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FBI and other(sic) shed light (SPIN ALERT)
The Oklahoma Daily (OU) ^ | October 13, 2005 | OK Daily Editorial Staff

Posted on 10/13/2005 6:27:39 AM PDT by LibertyRocks

OUR VIEW: 10/13 October 13, 2005

The FBI broke its silence Wednesday and announced, among other things, that a press conference summarizing their investigation is on the way.

As of now, they are “more and more convinced” that Joel Hinrichs was acting alone when he blew himself up on the South Oval Oct. 1. They have found no connection between Hinrichs and any terrorist organization, and dispelled rumors that Jihadist materials were found in Hinrichs’ apartment.

Still, we know that some people will put a lot of effort into contradicting the FBI’s analysis, facts be damned.

But U.S. Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., confirmed the FBI has told him the same thing.

And OU President David L. Boren sat down with The Daily Wednesday to discuss the situation. He, too, confirmed that it is (and has been) widely believed by the FBI and those closest to the investigation (himself included) that several claims being perpetuated on the Internet and talk radio stations remain unfounded and false.

We agree. We have agreed. Now we know who agrees with us.

The FBI. The president of OU. A U.S. representative.

Of course, they could all be lying. They could be conspiring to set up an elaborate scheme allowing terrorists the chance to escape punishment because ... ummm ... because the last time terrorists attacked the United States it worked out quite poorly for the current administration?

Right.

Unfortunately, there are several things that will never be known about Joel Hinrichs: whether he intended to kill himself on that bench, or whether he was headed somewhere to cause harm.

Causing harm wouldn’t have been difficult. Hours before the game or hours after the game. People were everywhere. But was he trying to? Was he planning to? Did his bomb accidentally go off? We can’t know. No one can.

What we can and do know is what the rumor-mills inherently must ignore for their theories to have any footing at all.

It must be believed Hinrichs tried to enter the stadium. It must be believed Hinrichs possessed Jihadist materials; that he owned a prayer rug, had frequented a local mosque, had all of those evil intentions in his head that can’t be confirmed or denied.

But there is no proof that he had any of those things, and we have put our thoughts about it on paper several times now.

We have provided the public with the information we know. And unless something new develops, this story will slowly fade away, just as it should.

Unfortunately, we are well aware that some people won’t believe the FBI, Boren or Cole. They don’t believe us. For whatever reason, they want to believe these theories, and, with the Internet, anyone can find anything to support what he or she wants to believe.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: coverup; fbi; hinrichs; normanbombing; oubombing; spin
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To: mind freaker; All
How is it that I knew after I read this post and clicked on the poster that he would already be banned?

Might it be my First Edition VRWC Decoder Ring?

Nam Vet

41 posted on 10/13/2005 8:33:29 PM PDT by Nam Vet ("I was present at the birth of a political jihad.")
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To: LibertyRocks
Now who would think there might be any motive for the OU paper to carry an article, editorial or otherwise, which marches in lockstep with the 'official' results of the investigation. Had the investigation revealed that there was/is an active terror cell on campus, no doubt Boren and the school paper would be vociferously decrying the investigation.

For the same reason camous crime is kept pretty darned quiet on campuses all over, mommy and daddy want to send their little nipper to a safe school. Not safe?--and the exodus begins.

No one would suspect that money would be a motive on the part of the school, far and beyond the take at the gate for football, but for research funds, tuition and fees, and those wonderful grants from private entities, industry, and alumnae.

Nothing to see here, move along folks.

Were there no accounts to the contrary, in this instance credible accounts from people who have been around this site for a while, and a number of official statements which simply do not flange up with the idea of a suicide, much less a lone suicide, then we'd all shut up and be on to writing vanities about the umpteenth tiddlywinks championship, or just carping about the latest SCOTUS pick.

The school paper echoes the administration's official stance? Geee... Whooda thunk?

