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Update: Seven held in anti-terror raids in the Netherlands [Shots fired in Hague raid]
Expatica ^ | 14 October 2005

Posted on 10/14/2005 4:38:26 AM PDT by Eurotwit

AMSTERDAM — Shots were fired as police raided a building on the Moerweg in The Hague on Friday.

Dutch parliament buildings hermetically sealed by police

Witnesses reported seeing masked men with automatic weapons entering a flat complex on Moerweg which has been sealed off by the police. Radio 1 News was told of people hearing gunfire.

The police in The Hague have declined to comment at this stage about the reports. A spokesperson would only say police operations are taking place at several locations in the city. She would also not confirm that a raid was carried out at a school on Van Ostadestraat.

It is unclear if these raids are connected to the sealing off of parliament buildings in The Hague.


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Dutch parliament buildings hermetically sealed by police

14 October 2005

AMSTERDAM — Police officers and members of the specialist Mobiele Eenheid sealed off the parliament complex in The Hague on Friday morning.

Shots fired in Hague raid

No reason has been given for the closure of the 'Binnenhof'.

Haaglanden police department has referred all questions to the office of the national anti-terrorism Coördinator (NCTb).

But a spokesman there declined to shed any light on the matter. "What you see is what you see," he said. He indicated the situation would be clarified later on Friday.

Sources have told news agency ANP that there is a "heightened threat" but there is no further information on what this threat is.

Parliament buildings (file picture) As far as the media is aware there are no high-level meetings or major foreign officials scheduled for the Binnenhof or in the Dutch parliament on Friday. The Cabinet is to hold its weekly Friday meeting in the Trêves-zaal.

Parliament does not meet on Friday and few MPs are in and around the Binnenhof by the end of the working week. One door into the parliament (De Tweede Kamer) is locked and members of the Mobiele Eenheid are guarding the entrance on Het Plein (the square).

Police officers are also stopping and checking passing cars.

1 posted on 10/14/2005 4:38:26 AM PDT by Eurotwit
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To: knighthawk

have any more info on this?


2 posted on 10/14/2005 4:41:06 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: nuconvert

SKy News reports that 7 people are in custody after a number of anti-terror raids...


3 posted on 10/14/2005 4:43:04 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

Good. Thanx.


4 posted on 10/14/2005 4:44:44 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit
Dutch parliament buildings hermetically sealed by police

Wow, hermetically sealed?

5 posted on 10/14/2005 4:50:27 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: mtbopfuyn

hmm. Sky News reporting there is shooting in Hague...


6 posted on 10/14/2005 4:55:05 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: nuconvert

Seven held in anti-terror raids in the Netherlands

AMSTERDAM — Seven police were arrested during raids by elite anti-terrorism police in the Netherlands on Friday.

The operation was designed to prevent terror attacks. It was ordered by the national detective unit as part of an investigation into a terrorist organisation, a spokesperson for the office of the public prosecutor (OM) said.

The suspects were held in Almere, Amsterdam and The Hague. Six of the suspects are men, aged 18 to 30. The seventh is a 24-year-old woman. One of the men is 19-year-old Samir A., the OM spokesperson said.

A. was cleared by a court earlier this year of charges he was plotting terrorist attacks on a nuclear power station and other key installations in the Netherlands. He is considered the main suspect in the latest investigation.

Reports received by the Dutch intelligence service AIVD suggested, the OM said, that A. was trying to obtain automatic weapons and explosives.

Due to the perceived danger, Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner granted permission for the use of elite BBE-SIE police units to carry out the arrests.

Earlier on Friday, it was reported shots had been as police raided a building on the Moerweg in The Hague.



Dutch parliament buildings sealed by police





Witnesses reported seeing masked men with automatic weapons entering a flat complex. The Moerweg had been sealed off by the police. Radio 1 News was told of people hearing gunfire.


Also on Friday, police sealed off parliament buildings in The Hague.


7 posted on 10/14/2005 4:55:57 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit

" Seven police were arrested ..."

?


8 posted on 10/14/2005 4:58:04 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit

If the Milosovic trial is anything to judge by they will be in jail ten years before they get convicted.

