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How I Solved the Mexican Border Problem
Penguin Proletariat ^ | 10-12-05 | Bill Cavaliere

Posted on 10/13/2005 10:13:50 PM PDT by vivabushchick

(Ed: Bill Cavaliere was born on August 27, 1957 and grew up in Parsippany, NJ. At age 20 he moved to southwestern New Mexico, where he was initailly employed with the US Forest Service in the Coronado National Forest. He later attended the New Mexico Law Enforcement Academy in Santa Fe. He was hired as a deputy with the Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office, and during his 18-year tenure he was eventually elected sheriff. He has since worked as an instructor for the National Counterdrug Center, and is currently employed with the Playas New Mexico Police Department. He is married with two children, and lives 35 miles from the Mexican border. He is also a personal friend of Waco Kid.)

There’s alot of publicity out there lately regarding the problem with our porous border with Mexico. It is not the intent of this column to discuss or debate the reason why there’s even an invasion. I’m here to say that not only can it be stopped, but it WAS stopped, at least here in Hidalgo County New Mexico.

A little background first: Hidalgo County is located in the extreme southwest corner of the state of New Mexico. On a map, this portion juts down into the country of Mexico, earning it the nickname of “The Bootheel”. It shares 86 miles of Mexican border. There is a single border crossing, located at Antelope Wells, and this US Customs checkpoint is open only 8 hours a day. The entire border area in the county is extremely remote, consisting of desert mountains and arid grasslands. There are literally hundreds of square miles of nothing. Nothing but rattlesnakes, tarantulas, lizards and coyotes, sprinkled with herds of cows and some remote windmills.

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One man with a clear idea stops the usual illegal traffic from crossing the border. I fear the feds will not follow this example...hope I'm wrong. Please follow the link for the whole article.
1 posted on 10/13/2005 10:13:54 PM PDT by vivabushchick
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To: vivabushchick

The reason the Feds don't stop it is because they are part of a plot to destroy this nation. At least enough of them are, to cause nothing to be done about this invasion.


2 posted on 10/13/2005 10:22:42 PM PDT by jeremiah (People wake up, the water is getting hot)
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To: vivabushchick
I think we need an armed group of citizens camped out along the border - as they cross, we yell go back. If they keep coming, we shoot. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

We also need to send back the illegals that are already here. We ask them to go back. If they don't. we shoot. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

This is the ONLY thing that will work. And I would DARE the federal government to prosecute any citizen protecting the border - something the government is unwilling to do.

3 posted on 10/13/2005 10:35:17 PM PDT by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: jeremiah

I salute him!


4 posted on 10/13/2005 10:35:47 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: vivabushchick

'OK federal government, what’s your excuse now? If I could seal off the border in little ol’ Hidalgo County, why can’t YOU do it?'

New England is becoming all spanish all the time.

'Colder New Mexico', not 'New England'.


5 posted on 10/13/2005 10:38:36 PM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")
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To: vivabushchick
"For this program to be initiated across the entire US/Mexican border, and to be effective, would no doubt cost millions of dollars. OP sites would have to be chosen, constructed and supplied.

But it would save millions of dollars in other areas. You might have more cops on the border, but you would need fewer cops investigating crimes inside the border.

6 posted on 10/13/2005 10:50:17 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: vivabushchick; Americanwolf; SandRat; HiJinx

Simple and effective method of border control. And I would bet it wouldn't cost half of what we are spending now to control the borders. But then of course the government is getting this for free now from the Minutemen.AWB


7 posted on 10/13/2005 10:53:49 PM PDT by Americanwolfsbrother (Don't hate on someone for using their mind.)
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To: HiJinx; gubamyster


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


8 posted on 10/13/2005 10:59:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Americanwolfsbrother; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; ...
Click to see other threads related to illegal aliens in America
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It's called political will, and it ain't there...not yet...but watch what happens after the mid-term elections.

10 posted on 10/13/2005 11:01:36 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Plug the Dike ~ Drain the Swamp ~)
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To: polateq2; Admin Moderator

For what it's worth, we try to limit our responses so that they are relevant to the topic being discussed...in this case, illegal immigration and how to stop it.

If you'd like to talk about that, please do.

If you want to whine about the capriciousness of moderators, do it in FReepmail.

5 - 4 - 3....


11 posted on 10/13/2005 11:06:15 PM PDT by HiJinx (~ Plug the Dike ~ Drain the Swamp ~)
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To: polateq2
"Almost everyone in the rest of the world really dislikes Bush. Does that count?"

Frankly, no.

The "world" can go jump in a lake.

12 posted on 10/13/2005 11:14:21 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: polateq2

Don't understand much about property rights do ya... Kinda like the illegals...


