I thought, like... "duh"...
When has there been any doubt? Loral Space, and Los Alamos come to mind, and that isn't even the tip of the iceburg.
The chinese have one thing right, anyway!
Posted on 10/15/2005 7:19:08 AM PDT by Wiz
"China is the biggest [espionage] threat to the US today," David Szady, the US Federal Bureau of Investigation's (FBI) head of counterintelligence, told The Wall Street Journal on 10 August. It is a concern fuelled by a number of Chinese defectors in recent months who claim Beijing is engaged in large-scale intelligence-gathering operations overseas.
Chen Yonglin, the first secretary of the Chinese Consulate General in Sydney, Australia, defected on 4 June. Chen told Australian authorities that Beijing had been overseeing a network of more than 1,000 spies and informers in Australia. These claims were mirrored in Canada in July when Han Guansheng, a former Public Security Bureau official in Shenyang who defected to Canada in 2001, stated publicly that Beijing manages informants in Canada's Chinese community and gathers intelligence on key economic areas.
A second defector in Australia, believed to be a low-level intelligence official named Hao Fengjing, who came over to the Australians shortly after Chen, confirmed that China has more spies in Canada than in any other country. The Canadian Security and Intelligence Service (CSIS) will not comment on individual nations' intelligence activities, but CSIS officials told JIR: "Foreign countries who send students and visiting scientists often use them to obtain proprietary or classified information in Canada."
Europe is also said to be subject to China's scrutiny. The UK's Daily Telegraph reported in July that a Chinese intelligence defector in Belgium who had worked in European universities and companies for more than a decade, has given the Belgian security service (Sûreté de l'Etat) detailed information on hundreds of Chinese spies working at various levels of European industry.
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They'll never figure out this "freedom" biz.
"If Jane's is reporting it, it is likely accurate. It is not official, but we have been fighting Cold War II with China. However, the dumb Western Europeans are likely united with China seeking for military sales, while also being a target of espionage."
A favorite trick seems to be to send "students" to our universities. When they graduate they are hired by our companies as affirmative action hires. It happened to a division of my company and was pretty bad. They caught two of them sending classified research info to China. Turns out they were working for the Chinese army.
Holy crap.
For the Canada ping list.
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"These claims were mirrored in Canada in July when Han Guansheng, a former Public Security Bureau official in Shenyang who defected to Canada in 2001, stated publicly that Beijing manages informants in Canada's Chinese community and gathers intelligence on key economic areas.
A second defector in Australia, believed to be a low-level intelligence official named Hao Fengjing, who came over to the Australians shortly after Chen, confirmed that China has more spies in Canada than in any other country. The Canadian Security and Intelligence Service (CSIS) will not comment on individual nations' intelligence activities, but CSIS officials told JIR: "Foreign countries who send students and visiting scientists often use them to obtain proprietary or classified information in Canada.""
Ah come on. Everyone with influence on the Bush administration knows our threat comes from those guys blowing themselves up with car bombs who think that's the way to take over the world.
Tidbit ping since you have the Flu thread up.
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Seems that, with US universities and colleges on the ropes financially everywhere and all the time (the public schools especially, since legislatures are responsible for their budgets), the default play these days is to try to fill out the enrollment and the college's bottom line with overseas students -- and China has the most.
Call it the collegiate equivalent of the gardener/tomato-harvester shortage. It's all because American women decided they wanted to be career women back in 1968.
Yes, folks, yet another FUBAR situation brought to you by a Kennedy.
"In March l96I, less than two months after assuming office, President John F: Kennedy issued Executive Order 10925, which established the President's Committee on Equal Employment Opportunity. Its mission was to end discrimination in employment by the government and its contractors."
Making the Case for Racial Profiling Bump
We have had a recent serious crack down on foreign nationals access to our work. Anything military. I forget the acronym for theprogram - TCAL or TCAP or something - my thoughts are that these are directly related. PC nature makes us keep the Brits away from the same stuff though.
It's funny - people are saying "why don't they trust the British guys" - duh - they are focused on the Muslims and not understanding the Chinese are the adversary.
Canada ping.
Please let me know if you want on or off this ping list.
Neat anecdote.
I don't understand this part, though:
Call it the collegiate equivalent of the gardener/tomato-harvester shortage. It's all because American women decided they wanted to be career women back in 1968.
What happened in 1968?
I thought women made the move into the workplace during WWII, when all the men were off at war.
We have had a recent serious crack down on foreign nationals access to our work. Anything military. I forget the acronym for theprogram - TCAL or TCAP or something - my thoughts are that these are directly related. PC nature makes us keep the Brits away from the same stuff though.
It's funny - people are saying "why don't they trust the British guys" - duh - they are focused on the Muslims and not understanding the Chinese are the adversary.
In this education/economic cycle, with as many people sated by making their retirement living by franchising a Jack-in-the-Box, with the US economy essentially losing their otherwise potentially more effective brain-and/or-physically-oriented prowess to further wonders of (USA) nanotechnology, travelling the universe or feeding the world's population more efficiently, the pick-up for the slack growth in universities has had to come from foreign nationals, particularly the Chinese. These thereby soak up our best teachers' (well, such as they are) output, letting that well-educated potential fall off into the bit bucket in into the moneybags of the Chinese hierarchy.
I live in a big university town, and have long noted how the Chinese students' efforts are organized by their minders. They're all debriefed and directed in such a way as to spy out valuable information to a maximal efficiency. I won't hire them in my computer-related company any more, that's for sure!
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I thought, like... "duh"...
When has there been any doubt? Loral Space, and Los Alamos come to mind, and that isn't even the tip of the iceburg.
The chinese have one thing right, anyway!
That makes sense.
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