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The Statistics on Homosexuality and its Effects
Catholic Apologetics International ^

Posted on 10/13/2005 10:08:23 AM PDT by Coleus

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1 posted on 10/13/2005 10:08:24 AM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus

Why is it that the more reprehensible and disgusting behavior is, the more it is revered and cherished by the left?


2 posted on 10/13/2005 10:12:41 AM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: Coleus

The NEA supports the gay agenda in spite of the effects on children.


3 posted on 10/13/2005 10:12:53 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

How many members of the NEA support a gay agenda because they have a personal interest promoting the freedom to prey on whoever they desire, no matter what the age or gender?


4 posted on 10/13/2005 10:23:40 AM PDT by jonascord (What is better than the wind at 6 O'clock on the 600 yard line?)
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To: Coleus

I wish insurance companies could act on these statistics,


6 posted on 10/13/2005 10:25:18 AM PDT by x5452
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To: ncountylee

I had this discussion with this uber-left person I know. This person is rabidly anti-religion, and pro-evolution (not that there is anything wrong with being either, but I wanted to point out that for this person, it's all evolution). So I asked this person, "all opinions aside, what evolutionary purpose does homoseuality serve?" The response, "you're such a homophobe," and then this person walked away.


7 posted on 10/13/2005 10:26:27 AM PDT by goonie4life9
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To: goonie4life9
what evolutionary purpose does homoseuality serve?" The response, "you're such a homophobe," and then this person walked away.

LOL and so accurate.

8 posted on 10/13/2005 10:28:41 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Spok

Really, is there any evil the left doesn't support and aid?


9 posted on 10/13/2005 10:30:12 AM PDT by Scourge of God (What goes here?)
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To: Coleus

WARNING: Explicit content.

It is my humble opinion that homosexuals are created by other homosexuals. So many tell the same story: "I was molested as a boy (some as young as four years old) by a man/priest/uncle…" etc. So these otherwise normally functioning hetero boys believe that when (if) they became sexually aroused through stimulation, they must have enjoyed it. Which means they must be homosexual.

The fact is that their equipment worked. Period. They became aroused because their equipment worked. That does not mean they enjoyed it. That does not mean they are homosexual. It means they were savagely violated by a pervert.


10 posted on 10/13/2005 10:30:44 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark
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To: Coleus

I'm sure this thread will be pulled soon. It offers way too much of an opportunity for rational discussion of a sensitive subject.


11 posted on 10/13/2005 10:35:11 AM PDT by highbottom (It's all Buah's fault)
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To: Coleus; All
Coleus, all, please go to this thread ( titled below ) and read this short account of a man who REFUSED to undergo a day of 'diversity training' at his place of employment...it is a MARVELOUS story-and he succeeded in his refusal, kept his job and stood by his beliefs!

I wonder if DIVERSITY TRAINING crappolla includes the 'downside' of homosexual behavior.

Here is the thread title, it was posted yesterday.

The Unholy Sacrament of Diversity Training The Remnant
^ | 10/05 | William Price

12 posted on 10/13/2005 10:35:43 AM PDT by Republic (Michael Schiavo LIED about having a college degree on his guardianship application,)
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To: Spok

Because it undermines the country and its government.


13 posted on 10/13/2005 10:41:33 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: All

BUMP to be read by EVERYONE!

This is why GLSEN wants to be with your children.


14 posted on 10/13/2005 10:57:04 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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The Unholy Sacrament of Diversity Training

15 posted on 10/13/2005 10:57:30 AM PDT by Coleus ("Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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16 posted on 10/13/2005 10:58:57 AM PDT by NYer (“Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: Coleus
While I agree with a lot of it and believe homosexuality is the symptom of a bigger issue, the source also has an agenda and some of these facts may be skewed. For instance: 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age

The law does not consider 18 year olds "boys" and for 18, 19 and 20 year olds, younger ages may be an "acceptable" consent age. I haven't looked at the source of the footnote, but I suspect they included 18 year olds since it added weight to the statistic they were trying to portray. We could also look at the age of the questioned when the activity tookplace. It may be possible that this response included acts committed before the men questioned were 18 as there is no time frame established for the act.

I only highlight this, since purposely skewed statistics, will be sighted by others to debunk the entire content.

17 posted on 10/13/2005 11:01:12 AM PDT by BigYellowDog
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To: Coleus

bump.


18 posted on 10/13/2005 11:04:15 AM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: Coleus
The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8).

The homosexual lifestyle is much more dangerous than smoking. I wonder when state AG's are going to sue "big gay" to fund anti-homosexual programs...