The Hague--what a joke.


9 posted on 10/14/2005 4:59:39 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: LucyT; ExSoldier; all4one; Cindy; Velveeta; Calpernia; nw_arizona_granny; MamaDearest; Oorang

Ping


10 posted on 10/14/2005 5:03:36 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: Eurotwit

Glad to see the Dutch cleaning house.


11 posted on 10/14/2005 5:04:06 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Yes, hermetically sealed, for your protection.

(If I knew how I'd post a picture of a toilet seat here)


12 posted on 10/14/2005 5:05:49 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Eurotwit

Well THIS will be interesting...thanks for the post.


13 posted on 10/14/2005 5:06:13 AM PDT by SE Mom (Keep an open mind; nothing will fall out.)
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To: nuconvert

Yeah, saw that too plus a few others maybe the translation?


14 posted on 10/14/2005 5:07:36 AM PDT by SIRTRIS
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To: Eurotwit
Six of the suspects are men, aged 18 to 30. The seventh is a 24-year-old woman. One of the men is 19-year-old Samir A.

My guess is a gaggle of Mohammeds

15 posted on 10/14/2005 5:07:58 AM PDT by eddie willers
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To: sgtbono2002

Actually, they will probably by tried, convicted, and sentenced in the time it takes to go through pre-trial discovery and jury selection here in the States. And I doubt Milosevic was prosecuted under Dutch law.


16 posted on 10/14/2005 5:08:33 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Eurotwit

Look out for A. .... BC&D can't be far behind.


17 posted on 10/14/2005 5:10:09 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Eurotwit
19-year-old Samir A.

Let me guess its the Buddhists again--/sarcasm

18 posted on 10/14/2005 5:10:17 AM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: Eurotwit

What? Guns in Europe?

Somebody didn't get the memo.


19 posted on 10/14/2005 5:23:14 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: eddie willers

ya think?


20 posted on 10/14/2005 5:36:27 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: eddie willers

Come on eddie.. we all know it was jewish spies dressed up as muslims and bear muslim names once again eh ? lol


21 posted on 10/14/2005 6:04:39 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: ElisabethInCincy

Omg Not the dreaded BC& D ???????? The horror


22 posted on 10/14/2005 6:05:37 AM PDT by ElisabethInCincy
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To: mtbopfuyn

Didnt they announce they were going to ban Burkas and headdresses yesterday?


23 posted on 10/14/2005 6:07:53 AM PDT by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first ammendment doesnt work, use the 2nd)
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To: mtbopfuyn

You see, that duct tape really works.


24 posted on 10/14/2005 6:11:20 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: mtbopfuyn

There's more... hermetically sealed and kept in a mayonaise jar on Funk and Wagnall's porch !


25 posted on 10/14/2005 6:13:40 AM PDT by railsplitter (with extreme prejudice- destroy the enemy... foreign and domestic)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

With this and several murders the Dutch are waking up from their multi-cultural coma.


26 posted on 10/14/2005 6:13:56 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: sgtbono2002
Isn't The Hague the location for the International Criminal Court? If the UN has it's way that's where they'll send US citizens and US soldiers accused of violating the human rights of foreign citizens. Like if a police officer in the USA stops a middle eastern man dressed in a heavy floor length coat in the middle of the day in the Houston oil refinery district....
28 posted on 10/14/2005 6:49:20 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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To: Eurotwit

Maybe Joran is pulling an O.J.

All kidding aside, glad to see some in the EU grow a backbone and go after evil.


29 posted on 10/14/2005 8:07:35 AM PDT by cgk (Bennett: If we are surrounded by the trivial & vicious, it is all too easy to make our peace with it)
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To: nuconvert

They re-arrested Samir A. who was arrested earlier for suspected terroristic plans but released for lack of evidence.


30 posted on 10/14/2005 8:23:32 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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To: knighthawk

I thought I just heard that they're all Dutch citizens. True?


31 posted on 10/14/2005 8:26:05 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: Eurotwit

There go those darn Mormons again.


33 posted on 10/14/2005 8:36:50 AM PDT by bella1
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To: nuconvert

They are Dutch citizens because they were born here, so they have a dual-nationality, Dutch and Moroccan.

