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China Says It Has "Better Vaccine" for "Bird Flu"
Reuters Alert Net ^ | 10/15/05 | vanity

Posted on 10/15/2005 6:54:02 AM PDT by genefromjersey

BEIJING, Oct 15 (Reuters) - China has developed a new and better vaccine for use on birds against the avian influenza strain that scientists fear could cause a global pandemic among humans, state media said on Saturday.

The vaccine had the advantage of fighting another common bird disease, as well as the H5N1 influenza strain that has spread from Asia to Europe, state television reported. It identified this as avulavirus APMV-1, also known as Newcastle disease.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biowarfare; china; economic; inluenza; pandemic; vaccine
Earlier this year, I voiced suspicion China was manipulating avian flu,and planned to create a worldwide pandemic...for which it would have the only vaccine.

I was called a nut by many; and some offered suggestions as to how to improve my tinfoil hat.

Others blustered to the effect China wouldn't DARE do such a thing: we would destroy her !

Talk amongst youselves. I'm going back to my padded room to think up some new fantasies.

1 posted on 10/15/2005 6:54:05 AM PDT by genefromjersey
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To: genefromjersey

It wouldnt suprise me. If this is true then I'll have the General Tso's Chicken with a side order of "better vaccine"


2 posted on 10/15/2005 6:58:53 AM PDT by DogBarkTree
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To: genefromjersey
Dude, I'm Worried.
4 posted on 10/15/2005 7:10:55 AM PDT by AlbertWang
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To: genefromjersey

"Bir fu vacine ... 4 fo a dorrar"


5 posted on 10/15/2005 7:15:14 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: All

Sometimes I wonder if China may have created the bird flue. Or perhaps France. France is nasty. The KFC in Saigon (probably like many KFCs in Asia these days) is serving fish on the menu instead of chicken. Perhaps the French developed this Bird Flu so they could increase their chicken exports to Asia. Hey, it's a heck of a lot less far fetched as the "bombing of the levees in New Orleans".

http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html


6 posted on 10/15/2005 7:17:52 AM PDT by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: manwiththehands

"The best way to win a war is to do so without engaging in battle."

Sun Tzu ,Chinese philosopher "The Art of War"


7 posted on 10/15/2005 7:18:49 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: genefromjersey
I was called a nut by many

Maybe you should have listened to them.

Once the bird flu has left the chinese borders, they lose control of the situation. That is a single sick bird or person outside of china will have billions of live viruses inside, any of which can mutate to something china does not have a vaccine for.

8 posted on 10/15/2005 7:23:11 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: MaineVoter2002

Kentucky Fried Fish????


9 posted on 10/15/2005 7:24:36 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; flutters; genefromjersey

>>>>China has developed a new and better vaccine for use on birds against the avian influenza strain that scientists fear could cause a global pandemic among humans, state media said on Saturday.

You DON'T Say!!!

Could it be from all those experiments that have happened in Guangdong Province????

I'm shocked! Shocked I tell you!


10 posted on 10/15/2005 7:25:20 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: genefromjersey

>>>Earlier this year, I voiced suspicion China was manipulating avian flu,and planned to create a worldwide pandemic...for which it would have the only vaccine.

BUMP!!!!!


11 posted on 10/15/2005 7:25:44 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: staytrue

Well they might, but the top scientists there aren't exactly free, they have to carry out what their mad maoist masters call for or else get the lead poisoning.


12 posted on 10/15/2005 7:26:00 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: genefromjersey

I guess it helps to have live humans as their guinea pigs.


13 posted on 10/15/2005 7:28:19 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: The Red Zone

You assumption requires that the chinese leaders are incredibly stupid which if they are, in the long run, we have nothing to fear from them.


14 posted on 10/15/2005 7:28:59 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

ping


15 posted on 10/15/2005 7:28:59 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: staytrue

Yeah, after giving the whole world the flu


16 posted on 10/15/2005 7:30:37 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: genefromjersey

We can just send them some BSE Mickie Dees right back at em


17 posted on 10/15/2005 7:33:52 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: genefromjersey
China has developed a new and better vaccine for use on birds

In my other posts about avian flu, I've been saying that what we need is a vaccine for chickens and turkeys, not a vaccine for humans. My guess is that if this avian flu thing blows up in Bush's face, it will be because it destroys our poultry industry, not because it kills millions of people.

18 posted on 10/15/2005 7:58:11 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

What's to prevent China from preparing version B of the vaccine that will slowly infect Americans with some other deadly disease?


19 posted on 10/15/2005 8:02:24 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: aviator

Nothing, except that we can do the same thing to them, if they want to play that game, and their society is a whole lot more suseptible to disease than ours.


20 posted on 10/15/2005 8:04:52 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: genefromjersey

Does it involve Tiger urine or bear gallbladders?