13 posted on 10/13/2005 11:19:04 PM PDT by Americanwolf
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To: jeremiah
The plot is a devil's deal between America, Mexico and Canada. Read about it at:

http://www.manews.org/0805elitesmerg.html

14 posted on 10/13/2005 11:19:23 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: polateq2

That you think the rest of the world does not like President Bush, if true, is one of the reasons I like him very much.

Most of the rest of the world is inferior to France. However, If they gave the world an enema, they would use Frnce as the orifice of choice..


15 posted on 10/13/2005 11:25:05 PM PDT by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best candidate available, have not helped us, conservatively speaking.)
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To: vivabushchick
The border fence, for the most part, consists of a 5-strand barbed wire fence and, in many places, no fence at all.

Maybe the President aboard Air Force One can ask the pilot to fly low over the 5 strand barb wire fence and check on federal border security.

16 posted on 10/13/2005 11:25:32 PM PDT by afnamvet
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To: polateq2; Admin Moderator; wagglebee; HiJinx; MikeinIraq

Dude. This is a conservative, pro-Constitution, pro-Republican (most of the time; only when their principles line up with conservatism). Democrats usually don't meet the aforementioned criteria.

Don't like it? Think we're not 'open-minded'? Tough. I'll just say that we're intolerant of idiotic viewpoints that have no basis in reality (ie: most of the Left's talking points).

Ta ta.


17 posted on 10/13/2005 11:43:49 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (We DARE Defend Our Rights [Alabama State Motto])
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To: polateq2

Not to be impolite or unduly critical, but what should "world opinion" of anything American mean to an American?

Just wondering?


18 posted on 10/13/2005 11:52:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: polateq2

This account has been banned or suspended.


19 posted on 10/13/2005 11:54:53 PM PDT by Petruchio ( ... .--. .- -.-- / .- -. -.. / -. . ..- - . .-. / .. .-.. .-.. . --. .- .-.. / .- .-.. .. . -. ...)
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To: GladesGuru

Don't let the DU guy mislead you. America is better liked than you guys might think. It's just that so many countries have badly-infected MSMs.


20 posted on 10/14/2005 3:45:00 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: bitt

VeryFine's parking lot in Littleton, MA, yesterday, around three PM. The shift was ending, and the large Brazilian contingent was getting off work, climbing aboard vans taking them back to Lowell. Everybody else (other illegals), is mowing lawns, doing roofs, decks, construction work.


21 posted on 10/14/2005 3:55:58 AM PDT by hershey
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To: vivabushchick

Wow. His plan is very different from the one my lib sister-in-law came up with. She thinks we should just let 'em all in. For what it's worth, I like his plan much better. :)


22 posted on 10/14/2005 4:09:22 AM PDT by RoseyT
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To: agere_contra

When it comes to Bush-phobia, all too many American MSM have got it too.


23 posted on 10/14/2005 4:13:23 AM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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To: hershey

Ah yes, the Brazilians have a huge illegal contingent in Lowell and Framingham. I'm sure you heard about the 17 y.o. illegal a few months back who ran over and killed a cop in a construction zone. A young wife and a few kids now without a father. They DEPORTED her back to Brazil! Why? I think she's owed a visit to see Ol' Sparky.


24 posted on 10/14/2005 4:19:25 AM PDT by hillary's_fat_a**
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To: vivabushchick
He is also a personal friend of Waco Kid

Oh, well! That makes all the difference. Who or what is a Waco Kid and how knowing that going to change my life?

25 posted on 10/14/2005 4:20:10 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: vivabushchick

Hear that, Bush?


26 posted on 10/14/2005 4:27:02 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: vivabushchick

I think the government is starting to find the will to control the border. I hate to say it, but I think there is big Republican money against border patrol, and that the money must be coming from the housing industry.


27 posted on 10/14/2005 4:28:52 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Thank God the Boston blowhard lost)
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OK federal government, what’s your excuse now? If I could seal off the border in little ol’ Hidalgo County, why can’t YOU do it?

Because they don't want to?

28 posted on 10/14/2005 4:50:26 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: hershey

Bush's best chance at saving face over this border issue is to use the 'avian flu' as his reason to seal the borders permanently.


29 posted on 10/14/2005 5:17:35 AM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")
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To: DannyTN

Saw the CEO of a precast concrete business on Lou Dobbs's show this week touting the idea of a 2000 mi. fence made of his concrete panels reinforced with a metal grid that is used in highway barriers. It is incredibly strong and vertually indestructable, quickly installed, and it certainly would be less expensive than paying for the medical, educational, and criminal costs inflicted on the US taxpayer by illegals. If any senator is serious about border control, they could vote for the construction of a real border fence instead of the pitiful two strands of broken wire that we now have. Why has no member of the House or Senate suggested this?


30 posted on 10/14/2005 5:27:15 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: hillary's_fat_a**
DITTO!

