Posted on 10/11/2005 2:23:12 AM PDT by LibertyRocks
(Atlanta, Georgia-AP) Oct. 10, 2005 -
Police are investigating suspicious bottles found in a courtyard at Georgia Tech.
The discovery of the bottle containing chemicals led to the evacuation of two dormitories, but students have been allowed back into the buildings.
No serious injuries were reported after the devices were found by a janitor this morning. Officers later found at least two more devices fashioned from plastic bottles.
The worker who found the bottle was picking up trash. He was taken to a clinic for evaluation.
Spokeswoman Amelia Gambino says about 100 students were evacuated from Cloudman and Glenn dormitories. Authorities notified the Department of Homeland Security.
Police are trying to determine what substance was in the bottles.
Ping for a new article about GA Tech - This one is by the AP and is absolutely outrageous. They refuse to even mention that the devices found at GA Tech were explosive devices - just plastice bottles w/ Chemicals!!! I honestly can't believe the audacity of the AP at this point.
If these incidents keep happening at our college campuses and anyone ends up getting hurt the AP will be complicit in the crimes, IMHO. Word needs to get out and our students need to be warned to at the very least keep their eyes and ears open!!!
Yeah, two colleges. I wonder how many others are targeted?
Yeah, no clue about what these 'devices' were supposed to do. Go boom? Create poison gas?
Here's what's being reported out of Tampa, FL:
Terrorist Act on GA Campus - http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=19817
Atlanta - Three explosive devices found in a courtyard between two Georgia Tech dormitories on the East Campus Monday morning were part of a "terrorist act," an Atlanta police official said.
One of the devices exploded, injuring the custodian who found them inside a plastic bag. Two others were detonated by a bomb squad.
The custodian suffered ringing to the ears and was treated at a local hospital. The events led to a temporary evacuation Monday morning.
"It is a terrorist act at this point and depending on the outcome of the investigation it potentially could become a federal violation as well," said Major C.W. Moss of the Atlanta Police Department.
The custodian found the three devices about 9 a.m. in a plastic-type garbage bag, Moss said. When he picked up the bag, one exploded, as it was designed to do when handled. The explosives were made up of chemicals placed inside plastic bottles and could have seriously injured someone, officials said. Numerous agencies were on the Georgia Tech campus to search for suspects.
"It will be a joint investigation between the Atlanta Police Department, the Georgia Tech Police Department, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force. Every possible lead will be followed," said Major Moss.
About 100 students were evacuated from the Cloudman and Glenn dormitories, according to school spokeswoman Amelia Gambino
Actually 3 colleges now...
1.) OU Bombing
2.) GA Tech
and
3.) Midvale, CA - 2 to 3 blocks from UCLA
See the article about this one here:
http://www.dailybruin.ucla.edu/news/articles.asp?id=34408
BTW: Here is the email address of the person that posted this article at this station. I don't know how responsible she is as far as deciding what gets put up, but this is ridiculous...
Posted 10:05pm by Chantelle Janelle
mailto: cjanelle@wistv.com
Here is the page listing contact info for the reporting staff at this station. I can't find anything about the management...
http://www.wistv.com/global/category.asp?c=2466
This is a perfect example of irresponsible reporting if I've ever seen one. I'm still tracking down info for the AP in GA.
AP Bureau for Atlanta, GA Contact Info:
(I'm assuming this is out of the Atlanta Bureau as that's where GA Tech is located)
Atlanta
Centennial Tower
101 Marietta St. NW, Suite 2450
Atlanta GA 30303-2720
(404) 522-8971
524-4639 Fax/News
Please let them know that reporting like this is not going to do anyone any good...
Um..plastic bottles...sounds like a baking soda device.
This was discussed earlier here at FR.
Here's the link to the thread, it's rather long though:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1499882/posts
The police are calling these "soda bottle bombs". The Maj. of the Atlanta PD who was interviewed said that these devices could be very dangerous if enough of the chemicals were used. Also remember from the OU Bombing case that they confiscated 13 empty plastic bottles from his trunk....
You can hear the detonation of the other 2 devices (along with the rest of the bottles in the bag found) in the video links above.
Here is the text from the article I linked above:
Explosives Found Near Tech Dorms
Three explosive devices found in a courtyard between two Georgia Tech dormitories on the East Campus Monday morning were part of a "terrorist act," an Atlanta police official said.
One of the devices exploded, injuring the custodian who found them inside a plastic bag. Two others were detonated by a bomb squad.
The custodian suffered ringing to the ears and was treated at a local hospital. The events led to a temporary evacuation Monday morning.
"It is a terrorist act at this point and depending on the outcome of the investigation it potentially could become a federal violation as well," said Major C.W. Moss of the Atlanta Police Department.
Under Georgia state law, a terroristic act is described as the release of a "hazardous substance," specifically for "the purpose of causing the evacuation of a building" with "reckless disregard of the risk of causing such terror."
The custodian found the three devices about 9 a.m. in a plastic-type garbage bag, Moss said. When he picked up the bag, one exploded, as it was designed to do when handled. The explosives were made up of chemicals placed inside plastic bottles and could have seriously injured someone, officials said. Numerous agencies were on the Georgia Tech campus to search for suspects.