21 posted on 10/15/2005 8:29:04 AM PDT by waverna
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To: waverna

I suggest,he said, kicking dirt humbly,you read the whole post here:

http://mrmeangenesnews.blogspot.com/2005/10/biowarfare-are-my-predictions-coming.html


22 posted on 10/15/2005 8:49:20 AM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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To: Brilliant
I've been saying that what we need is a vaccine for chickens and turkeys, not a vaccine for humans. My guess is that if this avian flu thing blows up in Bush's face, it will be because it destroys our poultry industry, not because it kills millions of people.

I don't think you can vaccinate the chickens because the vaccine costs a lot and a chicken costs about 2 dollars at wholesale. Several years ago, Hong Kong had a chicken problem and they killed every last chicken, about 20 million I believe, but it did not sink the economy because this was only about 20 million dollars.

23 posted on 10/15/2005 9:03:06 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: genefromjersey

Thanks, Gene.


24 posted on 10/15/2005 9:06:14 AM PDT by waverna
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To: manwiththehands

Numbah one fru vaccine!
Work good, rast rong time!


25 posted on 10/15/2005 9:10:12 AM PDT by yooling (I don't have anything nice to say...)
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To: staytrue

It does seem somewhat impractical, but you've got to remember a couple things. First, the virus attacks humans by getting into the chickens. Second, the poultry industry is a multibillion dollar industry in the US. You're probably talking about 500,000 to a million jobs. And that doesn't consider the vast increase in food prices that would result.


26 posted on 10/15/2005 9:29:41 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: AlbertWang
The American solution to bird flu:


27 posted on 10/15/2005 9:34:43 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: The Red Zone

I think their vaccine is a bullet with a red tip.


28 posted on 10/15/2005 10:02:58 AM PDT by takbodan (.)
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To: Calpernia
LOL...I hope.
29 posted on 10/15/2005 10:12:08 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ('Deserves' got nothing to do with it.)
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To: genefromjersey
China has developed a new and better vaccine for use on birds against the avian influenza strain that scientists fear could cause a global pandemic among humans, state media said on Saturday.

When can we expect Democrats and other Leftists to picket in front of the Chinese embassies, demanding that they give away their vaccine "for the greater good"?

Oh...right. Never.

30 posted on 10/15/2005 10:26:57 AM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: genefromjersey
Actually, the Chinese bird flue vaccine is an attenuated, live New Castle Disease virus (a paramyxovirus) frequently used to prevent New Castle disease in birds. That vaccine can be administeed in drinking water, aerosols and by injections. The bird flu is due to a myxovirus type A with hemaglutinin5(H5) and neuraminidase1(N1), 2 distinct proteins on the viral surface envolope. The immunization of the birds with New Castle Virus does not confer immunity against bird flu H5N1. The bird flu H5N1 is not danger for human unless the virus infect people and mutates - that is not very easy to happens. However there is a potential and a potential is a potential...
31 posted on 10/15/2005 10:36:38 AM PDT by SeeSalt
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To: Judith Anne

ping


32 posted on 10/15/2005 2:26:41 PM PDT by King Prout ("La LAAAA La la la la... oh [bleep!] Gargamel has a FLAMETHROWEEEEEAAAAAAARRRRRGH!")
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To: King Prout

Let's just say that genefromjersey is right, and somehow, China has developed an actual vaccine for the human-to-human bird flu that threatens to encircle the globe.

I tell you right now that me and mine will take our chances with nature and with nature's God. NO vaccine developed by the Chinese to blackmail their way into world domination will EVER enter our bodies.

I'd rather die. I'd rather watch my children die. I'd rather watch my grandchildren die.

No society that FORCES married people to get an abortion if they have more than one child will EVER hold a vaccine over my head.

But I don't believe China. I wouldn't believe them if they said it was daylight at noon, without checking for myself. Those lying bleeps almost let SARS circle the globe with no warning. Had it not been for the courage of a single Chinese scientist who sounded the alarm, millions would have died.

I spit on China, if this is true.


33 posted on 10/15/2005 3:02:06 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Judith Anne
No society that FORCES married people to get an abortion if they have more than one child will EVER hold a vaccine over my head.

I have heard that China has gone to a kinder, gentler coercion in such cases. For a steep fee, they will permit additional children to the initial one. Otherwise it's still abortion millsville.

34 posted on 10/15/2005 3:06:08 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: genefromjersey

10-14-2005 JD Crowe Mobile Register

35 posted on 10/15/2005 3:12:24 PM PDT by blam
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To: SeeSalt

You might want to look at this:

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/10130502/H5N1_HCW_Jakarta.html


36 posted on 10/15/2005 3:46:47 PM PDT by genefromjersey (So much to flame;so little time !)
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