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Top GOP senator criticizes Bush on `trust me' approach (Santorum)
Knight Ridder via Monterey Herald ^ | 10-14-2005 | THOMAS FITZGERALD AND CARRIE BUDOFF

Posted on 10/14/2005 5:13:15 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite

PHILADELPHIA - (KRT) - Americans "deserve better" than President Bush's "trust me" approach to the Supreme Court nomination of Harriet Miers, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said Friday, making his sharpest critique yet amid a right-wing revolt over the pick.

Santorum added, however, that he had not decided to oppose Miers and hoped to learn more about her views during confirmation hearings.

"There is a lot of heat. I think there is a lot of disappointment that the president didn't put someone up there with a record we could examine," Santorum said on a local radio show.

"It is what I term the president's second faith-based initiative, which is `trust me,'" Santorum said. "I think, candidly, we deserve better than that."

Until Friday's remarks and brief comments during a visit Thursday to Chambersburg, Pa., Santorum had mostly confined himself to saying he didn't know much about Miers. His reticence was a marked contrast to the criticism from other conservatives, such as Sens. Sam Brownback, R-Kan. - who declared he would vote against her - and Trent Lott, R-Miss.

Santorum's views could be important because of his influence among Republican conservatives and because, as the party's No. 3 leader in the Senate, he has been closely tied to Bush's agenda. Santorum faces a tough re-election fight next year against Democratic State Treasurer Robert P. Casey Jr. - who says he will wait until after the confirmation hearings to announce his position on Miers.

National conservative leaders across the country have excoriated Bush for picking Miers because she has no record on constitutional issues, either as a judge or an academic, that might reassure them she would hew to a philosophy of judicial restraint on the high court. Others have said they wanted to see indications Miers was opposed to abortion and gay marriage.

Miers, a Dallas corporate lawyer who was the president's personal attorney, is the White House counsel.

In the summer, Santorum was one of the earliest and most enthusiastic backers of Bush's nomination of Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., convening a media conference call within hours of the announcement.

"When they nominated John Roberts, I was, `Sounds great,'" Santorum said Friday, in an interview after an anti-poverty forum at the Sunday Breakfast Mission in North Philadelphia. "I think we deserve to know more, we deserve to have someone ... who has a record - not a better record, just someone who has a record."

Santorum said he was not hearing a great deal from his political base about the pick, but, "I am not hearing a lot of enthusiasm. If I am hearing anything, it is negative."

Conservative leaders in Pennsylvania said reaction to Miers among the rank-and-file has ranged from puzzlement and disappointment to hope.

"It's difficult to be enthusiastic when her resume and philosophy are undefined," said Jeff Coleman, a former state representative from Indiana County now with a conservative think tank in Harrisburg, Pa.

"The president has earned respect with his choices on judges, but it's `trust but verify' on this one," Coleman said. "We'll all be leaning into the television to hear her answers on the first day of the confirmation hearings."

Michael Geer, president of the Pennsylvania Family Institute, said most conservatives are taking a wait-and-see approach. "It's disappointing the nominee is not someone who's clear-cut," Geer said, but even if she were, there is no guarantee. "It's hard to predict, even with a track record," he said, noting that several Supreme Court nominees have confounded the presidents who appointed them.

In recent days, the White House has stressed Miers' born-again Christian faith in an effort to shore up conservative support for the nomination. She is a member of the Valley View Christian Church in Dallas, a congregation based on a strict reading of the Bible.

That approach has worked for William Devlin, an evangelical who heads the Urban Family Council in Philadelphia.

"Here is a woman who's been very public about her conversion to Christianity. Why can't conservatives trust her?" He said conservative critics sound like pessimistic "lemon suckers."

For his part, Santorum said he would base his decision on what he hears from Miers in the coming days.

"I am going to give Harriet Miers her day in court, if you will, before the committee, and have an opportunity to talk with her and give her every opportunity to let her show us what kind of judicial philosophy she has - and whether she is in fact the kind of person we want on the court," Santorum said on the radio program.


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1 posted on 10/14/2005 5:13:17 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite
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To: Rodney King; ARealMothersSonForever; NixonsAngryGhost; indcons; 2ndreconmarine; Stellar Dendrite; ..

ping


2 posted on 10/14/2005 5:13:54 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Impeach98; fallujah-nuker

ping


3 posted on 10/14/2005 5:14:58 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

The bottom is really starting to fall out on this Miers nomination. Last one out, turn off the lights.


