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Times editor says she regrets Miller case
ap on Yahoo ^ | 10/15/05 | Larry McShane - ap

Posted on 10/15/2005 4:43:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

NEW YORK - Shortly after tasting freedom for the first time in nearly three months, New York Times reporter Judith Miller went for a massage and a manicure. She enjoyed a martini, a steak dinner and the fresh air.

That was the easy part. The once-jailed reporter's subsequent return to the paper's 43rd Street newsroom, where she was viewed as a polarizing figure, was fraught with anxiety. She found her co-workers "confused and perplexed" about her jail term for protecting a Bush administration source, and about her paper's apparent inability to rein in the Pulitzer Prize- winner, according to a lengthy article posted Saturday on the Times' Web site.

The article was the newspaper's first behind-the-scenes look at the information provided to Miller by Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff and how it landed her behind bars for 85 days. It marked the second time in 2 1/2 years that the paper published an investigation of itself, following the 2003 Jayson Blair plagiarism and fraud debacle.

Times Managing Editor Jill Abramson, asked what she regretted about the Times' handling of the Miller case, replied simply: "The entire thing."

Miller defended herself in the piece, saying the paper had "everything to be proud of and nothing to apologize for."

Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald is investigating whether crimes were committed when Bush administration officials leaked the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters. Plame's covert status was exposed at a time when her husband, former U.S. Ambassador Joseph Wilson, was charging that the White House manipulated intelligence about Iraq's nuclear capabilities before the war.

Miller, 57, was released Sept. 29 after being jailed for her steadfast refusal to identify the source who leaked her the information. After getting the source's direct approval, she finally identified him as I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's chief of staff.

In a separate first-person piece on the Times' Web site, however, she said she testified before a grand jury that she could not recall if Libby was the source who told her about "Valerie Flame," as the name appeared in her notebook.

"Mr. Fitzgerald asked me about another entry in my notebook, where I had written the words "Valerie Flame," clearly a reference to Ms. Plame. Mr. Fitzgerald wanted to know whether the entry was based on my conversations with Mr. Libby. I said I didn't think so. I said I believed the information came from another source, whom I could not recall," she wrote.

The Times' companion story portrayed Miller as a divisive figure in the newsroom, with a few colleagues refusing to work with her. She was quoted as once telling a colleague, "I can do whatever I want."

Along with the freedom came problems. Miller's articles about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in the months before the war were "totally wrong," she acknowledged in one of the stories posted Saturday. Previously, the Times had published an editor's note criticizing some of its prewar coverage; five of the six stories labeled as questionable were written or co-written by Miller, but the note did not specifically name her.

Todd S. Purdum, a Washington-based reporter for the newspaper, said many on the staff were "troubled and puzzled by Judy's seeming ability to operate outside of conventional reportorial channels and managerial controls."

The article noted that editors "found her hard to control," and that the paper's management allowed Miller to make many of the major decisions in the Plame case herself. For example, it said, Executive Editor Bill Keller and Publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. never reviewed the notes of her crucial conversation with Libby.

"This car had her hand on the wheel because she was the one at risk," Sulzberger was quoted as saying.

Recent stories indicated morale in the Times newsroom was lower than during the Blair fiasco, which led to the resignation of Executive Editor Howell Raines. The Times story pointed out that the paper was scooped on the Miller story more than once, and that Keller — who knew the source's identity — kept it from his own reporters.

It also noted that, after Miller's release, she made a newsroom speech "claiming victories for press freedom. Her colleagues responded with restrained applause, seemingly as mystified by the outcome of her case as the public."

Miller, one of a team of Times reporters that won a 2002 Pulitzer for coverage of the Middle East, was in Los Angeles on Saturday at a California First Amendment Coalition event to present an award to perhaps the most famous confidential source ever — W. Mark Felt, the former FBI official known as "Deep Throat." She declined to say anything beyond what appeared in the Times' stories.