42 posted on 10/13/2005 8:40:29 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: LibertyRocks
Now who would think there might be any motive for the OU paper to carry an article, editorial or otherwise, which marches in lockstep with the 'official' results of the investigation. Had the investigation revealed that there was/is an active terror cell on campus, no doubt Boren and the school paper would be vociferously decrying the investigation.

For the same reason camous crime is kept pretty darned quiet on campuses all over, mommy and daddy want to send their little nipper to a safe school. Not safe?--and the exodus begins.

No one would suspect that money would be a motive on the part of the school, far and beyond the take at the gate for football, but for research funds, tuition and fees, and those wonderful grants from private entities, industry, and alumnae.

Nothing to see here, move along folks.

Were there no accounts to the contrary, in this instance credible accounts from people who have been around this site for a while, and a number of official statements which simply do not flange up with the idea of a suicide, much less a lone suicide, then we'd all shut up and be on to writing vanities about the umpteenth tiddlywinks championship, or just carping about the latest SCOTUS pick.

The school paper echoes the administration's official stance? Geee... Whooda thunk?

43 posted on 10/13/2005 8:40:37 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: LibertyRocks

The writing style of the above editorial is extremely odd. It reminds me of something in "Brave New World" - (which I haven't read for years, so the details are fuzzy) - but in the book some kind of announcements, basically propaganda/subliminal stuff was fed to people to keep them "docile". This is exactly like that.

Kind of creepy.


44 posted on 10/13/2005 8:45:11 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: LibertyRocks

What a load of sh**.


45 posted on 10/13/2005 8:53:11 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (No amnesty needed...My ancestors proudly served. [remodel of an old '70s bumper sticker])
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To: All; little jeremiah

I agree... I'm right in the middle of comparing OU's most recent article, to the AP article published by Channel Oklahoma (KOCO-TV Ch. 5) several hours ago. You may remember this is the station that pulled one of their video reports and instead have followed the "official line" as far as this story is concerned.

The articles look remarkably similar. Like they were both written by the same person... I wonder if the AP, KOCO, and OU are all in it together at this point - all the information coming from ONE SOURCE (BOREN?). This is getting pretty sickening... and yes, VERY CREEPY!!!


46 posted on 10/13/2005 8:58:56 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: spunkets

"So, was there shrapnel in the psycho's bomb?"

No. I have a class across the road from where he died. I visited the site less than 48 hours afterwards. No shrapnel damage to the tree about 20 feet away, nor to the aluminum lamp-post about 15 feet away. I posted photos of the site on another thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1495058/posts?page=4408#4408

They did have a couple of cracked windows, which had been replaced, according to the OUPD cop I talked to at the site.


47 posted on 10/13/2005 9:03:44 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: All

I was mistaken about the KOCO/AP/OU connection spoken of above - at least in regards to that specific article today... The article I was comparing was published in The Oklahoman, and is cited in the AP article as the source of the comments.

That one got me excited for a minute... thought I might be able to prove a DIFFERENT conspiracy! LOL


48 posted on 10/13/2005 9:07:24 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: Old Student

Thanks for the reminder and link to your post. I wonder who Mark got his info from? Do you believe the tree you looked at is the same tree that he mentioned in the post at his blog?


49 posted on 10/13/2005 9:09:39 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: LibertyRocks

There is only one tree that is *right there* and it is pretty large.


50 posted on 10/13/2005 10:01:42 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: LibertyRocks

There is only one tree in that location. The bark is pretty rough, and it does have insect holes in it, but no shrapnel marks. Particularly any that look like it was hit with nails, as he apparently said.


51 posted on 10/13/2005 10:03:42 PM PDT by Old Student (WRM, MSgt, USAF(Ret.))
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To: Old Student

Thanks I appreciate your response.

Just for the record here is what Mr. Tapscott first reported in regards to the tree and the holes... He did not say nails...