4 posted on 10/14/2005 5:17:36 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

It is what I term the president's second faith-based initiative, which is `trust me,'" Santorum said. "I think, candidly, we deserve better than that."




Correct. Too bad you supported the RINO in '04 and are now going to lose your seat because of it.


5 posted on 10/14/2005 5:19:07 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Disciplining ourselves to provide the opportunity for thought and analysis has to rise again to a hi)
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To: trubluolyguy

"Too bad you supported the RINO in '04 and are now going to lose your seat because of it."

This time Santorum, the next time the other RINO-PA representative--the Scottish law expert.


6 posted on 10/14/2005 5:26:30 PM PDT by Cautor
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To: trubluolyguy
It is what I term the president's second faith-based initiative, which is `trust me,'" Santorum said. "I think, candidly, we deserve better than that."

Winning my support back.

7 posted on 10/14/2005 5:26:50 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
...Democratic State Treasurer Robert P. Casey Jr. - who says he will wait until after the confirmation hearings to announce his position on Miers.

LOL...need I say anything?

8 posted on 10/14/2005 5:28:06 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
“Faith and Trust Alone”
Because I have Faith in the President and that brings me to Trust his choice of Harriet Miers.
And that could be why some conservatives, consciously or unconsciously oppose her. Is be because she is a convert? I think if Harriet Miers is confirmed, she will be the only evangelical on the U.S. Supreme Court.
9 posted on 10/14/2005 5:28:51 PM PDT by FreeRep
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To: Gondring

If I lived in PA I would be fighting for his defeat. Unless he wants to sign on to a new conservative motto, something like...No RINO's Never Again, for any reason.


10 posted on 10/14/2005 5:29:42 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Disciplining ourselves to provide the opportunity for thought and analysis has to rise again to a hi)
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To: Cautor
This time Santorum, the next time the other RINO-PA representative--the Scottish law expert.

If Santorum loses in 2006 it will be because the Philly papers have succesfully whipped up the black vote in Philly and that the democrat fraud machine is working as well as in 2004
11 posted on 10/14/2005 5:34:16 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: FreeRep

Gosh, and I though that Santorum knew what it felt like to campaign for someone, then have him basically stab him in the back....

I guess not.


13 posted on 10/14/2005 5:34:47 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: trubluolyguy

Santorum pissed his seat away and now he is trying to drag others down with him. I wish Santorum the best. But, he is in for a tough fight and needs all the friends he can find, yet he burns bridges.


14 posted on 10/14/2005 5:35:52 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (There is no truth in the news, and no news in the truth.)
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To: trubluolyguy

Sans-scr*tum is about as republican as michelle mooron


15 posted on 10/14/2005 5:35:52 PM PDT by xcamel (No more RINOS - Not Now, Not Ever Again.)
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To: Huck; indcons; W Fan in Cali; Do not dub me shapka broham; sonsofliberty2000; Revolting cat!; ...

FYI...


16 posted on 10/14/2005 5:37:20 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Americans "deserve better" than President Bush's "trust me" approach to the Supreme Court nomination of Harriet Miers, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said Friday, making his sharpest critique yet amid a right-wing revolt over the pick.

Nice pair Rick...try to be that way consistently please.

17 posted on 10/14/2005 5:37:37 PM PDT by wardaddy (Save a cow......eat a vegetarian.)
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To: defconw; Bahbah; tiredoflaundry; Mo1; Howlin; AliVeritas; Miss Marple

Ping....thought you would be interested in this...


18 posted on 10/14/2005 5:38:00 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: trubluolyguy

Defeat Santorum so Bob Casey gets elected? Sorry, I'm going to vote for Santorum. If Specter croaks, Ed Rendell will replace him with a Democrat, probably from Philadelphia. Rendell is very unpopular in Western PA. If Santorum distances himself from Bush on immigration and out of control spending, he might have a chance to win. I don't want two 'Rats representing PA in the Senate so I'm voting Santorum.


19 posted on 10/14/2005 5:40:12 PM PDT by WestSylvanian
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To: Stellar Dendrite
...Sens. Sam Brownback, R-Kan. - who declared he would vote against her....

Brownback already declared that he would vote against her, period, without even a hearing?

Hope not. Didn't think he was that much of a moron.

Dan

20 posted on 10/14/2005 5:40:52 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Labelling Santorum a 'Top' GOP senator is a title open to debate...


