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Anna at least once a day
the terrorists win!
Posted on 10/13/2005 10:04:33 AM PDT by Pikamax
Student's Suicide Sets Off Explosion Of Theories by Blogs
By RYAN CHITTUM and JOE HAGAN Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL October 13, 2005; Page B1
WHEN A JUNIOR at the University of Oklahoma blew himself up 100 yards away from a packed football stadium on Oct. 1, the 85,000 fans inside remained calm despite the loud explosion.
But the calm has given way to anxiety, as the college town of Norman, Okla., has struggled to separate fact from fiction in the apparent suicide of Joel Henry Hinrichs III.
Several bloggers have jumped to try to connect the dots in the case and speculate that the 21-year-old Mr. Hinrichs was a suicide bomber under the influence of Islam. The blog reports, in turn, have influenced local news coverage of the young man's violent death.
From the start, the case was prime territory for bloggers. The conservative blog Little Green Footballs titled one post "Jihad at the University of Oklahoma?" and wrote, "The story of the suicide bomber at the University of Oklahoma football stadium, determinedly ignored by mainstream media, is beginning to get interesting...."
(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...
Thank goodness the WSJ is here to tell us no one saw what they saw, heard what they heard, or experienced what they experienced....
The MSM coverup goes on, and on, and on...
Nothing here folks... move along.
Please return to your shopping.
We're not at war with Islam. Islam is our friend.
Double-plus good.
Baghdad Bob writing for the WSJ now?
And what mosque did Mr. Hinrichs roommate attend?
The MSM and government have been doing this since the "Beltway Sniper" shootings. It's like they want us to lose this war with the Islamo-fascists, and we will too if this continues. I know the MSM could care less but one would think the government would want Americans to rally against this new threat. I guess not since they do everything they can to prevent that from happening.
No kidding. Sending stuff like this down the memory hole partially depends on the willingness of the general citizenry to forget. Of course, the proles don't have to forget, because they never really knew...
And remember 'If you don't go shopping, the terrorists have won.'
But it's not suspicious?
"I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -Jacobim Mugatu.
Right. Don't forget to go shopping.
On the same day as the most recent Bali bombing, he has a mess of unaccounted time from last year (Where's Hinrichs?) and his roommate had a ticket to Algiers.
Pass those crazy pills around.
*PING*
Thought you might like to see this WSJ story about the Norman Oklahoma bombing.
Lies, lies, and more lies. This time from the WSJ. The university in the city I am located in announced new security precautions this morning for the football game on Saturday.
I am sure they are worried about "depressed students" too. /sarc
Thanks MizSterious for the ping.
For years Al Hunt hired reporters for the Wall Street Journal. It appears to be infected with his hirelings. These liberals live in a different world than the rest of us.
It was NOT A SUICIDE. It was a FAILED ATTEMPT to detonate the bomb in a crowded venue.
Hinrichs tried to buy ammonium nitrate TWO DAYS before his death.
If he just wanted to commit suicide, then why seek out more explosives than he already had to do himself in?
The timeline stinks to high heaven-- this kid was a killer.
A discerning reader, seeing all the facts laid out in one place like this, is far more likely to raise his eyebrows than to move on. Rather than agreeing with the putative premise of the article (that skeptics and questioners are alarmists), a reader might very well begin to wonder about the abundance of suspicious "coincidences" that OU and law enforcement so quickly dismiss. Curiosity piqued, the reader then spots the conveniently-included links to the blogs and clicks on them...
If I were a mainstream media journalist who smelled a story and wanted to find a way to get it out to a much wider audience (without drawing fire from the PC police) this is the way I'd do it.
...which is not to say that that's what the WSJ did. Either way, the public is served, imho.
We're all just those annoying little "bloggers" that the MSM is trying to make disappear. I don't think they're going to win this one unless we're asleep at the wheel (so to speak).
Good point. And at least it made it to the WSJ.
Exactly. The story has been elevated to discussion in a widely circulated, highly-regarded publication. The number of people who now know about the incident at all increased expotentially. The blogosphere is not available on every newsstand in the country, nor lying about airports, hotel lobbies, and doctors' waiting rooms.
"None of these claims are true: Mr. Hinrich's family, university officials and the Federal Bureau of Investigation say Mr. Hinrichs suffered from depression, and the explosion was an isolated event."
Well, this is a sentence that just begs to be parsed. As written, this means that "Mr. Hinrich's family, university officials and the Federal Bureau of Investigation say Mr. Hinrichs suffered from depression, and the explosion was an isolated event" are untrue claims.
Can the Wall Street Journal buy a semicolon, please? LOL.
None of the chatter
on the internet has changed
the way the mainstream
still does stories on
Flight 800. They won't change
til Jesus comes back.
I wish we could read the police reports, especially the ones regarding the search of Hinrichs' apartment. I think it's suspicious that the search warrant information has been sealed. Hinrichs is already dead, so releasing the information wouldn't jeopardize a criminal charge against him.
It's also suspicious that we haven't seen any photos of the scene of the explosion before it was cleaned up. Photos of that scene might allow us to estimate the power of the explosion. A powerful explosion would indicate that the bomb was designed to kill several people.
A depressed college student who simply wanted to kill himself wouldn't strap on a large home-made explosive charge and walk towards a packed football stadium. It's naive to think this was just a suicide. It is very reasonable to believe Hinrichs was trying to get into the stadium.