19 posted on 10/13/2005 11:04:38 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: Coleus

not that there's anything wrong with that...


20 posted on 10/13/2005 11:08:49 AM PDT by bruin66 (Time: Nature's way of keeping everything from happening at once.)
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To: Coleus
Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8).

?????. Just ewwww.

21 posted on 10/13/2005 11:09:51 AM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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[I wonder when state AG's are going to sue "big gay"...]

Absolutely hysterical point. I'm going to steal it. Thx.


22 posted on 10/13/2005 11:11:09 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark
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To: Coleus
Only one of the sources is more recent than 10 years ago.

The "statistics" totally botch the APA's stand for continued criminalization of pedophilia.

Source MSNBC, Oct 10, 2005:

Going back to the suspect Kinsey work from the late 40's in ridiculous. But let's look at recent data:

over their lifetimes, 6 percent of men and 11 percent of women reported having such experiences. About 1 percent of men and 3 percent of women said they had had both male and female sexual partners within 12 months...

The data come from the 2002 National Survey of Family Growth, a survey of 12,571 men and women aged 15 to 44...

NY Times Article, SEPT 17, 2005

I could continue "correcting" the "statistics" but I think it should be clear some are out of date if not suspect. It's one thing to have an opinion which opposes homosexuality but it's another to draw upon false, misleading or very old data. Heck, one of their sources is Playboy!

23 posted on 10/13/2005 11:12:44 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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poing!

The Natural Laws Can Not Be Denied
- Resistance Is Futile!

24 posted on 10/13/2005 11:13:35 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: ncountylee
The NEA supports the gay agenda in spite because of the effects on children.
25 posted on 10/13/2005 11:18:08 AM PDT by Antoninus (The greatest gifts parents can give their children are siblings.)
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To: newzjunkey
What is your point? Do you attempt to discredit the information?

Your argument at best does nothing but imply all subjective studies meaningless; however, some reality has the favor of history -the proof is in the practice -as such, the common law sand societal wisdom that has been in place for centuries should remain in place and prevail over the new fangled homosexual arguments which are based in subjective study -with results that attempt to tip reality on its head...

26 posted on 10/13/2005 11:20:27 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Coleus
Question 1:

Isn't a Bishop or Cardinal of Chicago Arch Diocese going to march in an upcomming Gay parade? (In the name of outreach)

Question #2:

Any on know if NAMBLA be present in this same particular parade??
Seems pretty ball-zy after the pedophile priest scandal!...I'll should fly out to protest that one!

I think we need a Catholic Faithful Tour, much like the Support our Troops Tour (aka U dont speak for me Cindy Tour). It would involve alot of praying, and protest, and solidarity with our brothers trapped in certain Liberal Heterodox Dioceses. What do ya say? We would get EWTN coverage for sure. Movement! Plan Now

27 posted on 10/13/2005 11:26:24 AM PDT by right-wingin_It
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To: Coleus

Mark for later read.


28 posted on 10/13/2005 11:30:46 AM PDT by el_texicano (Liberals, Socialist, DemocRATS, all touchy, feely, mind numbed robots, useless idiots all)
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To: DBeers
You have absolutely nailed the issue with your most excellent pic & caption. The homosexual lobby & it's supporters will never debate the laws of nature because they have no argument. Nature is totally unforgiving when you contravene it's rules yet they keep on ignoring the obvious on their way to self destruction.
29 posted on 10/13/2005 11:34:06 AM PDT by Apercu ("Res ipsa loquitur")
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To: Coleus
No, no. It's an alternative lifestyle...
30 posted on 10/13/2005 11:44:44 AM PDT by pabianice
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"Homosexuals are ....19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident."

I don't understand how that can be. I would think that gay guys would be proficient at handling a stickshift.


31 posted on 10/13/2005 11:48:56 AM PDT by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: Spok

The Left liked Stalin too.


32 posted on 10/13/2005 11:50:14 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (MSM: de facto allies of America's enemies.)
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"Homosexuals are ....19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident."
I don't understand how that can be.
Rear-end collisions.
33 posted on 10/13/2005 11:56:24 AM PDT by eastsider
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To: x5452
I wish insurance companies could act on these statistics,...

I wish insurance companies could would act on these statistics.

They must have some really crappy actuaries...

34 posted on 10/13/2005 11:57:59 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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"Homosexuals are ....19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident."

They get rearended frequently.