Although the paper was resolute in its support of Miller, championing its reporter in more than 15 editorials, Keller acknowledged in the Times' lengthy piece that it was a less-than-ideal case for their efforts.

"I wish it had been a clear-cut whistle-blower case," he was quoted as saying. "I wish it had been a reporter who came with less public baggage."

As the paper observed, "Neither The Times nor its cause has emerged unbruised."

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1 posted on 10/15/2005 4:43:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Ah but the real thing was she wasn't protecting any "Bush Admin source". She was protecting MSM and the demoncRATS.


2 posted on 10/15/2005 4:46:14 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: lilylangtree

warmed over Crow ain't so bad after ya already had a helping of it. ;-)


3 posted on 10/15/2005 4:48:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

The more I read about this and the less I understand about this case, the more convinced I become that this all happened because Judith Miller wanted to be the lead character in a "Chicks in Prison" movie.


4 posted on 10/15/2005 4:49:58 PM PDT by Bernard (The most dangerous religion in America is liberals who worship at the altar of big government.)
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To: NormsRevenge

So it was always anger about protecting the Bush administration.......and they're not even ashamed to put that in print.


5 posted on 10/15/2005 4:50:15 PM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
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To: lilylangtree

'when Bush administration officials leaked the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters.'

This is not a true statement. No leak has been revealed. Joe Wilson told many people what his wife's occupation was. He probably told this Miller ditz.


6 posted on 10/15/2005 4:57:23 PM PDT by abclily
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To: NormsRevenge

When Idiots are talking, give them the microphone with maximum volume...


8 posted on 10/15/2005 4:58:22 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (..yep, thats right, I'm an infidel......so what....)
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To: NormsRevenge

She wasn't protecting an administration source. She was and is protecting Plame.


9 posted on 10/15/2005 4:59:53 PM PDT by marron
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To: OldFriend

"So it was always anger about protecting the Bush administration.......and they're not even ashamed to put that in print."

Never mind that Miller just said under threat of perjury her source wasn't Libby.

They have no shame. Larry McShane is a paid liar. Like so many in the press.

This was always about the press picking up a smear (from Mr. Plame) and trying to make it into a fact even though it was a lie.

People like McShane are simply whores paid to promote that lie, no matter the facts.

Of course Miller was paid to sit on the truth for as long as she possibly could. (And probably got something like $15K a day for her troubles.)

They are all whores. Except that whores have integrity.


10 posted on 10/15/2005 5:01:23 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: abclily
Egg Zackley.......Wilson outed his wife by being braggadocios..
11 posted on 10/15/2005 5:01:55 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (..yep, thats right, I'm an infidel......so what....)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Miller, 57, was released Sept. 29 after being jailed for her steadfast refusal to identify the source who leaked her the information. After getting the source's direct approval, she finally identified him as I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's chief of staff."

Am I missing something here? Today, it was revealed that Miller told the Judge she could not recall who told her the info, yet the article above tells me she said it was Liby.

Why doesn't the judge slap her arse back in jail for contempt?


12 posted on 10/15/2005 5:04:10 PM PDT by Rebelbase ("There are millions of mediocre Americans, and they, too, deserve to be represented in the USSC. -RH)
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To: NormsRevenge

New York Times reporter Judith Miller, right, leaves U. S. District Court in Washington with her attorney Robert Bennett, left, Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2005. Miller gave prosecutors details of a previously undisclosed conversation she had with Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, adding a new dimension to the criminal investigation into the leak of a covert CIA officer's identity. Notes by the New York Times' Judith Miller that were turned over in a criminal investigation contain the name of a covert CIA officer, but the reporter has told prosecutors she cannot recall who disclosed the name, the newspaper reported Saturday. (AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais)


13 posted on 10/15/2005 5:07:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NormsRevenge

What's that quote? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills? This whole thing doesn't make any sense to me. Say what you want against this woman, I still can't believe she was sent to jail over this BS.

It makes my life look sensible by comparison.


14 posted on 10/15/2005 5:07:16 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Sam Hill

This entire article is a steaming pile.