"It will be a joint investigation between the Atlanta Police Department, the Georgia Tech Police Department, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, the FBI and the Joint Terrorism Task Force. Every possible lead will be followed," said Major Moss.
About 100 students were evacuated from the Cloudman and Glenn dormitories, according to school spokeswoman Amelia Gambino.
"13 empty plastic bottles from his trunk...."
I misspoke with that statement. It is not known whether they were empty or filled with something. All that is known is that there were 13 plastic bottles taken.
Don't you dare suggest that Muslims were involved. And explosive? Some pesky kid probably just shook up a soda can for a prank.
C'mon, get with the program here!
LOL... (o:
Can't have people know the truth now can we?
Well I guess that means if you have baking soda and plasic bottles in your home, you can be charged with possessing "bomb-making" materials.
"You can hear the detonation of the other 2 devices (along with the rest of the bottles in the bag found) in the video links above."
I just watched and listened to that link. The "explosion" (report) that is heard on the video is the device used by the bomb squad to destroy the other two baking soda/vinegar devices. I have been off-line for a few days and had not heard anything about this so I thank for posting the article. My take is that it was some kids doing what kids do, being idiots and making little "noisemakers" (IMO), without any thought to the possible harm that it could (and did) cause.
-H
I made a "stink bomb" in chem 101 almost 30 years ago, and forced the whole east wing of the lab to evacuate. I just realized that I am an international terrorist. Should I turn myself in after all these years? Is there a statute of limitations?
HA! I have been tracking you all these years and now you have confessed. The gig is up. You will stand tall before the man and answer for this crime.
You could be absolutely correct. However, with the other devices found this week and the threat broadcast by Al Qaeda mentioning targetting kids and using a college-aged American as the spokesman it to me doesn't appear like a harmless prank. Personally, I'd rather err on the side of caution at this point and assume till proven otherwise that this could be a terrorist act (and not just as defined under GA law).
Also, if kids understand that there are serious consequences for these "pranks" (if that's what they are) then maybe there won't be as many "copycat" type situations. At the very least they shouldn't downplay this in the media.
"Um..plastic bottles...sounds like a baking soda device."
I agree. Chances are these "explosive devices" are nothing more than bored kids goofing off with vinegar and baking soda.
Not the smartest thing to do in today's climate, however.
Yup, baking soda and/or dry ice.
Now, while the OU bombing was/is a serious concern, this has all the earmarks of a boneheaded prank.
You had some great comments on the thread regarding this event yesterday. Thought you may wish to take a look at this article as well.
The guy set off several other bombs around town over the next several months, causing several large fires, before finally being caught. He ended up getting forty years in prison.
Granted we will have to wait for the lab results to come back regarding exactly what type of chemicals were used, but a "terrorism expert" (not sure who) was supposedly on FNC a few days ago and said that there are some types of "soda bottle bombs" that can be made with other chemicals (not dry ice, or acid) and that they can be extremely dangerous.
The devices in this case were "designed to explode when handled". In the fire safety report I read from the NJ Fire Dept. the "dry ice" and other common bottle bombs burst once pressure is built up - whether they are handled or not. This IMHO doesn't sound like a prank...
There is no fooling around with these things as far as I'm concerned. I too have had personal experience as far as pipe bombs are concerned. Some kids threw one on my front lawn a few years ago - thank God they didn't make it right in that case either.
Please see the comments at post #24. I humbly disagree that this was merely a prank. Although I will happily eat crow if I'm proven wrong about this.
May or may not have been posted
Device found yesterday at QT on Satellite Blvd, Duluth.
(Metro Atlanta for those not familar)
That was yesterday-
here is video
http://mfile.akamai.com/12949/wmv/vod.ibsys.com/2005/1010/5079533.300k.asx
If link does not work go to :
http://www.wsbtv.com/index.html
Follow link to video on right.
At about the same time (in college, of course) I was filling weather balloons with air and stove gas (methane), attaching a fuse and enough weight to keep them from climbing too fast, and letting them go from the roof of my apt building in Boston. One exploded about 1/2 way up the Prudential Building, another one sunk into an alley in Roxbury and blew up. At that point we figured we'd better stop.
The bottle did blow up. Lucky for the maintenance guy. He picked them up with big tongs. I live in Georgia. I hope this is a student prankster, but the police are treating it as a terrorist act.
These were not that type. My brother is a state policeman at Georgia Tech...These thngs were made to go off when handled. The person meant to kill/maim someone- this was no innocent prank.
This sounds like he was taken for a mental evaluation. That's what I thought when I read it. Then you say the bottles exploded, which would require a little more intensive "evaluation."
Unbelievable!
strange that it occured again at a school. Sounds like the left is getting what they want...
WIS TV is in Columbia, South Carolina. Not Georgia.
Even if this were a college student prank, believe that the bad guys are watching the response. The minimal media response and public concern over the Oklahoma bomb (student blows self up) are notable. In our race not to offend people, it seems that Islamic extremist involvement is immediately discounted without a seemingly thorough investigation. The officials do not want to panic the public. I remain concerned that the terrorists are using these responses and American political correctness to plan their next attack.