Perhaps it's just a coincidence that Hinrichs had a Pakistani roommate. But how do you explain Hinrichs' inquiry about the purchase of ammonium nitrate? And what are the chances that the roommate didn't see, or at least smell, the explosive ingredients.
I wish the FBI would simply say this is an on-going investigation, and they don't want to release any info yet.
The WSJ article and the statements by the O.U. president are an insult to anybody with common sense.
ROFL!
If we don't look at
Anna at least once a day
the terrorists win!
Maybe the MSM and the authorities are offended that we were able to get information and draw our own conclusions. That conclusion was that we are not swallowing the official line.
Not only do they lie, but they accuse us of being the liars. The MSM is throwing down the gauntlet. They are claiming that they tell the truth, and that the New Media is nothing but a bunch of delusional tinfoilers.
The vaunted MSM: Fake but accurate. Put that on their headstone. They are beyond pathetic, they are an utter disgrace, and they deserve the slow death they are enduring. Expect them to whine even more as their death throes continue.
I agree with you!
Can't have that! Repeat after me: Any connection to islam is purely coincidental...
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I really don't understand this at all. Look at the way they treated the NY threat this weekend and they were pretty sure that was bogus and then someone tries to pull off a bomb at a packed stadium for reals and they blow it off.
"These liberals live in a different world than the rest of us."
You're absolutely right, GD. Truer words have seldom been spoken before.
~ indcons
Who was is that said "I don't care what people print about me as long as they spell my name right." (As in, there is no such thing as bad PR).
I'm just proud to see a national MSM story that at least mentions the Pakistani roommae, shows the beard, etc. and mentions how QUICKLY Boren and the FBI said "This isn't terrorism."
I think this article is going to raise some people's eyebrows.
I agree. Between the lines, this story is not good for Boren and the "move on, nothing to see here" crowd.; especially given the increased credbility of blogs after Rathergate.
Ug, Al Hunt? One of my least favorite WSJ "journalists." That explains a lot.
You make an excellent point. This writing is so devious-looking that it would make any thinking person wonder--the key here is "thinking person"--so many just soak it up and don't think at all. They sometimes show up on these threads insisting that everything is, indeed, mere coincidence. Or that there is an "innocent" explanation.
Actually, there might be, but I haven't heard it yet.
Not only the FBI, but also president Boren. Boren has jumped out there with statements that, in some cases, seem just plain nuts, and in others, make him look like a liar. A simple "This is an ongoing investigation...etc." would have sufficed, and sounded a hekkuva lot better.
I find the sealing of the search warrant suspicious, too. Usually, they only do that if foul play is involved. If this is a simple suicide, they wouldn't need to do that.
And then this happens...
AP-Reporting College Station ....
AGGIE football practice was delayed nearly two hours today after a player reported finding an unknown white powdery substance on the practice field.
Coach Fran immediately suspended practice while police and federal investigators were called to investigate.
After a complete analysis, FBI forensic experts determined that the white substance unknown to the players was the goal line.
Practice was resumed after special agents decided the team was unlikely to encounter the substance again.
I saw my first photo of Hinrich today. Looks like a arab-wanabe to me. I'm wondering if he was a potential person like the guy hanging out with Osama somewhere around Pakistan.
Thanks for the ping indcons.....keeping watch.
"Ug, Al Hunt? One of my least favorite WSJ "journalists." That explains a lot."
Miss Marple cracked the code about Al Hunt and the WSJ.
Besides the horrible once a week op eds attacking GW and conservatives, he was in charge of the polls done by the WSJ re politics and so called American feelings.
Last but not least he was in charge of hiring the non business reporters.
They wouldn't want anybody to think that the billions we've poured into the Department of Homeland Security was wasted now, would they? Islamo terrorism will only be real to the WSJ when the bomb goes off outside Peter Kann's front door, not in flyover country.
"Brian Eckert, News 9's managing editor, said the channel doesn't use blogs as sources in reporting and stands by Ms. Pratt's report."
Either he attended the mosque or didn't. I have Ms Pratt's reporting only to rely on..At the very least I consider this bombing influenced by Islam..Trying to buy the fertilizer was just too coincidental.
He may have been depressed but this story is more than of a depressed student who only wanted to harm himself. I believe he wanted to harm others ala Islamofascists bombers.
He chose a roommate, acquaintances who may have influenced his thinking.
The manner he chose to kill himself is unusual if not unique to everyday depressed suicides.
Thank you for the ping Miz. I replied to this editorial quickly on another thread.
The one thing that jumped out at me in this editorial is the mention of the "rebuffing" of Hinrichs at the security gates. I don't believe that's been proven FALSE by anyone. At least I haven't seen it anywhere...
I also keep in mind that the MSM is probably interested in discredited bloggers at this point due to the whole "Rathergate" fiasco...
I agree that this editorial serves to generate more interest in the whole story - not less... Which is definitely a good thing.
Thanks for posting... I'll have to look into that report. (o:
While the editorial page of the WSJ is reasonably conservative, the actual reporting itself is only slightly less Lefty than the rest of the L/MSM.
I head he had a case of spontaneous combustion. Either that or it was a lover's quarrel. Anyway, I'm happy I'm being looked out for, and have moved along because there is nothing to see there.
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