35 posted on 10/13/2005 12:01:42 PM PDT by Wristpin ( Varitek says to A-Rod: "We don't throw at .260 hitters.....")
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To: murphE

I have always wondered why the Catholic Church, of all institutions, seems to have embraced moral relativism. Like the gimmicrats, the church keeps its loonies no matter what the price -mass exodus of its members, bankruptcy, jail time -nothing matters but the agenda. Some day I'd like to vote Democrat and give to Catholic charities. I keep waiting. Both institutions' scandals are instructive.


36 posted on 10/13/2005 12:03:34 PM PDT by ashtanga
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To: Coleus
Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, (19).

73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).

These statistics seem to contradict each other...I don't believe that the gap can be explained by the 18-year-olds.

37 posted on 10/13/2005 12:06:03 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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38 posted on 10/13/2005 12:14:35 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: Coleus

bumping...


39 posted on 10/13/2005 12:18:44 PM PDT by redhead (One-quarter of what you eat keeps you alive. The rest keeps your doctor alive...)
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Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities"

I hear stories from law enforcement people. Truly amazing serial killers are not at all uncommon amongst those people. The media people seem to ignore the whole affair.

One fellow was on the run after being linked to a series of very slow killings in the South. To finance his travels he intimidated a bank officer in his office, filled his briefcase full of large bills, and left the bank with the loan officer as his prisoner. This is all pretty ordinary. What is not is that he handcuffed the loan officer around a tree and spent several hours letting the fellow die. Not just a quick death for an inconvenient witness but instead a very brutal, long, and humiliating one.
40 posted on 10/13/2005 12:32:17 PM PDT by Iris7 ("Let me go to the house of the Father.")
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To: ElkGroveDan
These statistics seem to contradict each other...I don't believe that the gap can be explained by the 18-year-olds.

You are attempting to compare and contrast civilly reported crime numbers with self identified numbers -any gap if there is one would be due to errors in reporting of both populations e.g. unreported crimes or not identified sexual activity...

You can not compare these numbers and derive any significant meaning nor can their comparison imply any error with the independent conclusions each separately present

41 posted on 10/13/2005 12:50:05 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: BigYellowDog
The 73% statistic comes from:

(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.

Jay and Young are both Gay men with a pro-gay agenda. If even the pro-gays report this number the truth isprobably much more than that.

42 posted on 10/13/2005 12:50:54 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Jo Nuvark
So these otherwise normally functioning hetero boys believe that when (if) they became sexually aroused through stimulation, they must have enjoyed it. Which means they must be homosexual.

Standard brain washing technique. The victim comes to identify with their attacker as a way to rationalize the wrong away from the attack. This is why recruiting works and why 'homosexuals' must be kept away from our children

43 posted on 10/13/2005 12:53:01 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O
Jay and Young are both Gay men with a pro-gay agenda.

If the statistic is used for the pro-gay agenda, then by all means throw it back at them. I now need to take a look at that book. I'm wondering why they are using that statistic to promote the cause.

44 posted on 10/13/2005 12:57:39 PM PDT by BigYellowDog
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To: Spok

The Left needs a class of people whose sexual behavior is even worse than their own.


45 posted on 10/13/2005 1:05:15 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: John O
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275 If found a synopsis. Very interesting:

http://www.narth.com/docs/reporton.html

46 posted on 10/13/2005 1:10:14 PM PDT by BigYellowDog
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Question 1:

Isn't a Bishop or Cardinal of Chicago Arch Diocese going to march in an upcomming Gay parade? (In the name of outreach)  >>>>

this is the only link I could find. 
 
IFI's LaBarbera Calls on Catholics to Reject Gay 'Rainbow Sash' Activism
 
We applaud Cardinal Francis George of Chicago for properly rejecting Rainbow Sash demands-- and for not welcoming them as have some Catholic leaders, including Cardinal Roger Mahoney of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.
 
I think we need a Catholic Faithful Tour>>
 
Great Idea.  I think the American Life League does that every summer with college students. Rock for Life. You may want to check it out...

47 posted on 10/13/2005 1:10:54 PM PDT by Coleus ("Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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To: John O

Sorry I took so long to reply... needed to get some work done.

Thanks for responding to my opinion about how homosexuals are created. This idea has been liberating to practicing, adult hetero men who are struggling with sexual identity.

Maybe we should spread the Word.


48 posted on 10/13/2005 1:15:47 PM PDT by Jo Nuvark
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To: Coleus
(8) Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA.

Reference (8) is cited often, but doesn't appear to be a regular publication.

49 posted on 10/13/2005 1:24:23 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Jo Nuvark

are you on the homosexual agenda ping list? we've been working on getting the truth out for a while. The list keeps us informed and armed with the latest info.


50 posted on 10/13/2005 1:30:45 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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