And a little more:

Seven held over suspected Dutch bomb plot
By David Sanderson



Dutch police have arrested seven people suspected of plotting attacks against politicians and government buildings in a series of raids across the country today, during which gunshots were heard.



Government ministries in The Hague were sealed off as anti-terrorist officers arrested the seven suspects. One of the men held was acquitted earlier this year on charges of planning terrorist attacks.

The national prosecutor’s office said the main suspect, Samir Azzouz, 19, was allegedly trying to buy automatic weapons and explosives "probably to carry out an attack with others on several politicians and government buildings".

The Dutch national anti-terrorism coordinator said that the arrests had led to security measures being stepped up at high-profile targets in the country adding that the terrorist threat was "substantial".

Around two dozen police officers in riot gear closed entrances leading to both houses of parliament and the government’s information service as the raids were carried out in The Hague, Amsterdam and nearby Almere. Prosecutors refused to identify those arrested, with the exception of Azzouz.

They said there were another five men aged between 18-30 and one 24-year-old woman. The suspects, who are all Dutch citizens, are due to appear in court on Monday.

Dutch national public Radio 1 said that raids had been carried out on a school in The Hague and that eyewitnesses reported hearing gunfire in the largely immigrant Schilderswijk neighbourhood of the Dutch capital. Police refused to confirm the reports.

"I walked around the corner and saw someone waving a gun shooting in the street," an unidentified witness told the NOS broadcaster.

The Dutch media reported yesterday that renewed threats had been made against two members of parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Geert Wilders, who are both outspoken critics of Islamic extremism. The two went into hiding for several months last year after the murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh in Amsterdam.

Dutch authorities raised a national security alert last July after they arrested Azzouz and found machinegun cartridges, a bullet-proof vest, two mock explosive devices, a silencer, maps and sketches of prominent buildings in his home. But a Rotterdam court ruled in April that there was not enough evidence to convict Azzouz for plotting bomb attacks.

He was sentenced to three months imprisonment for illegal possession of weapons, but was freed on the day of the hearing because of time already spent in custody.

Prosecutors have separately linked Azzouz to a militant Islamist network that is suspected of plots to kill leading politicians critical of Islam and of ties to the man charged with the November murder of filmmaker Theo van Gogh.

Twelve members of the so-called "Hofstad" group were detained after Van Gogh was killed, and they face trial for membership of a criminal organisation and planning to kill prominent politicians.

The country’s security alert has been at "substantial" since the bombing attacks in London on July 7. This is the second highest threat in the Netherlands’ four-stage warning system.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1825986,00.html


34 posted on 10/14/2005 8:47:05 AM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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35 posted on 10/14/2005 8:53:37 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: knighthawk

Moroccans again.
thanx for the info


36 posted on 10/14/2005 9:03:35 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: knighthawk
"Dutch authorities raised a national security alert last July after they arrested Azzouz and found machinegun cartridges, a bullet-proof vest, two mock explosive devices, a silencer, maps and sketches of prominent buildings in his home. But a Rotterdam court ruled in April that there was not enough evidence to convict Azzouz for plotting bomb attacks."

Yeah, he coulda been making his own picture postcards /sarc

37 posted on 10/14/2005 9:14:37 AM PDT by cake_crumb (They're Not Conservative Enough! Get a Rope so We Can Hang Ourselves!)
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To: knighthawk

Thanks for the update.

It's been a busy few days around the world.


38 posted on 10/14/2005 9:33:04 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: railsplitter
There's more... hermetically sealed and kept in a mayonaise jar on Funk and Wagnall's porch !

LOL! We're showing our age! :-)

39 posted on 10/14/2005 9:39:51 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Many Democrats are not weak Americans. But nearly all weak Americans are Democrats.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Wow, hermetically sealed?

Gotta protect the mucky-mucks from chemical and biological weapons attacks. I'm guessing we have the same for our government officals.

40 posted on 10/14/2005 9:54:23 AM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: knighthawk
The Dutch media reported yesterday that renewed threats had been made against two members of parliament, Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Geert Wilders, who are both outspoken critics of Islamic extremism.