Look for a mall or maybe a University. However, upsetting the university student environment will not achieve the desired terrorist effect. Right now, the vast majority of higher education students and faculty are anti-war and liberal. Attacking them might change their views. A mall, on the other hand, would strike at the heart of capitalism (assuming that Wall Street is too hard of a target currently, that is, until such time as the terrorists have a viable bio or chem weapon).
Watch these events closely, and regardless of who is responsible, the terrorists are watching our response. If we randomly implement a variety of security measures, it will extend the planning timeline and just maybe, we will be successful overseas in removing funding, eliminating active terrorist participants (willing suicide bombers with the requisite knowledge of English), and interrupting their leadership to keep the terrorist organizations in disarray. The long-term goal is to change the opinions of the generation of people who think that what the terrorists are doing is OK.
Best regards to all.
I sure hope you don't live near me!! Bet that got a lot of attention when the punks put it in your yard! Wow!!!
- 1 plastic 2-liter bottle with cap
- crushed up dry ice
- water
Directions: Put dry ice in bottle, add a small amount of water, and screw the cap back on.
Set on the ground. Step back and wait until the expanding gas ruptures the plastic bottle with a loud "bang".
This is a kids' prank that's been going on for at least 20 years or so. There are a lot of kids at college, and it's a new semester.
Don't be too quick to presume the worst. Hopefully, it's just a college prank.
Ping
My God, I've got a number of empty plastic bottles in the recycling bin in my garage! I hope nobody finds them and calls the bomb squad!
If this is the best terrorists can do, then I laugh in their faces. Good grief! A 10 year-old could make a bomb like this.
If this is the best terrorists can do, then I laugh in their faces. Good grief! A 10 year-old could make a bomb like this.
Yeah these were probably frat boy bottle bombs-"ringing ears". Notice how they label this terrorism, yet OU bombing gets zero attention...
Go figure.
These are the networks of campuses and mosques scattered everywhere in this country.
Many insightful people over the decades have opined that the Viet Nam war was lost not on the battlefield, but on the campuses and in the streets of the U.S. However, unlike the Viet era, the radical left will not utilize the tactics of yesteryear, i.e., riots, marches, torchlight rallies and burning administration buildings down.....except as diversionary tactics.
More sophisticated and subtle tactics will be employed to wreak terror and death. Universities will be used not only as targets, but as bases.....enabled by the existence of radical professors (Sami-al-Arian), lax diversity-focused presidents, regents and administrators, hormone-driven student leaders who are Che Gueverra wannabees, implanted foreign jihadist "students", alienated loners (Johnny Jihads), chemistry lab thieves, homegrown traitors, genetic anarchists, professional revolutionary students, and easily-brainwashed idealists living far away from the stability of home.
Except to the naive, our institutes of higher learning are no longer the ivy-covered homes of the saddle-shoed Andy Hardy and his sweatered girlfriends. There is every kind of person you can think of, patriotic, good, bad, indifferent and twisted.....including students up to the ages of 70. Ask anyone who works for a state university what he sees and hears every day.
We're already seeing the first signs of universities and colleges being used by shadowy terrorist cells here in the U.S. Three explosive incidents in a row at different schools in the past week or two is no quirky coincidence.
I personally believe what we are seeing are some tentative practice runs to carefully gauge the response and reactions of schools, federal and local law enforcement, the media and the public.
Jihadists have infinite patience and we have seen in 9/11 how they carefully study and set up missions over a relatively long period of time.
Right now, the reaction to the recent college incidents appears in general to be ho-hum. However, this is probably due in large part to government and media manipulation and secrecy. The public does not have enough information to connect any dots, so it shrugs its collective shoulders.
What is scary is that government and media manipulation and secrecy become part of the terrorist problem in itself.
Leni
Osama bin Gyver?
As the safety officer for a college chemistry department, I have WMDs lurking in my stockroom. I'm still waiting for Hans Blix to show up.
Ok, Now my suspicions have been confirmed. The MSM will do anything to keep any suspected incidents involving an explosive device quiet. With exception of anything that might just be a threat to their beloved NYC or perhaps LA.
Yes it is quite possible that the incident at GA tech was some twisted weirdo with a very displaced sense of humor. But the MSM could at least mention the response by DHS, and what actually happened. Can't you just see their Pear Harbor headline if it happened today.
" PEARL HARBOR ENJOYS RECORD NUMBER OF VISITING JAPANESE MILITARY. NAVY SHIPS SINK DUE TO ACCIDENTAL RELEASE OF INCENDIARY BALLAST FROM RISING SUN AIRPLANE.
I have been thinking the same thing. These incidents at different college campuses are good training grounds for those who want to know how seriously we would respond to a threat or to an event.
"baking soda/vinegar devices."
How could a janitor sustain injury or even ringing in the ears from baking soda and vinegar in a plastic bottle?
Dry ice and any "warm Liquid" works well to.
Did anything say the substance was green?
When Penn Station was evacuated last week, a bottle contained green substance.
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