22 posted on 10/14/2005 5:43:24 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: Stellar Dendrite

This man is irking my last nerve.


23 posted on 10/14/2005 5:43:32 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: Cautor

Specter likely won't live to see the end of his term, he has cancer, and looks like he's within a year or two of giving up the ghost.

We had our chance to get rid of him last year, and guess who was instrumental and decisive in making sure that a true conservative - Pat Toomey - lost?


24 posted on 10/14/2005 5:44:00 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Safety first! Fasten your kneepads securely before supporting Miers)
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To: BibChr

Brownback did NOT say he was voting against Meiers.


25 posted on 10/14/2005 5:45:27 PM PDT by OldFriend (One Man With Courage Makes a Majority ~ Andrew Jackson)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

You want judicial revolution well you know … we all want to fix the Law
The Left ignores the Constitution well you know … Janice would stick right in their craw
But when you go hating our President Georgie Bush
We’re just gonna kick you hard right in the tush!!!

We say Harriet’s gonna be … all RIGHT … all RIGHT … all RIGHT

You say you want a paper tray-ay-ail well you know … we all want to know her views
You don’t want to see em-i-na-tions well you know … we don’t need any more Dave Soooooooouz
But when you attack the good lady from S M U
You go from the high road right into the doggie dooooooooooooooooooooooo

We say Harriet’s gonna be … all RIGHT … all RIGHT … all RIGHT

You say you don’t trust Dingy’s Par-ar-ty well you know … we despise the dirty rats
You don’t trust our team in the Se-e-nate well you know … It’s so hard to herd those caaaats
But when you go blaming the Prez for the Senate louts
All that I can tell you is just … COUNT ME OUT!!

We say Harriet’s gonna be … all RIGHT … all RIGHT … all RIGHT

You say you don’t know much about Mi-i-ers well you know … we all want to hear her talk
Your not sure if she’s got the qual-al-als well you know … she’ll have to walk the walk
But when you just want her to quit and shout her down
We’re ain’t gonna take you more real than BOZO THE CLOWN

We say Harriet’s gonna be … all RIGHT … all RIGHT … all RIGHT


26 posted on 10/14/2005 5:46:03 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Lashed to the USS George W. Bush: "Damn the Torpedos, Full Miers Ahead!!")
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To: Stellar Dendrite
"Americans "deserve better" than President Bush's "trust me" approach to the Supreme Court nomination of Harriet Miers, Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., said Friday, making his sharpest critique yet amid a right-wing revolt over the pick..."

Bots beware. The most logical explanation for so many folks "jumping the shark" and betraying George Bush, mom and apple pie, and killing kittens, is that their new leader Pat Buchanan has some kind of brainwashing transmitter. Bots beware, do not remove your tinfoil hats lest you also become one of his mesmerized minions, blindly obedient to your new Svengali as you kill kittens.
27 posted on 10/14/2005 5:47:01 PM PDT by fallujah-nuker (Open Borders: The RINOcracy waging class warfare against American wage earners)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
That approach has worked for William Devlin, an evangelical who heads the Urban Family Council in Philadelphia. "Here is a woman who's been very public about her conversion to Christianity. Why can't conservatives trust her?"

America is not a Theocracy! Whether the President nominates an Evangelical, a Catholic, or a Jew is neither here no there so long as the nominee is a strict Constitutionalist. Playing up Miers' religion is not only hypocritical when the RNC chided the Dems for mentioning Roberts' Catholicism, but it also sounds like there's nothing else in her resume. /broken record mode

29 posted on 10/14/2005 5:47:51 PM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: uncbob; mhking; bocopar
If Santorum loses in 2006 it will be because the Philly papers have succesfully whipped up the black vote in Philly and that the democrat fraud machine is working as well as in 2004

Damn! This is being blamed on black people 13 months before it even happens! Can you believe this?


If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

30 posted on 10/14/2005 5:50:15 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: Made in USA
Harriet Miers, when confirmed, will have more power as a swing SCOTUS judge

That's my fear too, that Miers will be another "swing vote" instead of a solid conservative vote.
Hopefully she won't be confirmed so there's nothing to worry about.
31 posted on 10/14/2005 5:52:56 PM PDT by counterpunch (Save the GOP - withdraw Miers now)
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To: thoughtomator
.. guess who was instrumental and decisive in making sure that a true conservative - Pat Toomey - lost?