Something is happening in Baghdad!

See :

Sunni Divisions

41 posted on 10/14/2005 9:57:35 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: bella1
There go those darn Mormons again.

Nah, it's those radical Puritans. The Dutch had trouble with them once before you know. ;)

42 posted on 10/14/2005 10:04:13 AM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: Eurotwit; knighthawk; All

October 14, 2005

Holland's problem

Reports coming from Holland today indicate that Dutch authorities have carried out anti-terror raids in various cities, arresting seven individuals between The Hague and Amsterdam. Officials have revealed that the main target of the operation is 19-year-old Samir Azzouz. Azzouz is the enfant prodige of the so-called Hofstad group, the maxi-cell responsible for the assassination of Theo van Gogh and other attempted attacks in Portugal and Holland, and the living example of the inadequacy of the Dutch anti-terrorism system. At age 16 Amsterdam-born Azzouz attempted to join the mujhaeddin fighting in Chechnya with Abdelaziz Beniyach, a leading GICM member, but the two were arrested by Ukrainian custom officers before reaching the Caucasus. Once back in Holland, Azzouz was arrested a first time in the fall of 2003 along with Mohammed Bouyeri, the future killer of Theo van Gogh, but both men were immediately released for lack of evidence. By the first months of 2004 17-year-old Azzouz had become one of the key elements of the Hofstad group. According to Dutch authorities, he had begun surveiling key installations throughout the Netherlands that were suitable targets for attacks. In June, he was arrested in connection with the robbery of the small supermarket where he worked, and police searched his Rotterdam apartment. Investigators found a gun, two ammunition clips, night vision goggles, a bulletproof vest, and chemicals commonly used in making bombs. They also found sketches and floor plans of Amsterdam’s Schiphol Airport, the headquarters of the AIVD (Algemene Inlichtingen- en Veiligheidsdienst, Dutch intelligence agency), the parliament and Defense Ministry in The Hague, and a nuclear power plant in Borssele.
Dutch prosecutors, who tried Azzouz as an adult, asked for a sentence of seven years. They also demanded that Azzouz be denied his voting rights for twelve years, an unusual request that they argued was justified because he had tried to “attack democracy.” But as often happens in terrorism trials in the Netherlands, the Rotterdam court acquitted Azzouz, sentencing him to only three months for illegal possession of firearms, a term he had already served. Exiting the courthouse with his wife, Azzouz celebrated his release by punching a freelance photographer and knocking him unconscious against a parked car.
The recently published 2004 Dutch intelligence report clearly states that “The AIVD considers this radical Muslim as one of the core members of the Hofstad group.”
Today’s events clearly show both Azzouz’s dangerousness and the Dutch legal system’s inability to deal with the severe terrorist threat it is facing.


Posted by Lorenzo Vidino at 12:09 PM | Permalink


From:http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_counterterrorism_blog/2005/10/hollands_proble.html


43 posted on 10/14/2005 11:02:27 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus

Into the Beehives!


44 posted on 10/14/2005 11:44:11 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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To: Eurotwit

how DARE those imperialistic Dutch. Their "bring it on" attitude will just encourage more Terror.


45 posted on 10/14/2005 11:57:28 AM PDT by omega4179 (America Bless God? God Bless Tancredo!)
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To: aculeus

I'm really surprise that the AIVD hasn't taken out Samir Azzouz. This guy is a blatant terrorist, not even trying to hide is intensions. The AIVD has to make this dude disappear forever.


46 posted on 10/14/2005 11:57:55 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (born and raised in rachacha!)
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To: Eurotwit

Seven lone, unrelated suicide attempts.


47 posted on 10/14/2005 12:37:16 PM PDT by Squeako (ACLU: "Only Christians, Boy Scouts and War Memorials are too vile to defend.")
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To: aculeus
Exiting the courthouse with his wife, Azzouz celebrated his release by punching a freelance photographer and knocking him unconscious against a parked car.

And then just walked away, unarrested apparently.

Good Lord.

49 posted on 10/14/2005 12:45:42 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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50 posted on 10/14/2005 12:47:45 PM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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