles Police Department bomb squad outside of 527 Midvale Ave. on Friday afternoon.
A calm and quiet Westwood was briefly disrupted Friday afternoon when the Los Angeles Police Department bomb squad inspected and detonated an explosive device found within the Midvale Plaza apartment complex on the 500 block of Midvale Avenue.
After responding to a call made at 11:13 a.m., the bomb squad arrived at 527 Midvale Ave. to find "an improvised explosive device" in the building's open-air courtyard, said Grace Brady, a spokeswoman for the LAPD.
No injuries were reported, but authorities have been slow to release details about the incident and the device.
They were washing bits of bomber off bus windows.
I would presume shrapnel, if present, would have broken said windows.
The lack of shrapnel --- from an otherwise obviously smart (National Merit Scholar) kit ---- indicates "mere" suicide or premature explosion.
What sort of announcement does the author think should have been made? "May I have your attention, ladies and gentlemen. A suicide bomber has just exploded right outside the stadium. Please remain calm and go back to watching the game now." The ensuing stampede would have killed dozens, if not hundreds, of people.
Hey, they both begin with 'Pa' and have a lot of letters in common. So do 'ammonium' and 'aluminum'. For a reporter, that's close enough.
President Rush is going to make sure that Iran has a good election and that its former leader, Samuel Hasheem, is convicted of murder for killing all those Kurdmudgeons.
I wonder whatever happened to taking careful notes?
It's a fair question; I am open to the idea that the bomb was not fully assembled, possibly for getting-through-security purposes.
But I have read and heard that there are not metal detectors at the stadium --- although everyone and everything is subject to search --- but generally looking for outside food/booze.
Yeah, a bunch of mistakes there ... the roommate most certainly is Pakistani ... the fertilizer most certainly is ammonium nitrate and for sure, Hinrichs was not "stretched out" and lying on the bus bench--the writer even repeated it twice and nowhere has anyone reported anything like that, in fact, just the opposite. All had him seated upright, perhaps hunched over the backpack in his lap. Note references to the remains post-bomb, from people who saw the aftermath.
And he could have looked up what TATP is. If he had, or the AP reporter who wrote the story based on what the father said, had done that, he/they would have found that while TATP (TriAcetone TriPeroxide) is made from Hydrogen peroxide (not the the 3% solution used as a disinfectant!), acetone and some strong acid to catalyze the reaction, it isn't the same thing as Hydrogen Peroxide, any more than TNT is toluene, or ammonium nitrate is ammonia.
I'm wondering if the TATP he blew up with was originally intended to just be the primer in a bigger ANFO bomb
Sprinkle a bunch of aluminum powder into your ANFO and it will increase the force of the bomb, and make a much more exciting fireball as well. So would iron, even iron oxide (rust!).
Because the term "suicide" is being used to deflect attention from the possibility that it was part of what was intended to be a Islamakazi attack. Even possibly no kind of suicide at all, but rather a straight up terrorist attack, using improvised explosive devices, plural, in which the perps intended not be around when the devices went BOOM.
It's also reported that the bomb contained a directional device, or shaped charge effect. It's possible, and even likely, the bomber was on the side away from direction that constituted the main direction of the explosion. There's still be enough impulse to to tear the bomber apart, but most or all of the nails, or ball bearing or whatever, would go the opposite direction.
Give the guy a break. He's writing from Nebraska. Pakistani, Palestinian. Some Islamic country starting with "Pa". :) OTOH, maybe one of the other roommates reported, but not confirmed, AFAIK, may have indeed been a Pali.
And there is no evidence that a Coptic Christian family that was ritually murdered according to Qu'ranic procedure was killed by Muslims, even though they had had death threats against them by Muslims for defaming Islam
"...Hinrichs attempted to buy aluminum nitrate from a Norman feed store. Aluminum nitrate was used in the bombs at the Oklahoma City federal building..."
Ah, that would be ammonium nitrate...
The reporter flunked chemistry.
you say potato, I say potaughto,
you say tomato, I say tomaughto,
Very possible (although shaped charges are tricky --- have dealt with them in the oil field (making perforations is casing); they are not for amateur --- perhaps this proves the point!)
But we would know if there is shrapnel or not.
"Holes in trees" sounds like insects to me. I've seen shrapnel's effects. It tumbles and weaves and wobbels. It tears stuff up -- it doesn't leave clean holes (although, in fairness I have never seen ballbearing shrapnel).
And, you know, it's all ballbearings these days.