A few months ago, I had a post deleted by Admin because it 'advocated violence against innocent people' -- seems that some positions have changed recently.

These ARE criminals and they ARE invading and we should do WHATEVER IT TAKES to put an end to it!

31 posted on 10/14/2005 5:28:13 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: hillary's_fat_a**

(realizing my prior post may not have been clear: the item that was deleted by Admin was a milder form of your post above)


32 posted on 10/14/2005 5:31:12 AM PDT by Ed_in_NJ (Who killed Suzanne Coleman?)
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To: jeremiah

Truth bump!


33 posted on 10/14/2005 5:41:13 AM PDT by Aznar5
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To: jeremiah

The feds can stop it, they choose not to.


34 posted on 10/14/2005 6:22:35 AM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: Travis McGee

35 posted on 10/14/2005 6:33:56 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Free flights home for all invaders.)
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To: vivabushchick

I think I'll forward this article to all the morons in DC who claim to represent me.


36 posted on 10/14/2005 6:42:52 AM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock)
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To: bitt
Bush's best chance at saving face over this border issue is to use the 'avian flu' as his reason to seal the borders permanently.

Since 9/11 wasn't enough of a reason to close the borders, I rather doubt that the avian flu would be either.

Some people in this country must be making some serious money from both drug smuggling and illegal aliens. I'd like to see the list of who's who in this category.

37 posted on 10/14/2005 6:56:04 AM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: vivabushchick
No reason for quoting...

How I Solved the Mexican Border Problem by Bill Cavaliere

Bill Cavaliere(Ed: Bill Cavaliere was born on August 27, 1957 and grew up in Parsippany, NJ. At age 20 he moved to southwestern New Mexico, where he was initailly employed with the US Forest Service in the Coronado National Forest. He later attended the New Mexico Law Enforcement Academy in Santa Fe. He was hired as a deputy with the Hidalgo County Sheriff’s Office, and during his 18-year tenure he was eventually elected sheriff. He has since worked as an instructor for the National Counterdrug Center, and is currently employed with the Playas New Mexico Police Department. He is married with two children, and lives 35 miles from the Mexican border. He is also a personal friend of Waco Kid.)

There’s alot of publicity out there lately regarding the problem with our porous border with Mexico. It is not the intent of this column to discuss or debate the reason why there’s even an invasion. I’m here to say that not only can it be stopped, but it WAS stopped, at least here in Hidalgo County New Mexico.

A little background first: Hidalgo County is located in the extreme southwest corner of the state of New Mexico. On a map, this portion juts down into the country of Mexico, earning it the nickname of “The Bootheel”. It shares 86 miles of Mexican border. There is a single border crossing, located at Antelope Wells, and this US Customs checkpoint is open only 8 hours a day. The entire border area in the county is extremely remote, consisting of desert mountains and arid grasslands. There are literally hundreds of square miles of nothing. Nothing but rattlesnakes, tarantulas, lizards and coyotes, sprinkled with herds of cows and some remote windmills.

98 illegals
98 illegal aliens caught in Animas, NM

The border fence, for the most part, consists of a 5-strand barbed wire fence and, in many places, no fence at all. The remoteness of Hidalgo County’s border region makes it an ideal choice for illegal activities. Not only is illegal immigration rampant here, but drug smuggling as well. Usually unreportted in the mainstream media is the residual crime that results from this combination: burglaries of homes, rustled cattle, stolen cars. Usually all we read about are the illegal aliens, and whether it is morally right or wrong to try to turn them away. Lets get something straight from the start: as a police officer, I enforce the law. It is illegal for anyone, Mexican or otherwise, to set foot in the United States by crossing the border fence. Hence the term ILLEGAL alien. The ones that are not drug smugglers, and are not crossing with the intent to steal, I feel sorry for. I feed them. But I also catch them, and turn them over to the Border Patrol. It has nothing to do with predjudice against Mexicans, so don’t even bother going that route. Until the law changes, I will continue to do what I was sworn to do, and that is to enforce the law.

During my time as sheriff, I was constantly dealing with border crime issues. The deputies were repeatedly responding to calls regarding rustled cattle, burglarized ranch houses, stolen cars, even stolen windmills. Drug smuggling was frequent. To say the Border Patrol had their hands full was an understatement.

110 lbs pot
Then Deputy Cavalier in 1994
with 110 lbs marijuana.