Don't know much about the politics of that state; but I thought there was a primary race where Spectre won over Toomey.. Or was Toomey aced out through some kind of backroom shenanigans ... ?

32 posted on 10/14/2005 5:53:36 PM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: Stellar Dendrite
That's gonna leave a mark.

He's channeling me, that sonofabitch.

33 posted on 10/14/2005 5:54:19 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Txsleuth

Yes, indeed. The comments are more interesting than the article.


34 posted on 10/14/2005 5:54:47 PM PDT by Bahbah (This is a no Miers zone)
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To: Stellar Dendrite; counterpunch; NittanyLion; bad company
...such as Sens. Sam Brownback, R-Kan. - who declared he would vote against her...

Would?!

He's finalized that decision?

Can someone confirm-or deny-this?

35 posted on 10/14/2005 5:55:12 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: MrNatural

Toomey was near even and gaining ground... then the President intervened and declared Specter to be his man, influencing just enough voters for Specter to win. Otherwise we'd have a solidly conservative Senator Toomey as the junior senator from PA.


36 posted on 10/14/2005 5:55:55 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Safety first! Fasten your kneepads securely before supporting Miers)
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To: WOSG

Remeber - I told you I liked Santorum. ANd he's hitting on main complaint - the people deserve a transparent process.


37 posted on 10/14/2005 5:56:42 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: trubluolyguy

Seems to me it would be difficult to resist W.H. pressure given what we know of their tactics currently, even to the extent of sending people to N.H. to intimidate possible '08 conservative challengers. Something they never do to the RINO's or Libs.

If Santorum is responsible in some manner for ending this, he is deserving of returned "conservative" support.

But, right now, I still fall under the line of thought these people are making noises of discontent to placate the base and will vote for her anyway. We'll see.


38 posted on 10/14/2005 5:56:44 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: Stellar Dendrite

Did Santorum vote for Ginsburg?


39 posted on 10/14/2005 5:57:05 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Stellar Dendrite
Santorum knows that if he backs Miers and she ends up being another O'Connor or Souter, he will be looking for a new occupation by 2007.

What Senator in his right mind would want to tie his or her political future to Miers?

41 posted on 10/14/2005 6:02:10 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: thoughtomator
Ah. Then all the trouble Arlen Specter has given the administration is of its own making.
42 posted on 10/14/2005 6:02:13 PM PDT by MrNatural ("...You want the truth!?...")
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To: WestSylvanian

That is what I am struggling with too.

Casey will be bad news for us if he gets in. I just wish our alternatives were better.


43 posted on 10/14/2005 6:04:04 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy since 1992!)
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To: Ol' Sparky

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/1789701.html
" White House Acknowledges Putting Pressure on Brownback"


45 posted on 10/14/2005 6:08:20 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: uncbob; Gondring
No, it will be because he's running against the progeny of the single most resilient political dynasty in that state.

It will be because he's running against a Democrat who's both pro-life AND pro-gun, in addition to being the most politically adept member of the Casey clan.

It will be because the paltry number of Hispanic Pentecostals that have drifted over to the Republican Party-and which he has assiduously cultivated-do not even begin to equal the number of hard core, conservative Republicans that are outraged over his open borders stance.

But most importantly of all, it will be because he decided to enthusiastically-and without the slightest bit of hesistation-stick a shiv into his fellow conservatives, by backing Arlen Specter and George W. Bush over Pat Toomey.

46 posted on 10/14/2005 6:08:48 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com
Santorum pissed his seat away and now he is trying to drag others down with him. I wish Santorum the best. But, he is in for a tough fight and needs all the friends he can find, yet he burns bridges.

Exactly.

47 posted on 10/14/2005 6:09:14 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: WakeUpAndVote
I heard that Casey was more conservative than his father.

Truth, or hype?

48 posted on 10/14/2005 6:11:10 PM PDT by Do not dub me shapka broham ("We don't want a Supreme Court justice just like George W. Bush. We can do better.")
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To: WestSylvanian
If Santorum distances himself from Bush on immigration and out of control spending, he might have a chance to win.

It's too late....Santorum has already become a GOP country-clubber and will have to answer to PA conservatives.

49 posted on 10/14/2005 6:11:21 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: MrNatural

yep...and GWB is doing it again by supporting super RINO linc chaffee over a more conservative primary challenger.


50 posted on 10/14/2005 6:11:56 PM PDT by flashbunny (Loyalty is earned, not handed out.)
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