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Did Bush promise to appoint a justice like [in the mold of] Scalia? Have we been misled?
Media Matters ^ | October 13, 2005 | - J.F.

Posted on 10/15/2005 3:15:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: colorcountry

Bork was dead on the money, in spades, with that prediction!!!


101 posted on 10/15/2005 4:05:28 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Jim Robinson
On "Meet the Press" in 1999, the future President Bush said that the justices he most admired were Scalia and Thomas. Bush referred to Scalia during one of the nationally-televised debates as his favorite Supreme Court judge, and the kind he would nominate during his presidential tenure.

http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A308_0_2_0_C/sendpage/index.php

Cliff Kincaid:

But many stories from the campaign period are quite clear about what Bush said. As noted by the Associated Press, "Throughout the year, Bush tried to frame the issue in terms of philosophy, saying his ideal nominees would base their judgments strictly on the words of the Constitution. Pressed to name a justice who fits that mold, Bush pointed to Scalia and Thomas."

Bush said about Scalia: "The reason I like him so much is I got to know him here in Austin when he came down" for a visit. Bush said of him, "He's witty, he's interesting, he's firm." Asked whether he thought Thomas was "the most qualified man" Bush's father could have appointed to the high court, the former Texas governor replied, "I do." Bush said that when it came to appointments to the court, "I'll put competent judges on the bench, people who will strictly interpret the Constitution and will not use the bench to write social policy."

102 posted on 10/15/2005 4:05:48 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Plutarch

LOL!!!!


103 posted on 10/15/2005 4:06:00 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: F16Fighter
"Do either of you recall the exact dates and places you respectively attended Bush rallies?"

1. Labor Day 2000, Naperville Illinois
2. 6 Nov 2000, Green Bay Wisconsin
3. 1 October 2004, Allentown PA
4. 18 October 2004, Marlton New Jersey.

And by the way, I found the text of what he said in Allentown (url below). Here's what he said about judges there " We stand for a culture of life in which every person counts, and every being matters. (Applause.) We stand for marriage and family, which are the foundations of our society. (Applause.) We stand for the appointment of federal judges who know the difference between personal opinion and the strict interpretation of the law. (Applause.) ".

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/10/20041001-10.html

104 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:04 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: Rokke

BS. I heard him say it CLEARLY at the rally I was at. Are you calling me a liar? I sure hope not.

It was said SO OFTEN that there are cartoons depicting a tiny HM standing in a large jello mold shaped like Scalia, for crying out loud.

The WH spin machine is out in force, I see, trying to get Dubya's fat out of the fire here.

This is his "read my lips" moment. Actually, it's 100X worse.

And we're gonna hold him to his Promise. If he continues to try to RAM HM down our throats, there WILL be hell to pay in '06 and '08 - regardless of whether that means HRC in the WH or not.


105 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:29 PM PDT by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: Paladin2
Is Miers more qualified than Roberts, Scalia or Thomas? The answer is clearly no - not even in the same league.

Asked whether Thomas, who likewise opposes abortion, was "the most qualified man" Bush's father could have appointed to the high court, the Texas governor replied, "I do."

I guess it depends on your definition of the term "qualified" eh?

106 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:43 PM PDT by AmishDude (If Miers isn't qualified, neither are you and you have no right to complain about any SC decision.)
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To: Frank T
I tend to trust the opinions of such people, and not bootlickers' like yours.

That's cool. It's important to know who is easily led.

107 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:45 PM PDT by jess35
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To: Jim Robinson
And Governor Bush has declared to the anti-choice groups

So... we search the archives/transcripts/press releases, etc., of speeches Bush gave to those groups.

108 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:54 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: AmishDude

I am no intellect on constitutional law. Just a common man.

But, the least I expect from this president is someone like Roberts. What a great nomination!


109 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:58 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: Jim Robinson
Even those the Bush Administration has solicited to defend Miers agree that Bush promised justices in the Scalia/Thomas mold:

"President Bush promised in 2000 and again in 2004 that he would only nominate strict-constructionist, original-intent judges and justices in the Scalia-Thomas mold," Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, said in reference to two of the court's most conservative justices.

110 posted on 10/15/2005 4:08:49 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: AmericaUnited
[While vetting candidates for nomination] then she [Miers] would challenge it, asking, 'But what specifically in those opinions strongly suggests that this is someone who ascribes to judicial restraint?'

So, she gets to ask that question, "what specifically in those opinions strongly suggests ..." about the nominee candidates. I wonder if the candidate as disqualified if the answer was -- crickets --.

111 posted on 10/15/2005 4:09:08 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: F16Fighter

I remember the city. Not the date. But I could probably dig it up if I had to.

I'd LOVE to have a recording from that rally, and ram it right down his..

I am disgusted with Dubya. He has turned out to be nothing more than another Politician, making empty promises. (Gee, what a surprise).

Quite simply - he said it. Both my wife and I remember him saying it. It was the biggest "applause line" of the night.

He is simply trying to get his bacon out of the fire, and it ain't workin.

Just wait until a recording turns up. I can't wait.


112 posted on 10/15/2005 4:10:16 PM PDT by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, I wish it were so but I seem to recall Bush saying this in an event that I attended-- a rally about 5 months before the General in 2004.


113 posted on 10/15/2005 4:10:53 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: prisoner6

You are right about needing to look ahead. We need to come up with a new, long-term plan.


114 posted on 10/15/2005 4:10:58 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (The sacrifices of God are a broken and contrite heart. Ps. 51:17)
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To: jstolzen
"I heard him say it CLEARLY at the rally I was at."

What rally were you at?

115 posted on 10/15/2005 4:11:32 PM PDT by Rokke
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To: DoughtyOne
. It's really quite amazing to watch some of you throw folks overboard just because they disagreed with this choice.

I never liked Bork. I didn't have to throw him "overboard", He did that all by himself when he came out against the 2nd amendment. He's living proof that an education doesn't make someone an expert.

116 posted on 10/15/2005 4:13:19 PM PDT by jess35
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To: dc-zoo

I think it's unfair to prejudge this woman before she has a fair hearing. The kind of vitriolic insults she has suffered in the past two weeks is disgraceful IMO.
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Some of these thin-skinned pundits would have their panties in a wad if they were verbally abused as much as Miers has been.

I half expect her to show up at the hearing with Coulter and Kristol's teeth hanging from her charm bracelet.

In any case, I look forward to the Hearings following the Full Up or Down Vote by the Full Senate. In or Out that's ok. If we must send up another Batter, the Nuclear (Simple Majority) Option should be implemented first.


117 posted on 10/15/2005 4:13:19 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I've entered the snapdragon part of my ....Part of me has snapped...the rest is draggin'.")
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To: jstolzen


Did Bush say it at "every city" or are you back tracking to just the one you were at?


118 posted on 10/15/2005 4:13:25 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Paladin2

Perhaps I shouldn't have said "EVERY" rally, because I clearly wasn't at ALL of them.

But the rally I was at ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY had the "justices in the mold of Scalia and Thomas line". It brought down the house.


119 posted on 10/15/2005 4:13:29 PM PDT by jstolzen (All it takes for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing - Edmund Burke)
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To: Paladin2

People keep talking about the Supremes as though they did all their own stuff in their own little monastic room.

Hogwash.

The only reasonable question is will she be a team player on the side that characterizes Bushes and Reagan more than the side that characterizes Clinton. She is certainly going to get wooed from both ends. I just can't see her putting up with much of Ginsburg or Breyer, however.


120 posted on 10/15/2005 4:13:33 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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