I started off by sending my deputies to many advanced training classes dealing with drug smuggling detection. I also visited with New Mexico congressmen and senators to seek assistance. Finally, and most importantly, my Undersheriff and I put our heads together and came up with an interesting idea: what I called the Monthly Border Operations. We flew along the border in a borrowed plane and selected eight OP (observation posts) sites at certain points chosen to view the area unobstructed. The view from each site overlapped the one next to it. Two officers were assigned to each OP site, and were equipped with binoculars, night vision goggles (NVGs), spotting scopes, LORIS cameras and other equipment. When all 8 sites were manned, the entire Mexican border with Hidalgo County was under detection. Other officers were assigned in patrol vehicles. When someone tried to cross into the US, he was spotted, location noted, and the ground patrol radioed to intercept. All smuggling and illegal crossing ceased in Hidalgo County, New Mexico.

Oftentimes, as the patrol vehicle arrived to the scene of the crime (yes, it IS a crime), the illegal alien would see it coming and change his mind, returning to Mexico before the officer could reach him. On one particular incident, I was in the reponding patrol vehicle. The Illegal alien, already in the United States and seeing my approach from far away, simply laid down in the extremely high grass that was in the area. I stopped my vehicle and looked for him, to no avail. The officers at the OP site, however, could easily see him from their high vantage point, and radioed directions to me, telling me when to turn left and when to turn right, and eventually telling me when to stop to avoid running him over.

Ammo
Boxes of .223 ammos and two magazines
taken from illegal aliens.

The drawback to the Monthly Border Operations was obvious: with a minimal amount of deputies, money, and resources, I could only hold the operations three days a month. I had to borrow manpower from other agencies, such as the BLM Rangers, NM Mounted Patrol, NM State Police, and especially the drug interdiction unit of the New Mexico National Guard, who not only provided manpower, but equipment and other resources as well. And suprisingly, all of this was done with a minimum of red tape.

For this program to be initiated across the entire US/Mexican border, and to be effective, would no doubt cost millions of dollars. OP sites would have to be chosen, constructed and supplied. Property ownership would have to be considered. Other factors, no doubt expensive, would come up. However, this cost, for the most part, would be a one-time investment, which would be a lot cheaper than the revolving-door of wasted money that we see today. No wall would need to be constructed, so politicians wouldn’t have to worry about “offending our neighbors to the south”. Border patrol agents could man the OP sites.

OK federal government, what’s your excuse now? If I could seal off the border in little ol’ Hidalgo County, why can’t YOU do it?

(Ed: Bill tells us he recently met with members of the Minute Man Project, and will file a report in the near future. A tip of the Stetson to our ol’ saddle-pal Bill Cavaliere for this article.)


38 posted on 10/14/2005 7:32:14 AM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: GladesGuru
Not to be impolite or unduly critical, but what should "world opinion" of anything American mean to an American?

Diddly Sqwat?

39 posted on 10/14/2005 8:22:25 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: janetgreen

Janetgreen!

Your link led me, in natuaral progression, to this:

http://www.the forbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/council_on_foreign_relations.htm

Hoo boy! Chilling.


40 posted on 10/14/2005 8:26:35 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Iron Matron

http://theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/council_on_foreign_relations.htm

sorry!
Maybe this one will work.


41 posted on 10/14/2005 8:28:04 AM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: vivabushchick

In the immortal words of Eddie Money, 'gimme some water cuse I shot a man on the Mexican border, cool, cool water, I need a little water!'


42 posted on 10/14/2005 8:28:18 AM PDT by jimfrommaine
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To: kittymyrib

I wonder who his work force consists of.


43 posted on 10/14/2005 8:32:27 AM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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To: ASA Vet

44 posted on 10/14/2005 8:34:56 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: hillary's_fat_a**

"I think we need an armed group of citizens camped out along the border - as they cross, we yell go back. If they keep coming, we shoot. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

"We also need to send back the illegals that are already here. We ask them to go back. If they don't. we shoot. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!"

OK, so you think that Waco was a good thing. They were told to come out. They didn't, they got incinerated. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!


45 posted on 10/14/2005 8:35:26 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! MORE! MORE! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: vivabushchick

"for the program to be initiated across the US/Mexican border...would cost millions of dollars..one time cost"One man,one small PD with limited resources made a difference.This is a relatively inexpensive solution to a problem that is costing American taxpayers billions of dollars.


46 posted on 10/14/2005 9:10:39 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: HiJinx

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


47 posted on 10/14/2005 9:19:43 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: bitt

Well, when you have the most expensive real estate in the country, the only folks who you will have doing the drudge work will be those who are willing to stuff four families into a row house. Of course you could try and get the folks in the projects of Roxbury and South Boston to do work, but you need to do that with a cattle prod.


48 posted on 10/14/2005 9:22:11 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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To: Petruchio

Tagline: YYZ by any chance?


49 posted on 10/14/2005 9:25:39 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: vivabushchick
"OK federal government, what’s your excuse now?"

Wonder how long his great Sheriff and great American is going to have to wait for an answer to his question?

50 posted on 10/14/2005 9:26:47 AM PDT by jpsb
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