"Tapscott's Copy Desk has also learned that a tree near where Hinrichs' bomb detonated displays a number of small round holes and some areas of a metallic substance. The holes and substance are only on the side facing the bench on which Hinrichs was seated when the bomb detonated. The holes appear to be about the size of the head of 16 penny nail."

and here is Tapscott's response to the blogger who said there were no holes:
"After reading Acorns' post, closely examining the photos of the tree on his site and talking with my researchers in Norman, I stand by my previous post. There are indeed numerous holes in the tree, just as Tapscott's Copy Desk described them, and they are clearly visible in the top photo on Acorns' site."

Even if we can cross this particular item off the list of holes in the official story (no pun intended) there are still many other, much more significant things to examine, IMHO.

Again, thanks for the link to your pictures. (o:


52 posted on 10/13/2005 10:28:09 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: Rte66; Old Student; spunkets

Thanks Rte66! I appreciate the input! Also see #52 for a clarification to what Mr. Tapscott posted on his blog...

I'll include OldStudent's comments about the holes, the confirmation on the broken windows, along with your confirmation of the "lone tree"(LOL) in my summary either later tonight or tomorrow when I next update.

Now, if only trees could talk... (o;


53 posted on 10/13/2005 10:34:09 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (OUBombing summary (UPDATED 10/13) @ http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com/)
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To: LibertyRocks; Shadow5644; Alabama MOM; Calpernia; Velveeta; jerseygirl; WestCoastGal; jer33 3; ...

Liberty Rocks, has pulled out a few facts and thoughts on the OU bomb, interesting and will make you really think about the truths of this one.

Ping


54 posted on 10/14/2005 12:37:52 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (Lavender Essential Oil, should be in first aid kit,uses: headaches, sinus,insect bites,sore muscles)
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To: LibertyRocks

This is the typical CYA agenda. Got to protect the university administration, students and their families so everyone can sleep at night. We will ultimately pay for the MSM trying to keep this quiet.


55 posted on 10/14/2005 5:58:48 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: LibertyRocks

Thanks for the ping on this...the Freepers have done a better job than this newspaper in uncovering facts.

So now we're rumor mongers, although the questions we raised, the eye-witness account of the OU worker who turned Joel away, the large amount of explosives, the radical MSA connection, etc...should just be dismissed?

Why? More questions than answers remain. Sealed warrant? For what reason?

It is illogical to suggest that Joel was acting alone in a lone suicide bid.

I too think that this case is being dismissed and covered up.


56 posted on 10/14/2005 6:40:30 AM PDT by milford421
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To: Strategerist
I thin "Spin Alert" is coming to mean "WAAAH this article isn't saying what I want it to" on FR.

Where have you gone, M. Rivero?
A forum turns its lonely eyes to you.
Woo woo woo.

57 posted on 10/14/2005 6:45:57 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Rte66; LibertyRocks; indcons; PhiKapMom

Again, attempts to discredit those who raise concerns over legitimate questions and refuse to accept the ridiculous cover stories that are force-fed to the masses.

Reminds me of this recent "hoax".

http://www.tkb.org/NewsStory.jsp?storyID=90522

DHS downplayed the NYC threat, yet quietly warned their loved ones not to ride the subways for the next few weeks.


58 posted on 10/14/2005 7:36:38 AM PDT by milford421
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To: Rte66; LibertyRocks; indcons; PhiKapMom

Lone suicide bomber, yet

"The Big 12 football conference is tightening security measures around its stadiums. Now I can't help but notice that these new security measures closely follow the suicide of Joel Hinrichs by explosion outside the football stadium in Oklahoma."

Above from www.jihadwatch.org - "New Stadium Security Policies Announced"


59 posted on 10/14/2005 7:40:15 AM PDT by milford421
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To: LibertyRocks

Haven't others who've posted here said that they saw the holes, too? No offense intended, but maybe this calls for a second opinion? Any volunteers? If not, I can volunteer, but it will have to wait for about a week.


60 posted on 10/14/2005 7:52:48 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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