If there's any consolation, it's that this entire investigation happened because the NY Times campaigned for it.


Objective media my arse!


15 posted on 10/15/2005 5:07:36 PM PDT by gogeo (Often wrong but seldom in doubt.)
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To: ThreePuttinDude
Wilson outed his wife by being braggadocios..

According to some "reporter" on television this week JOE WILSON WAS GIVING INFORMATION ABOUT HIS WIFE WORKING AT CIA ON "BACKGROUND" to any "reporter" that would listen.

16 posted on 10/15/2005 5:08:20 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: NormsRevenge

New York Times reporter Judith Miller, center, accompanied by New York Times Publisher Arthur Sulzberger, Jr., rear left, as she leaves the courthouse in Washington in this Sept. 30, 2005 file photo. Miller testified before a grand jury Friday, ending her silence in the investigation into whether White House officials leaked the name of a covert CIA operative, Valerie Plame. Notes by the New York Times' Judith Miller that were turned over in a criminal investigation contain the name of a covert CIA officer, but the reporter has told prosecutors she cannot recall who disclosed the name, the newspaper reported Saturday. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak, File)


If that isn't the biggest sh*t-eating grin.

Thank God for Brite White.


17 posted on 10/15/2005 5:08:53 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Monthly Donor spoken Here. Go to ... https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Rebelbase

"Am I missing something here? Today, it was revealed that Miller told the Judge she could not recall who told her the info, yet the article above tells me she said it was Liby."

This has always been about one thing--putting across the lie that the White House outed Plame.

Even Miller's sworn testimony will not stop that. For the DNC/AP this is an established fact because it's what they want to believe.

It's just another lesson in their mendacity, to stack on top of the thousands of prior ones.

The AP and the NY Times are simply the propaganda agents for the DNC.

Whatever "facts" they happen to report along the way is only done to sugarcoat the message.


18 posted on 10/15/2005 5:10:19 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: kcvl

"According to some "reporter" on television this week JOE WILSON WAS GIVING INFORMATION ABOUT HIS WIFE WORKING AT CIA ON "BACKGROUND" to any "reporter" that would listen."

Just as you and I and some others around here had surmised all along.

Wilson told about his wife's job to gain himself some street cred with the reporters he was hawking his story to.

He almost certainly told someone at the NY Times. If not, Miller herself, somebody who probably later told Miller.

This is not at all complicated. It's only made to look that way by the media who want to use this lie to throw as much feces as they can.

To the media, news is just their jihad by other means.


19 posted on 10/15/2005 5:13:00 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: kcvl
The MSM is a disgrace.

Lardball, Chris Matthews is depressed today.

Not enough Dead Iraqis or US Troops in today's election to make Matthews happy.

Let's keep up the scandal watch.

-Limbaugh targeted by a Lib D.A. in Palm Beach County.
-Delay targeted by a Lib D.A. in Texas.
-Frist investigated by the SEC after Libs complain about his stocks.
-Rove, Libby, etc. dealing with the sludge of Joe Wilson and Chuck Schumer via a Special Prosecutor.

It's all a DISGRACE. The MSM can not be trusted. Lib Prosecutors can not be trusted.
20 posted on 10/15/2005 5:13:24 PM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: Sam Hill
And their propaganda is taken verbatim by network and local newscasts and newspapers.

It also goes overseas.

It is one giant monopoly, cant' we sue?
21 posted on 10/15/2005 5:17:16 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: NormsRevenge
Miller, 57, was released Sept. 29 after being jailed for her steadfast refusal to identify the source who leaked her the information. After getting the source's direct approval, she finally identified him as I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Cheney's chief of staff.

In a separate first-person piece on the Times' Web site, however, she said she testified before a grand jury that she could not recall if Libby was the source who told her about "Valerie Flame," as the name appeared in her notebook.

"Mr. Fitzgerald asked me about another entry in my notebook, where I had written the words "Valerie Flame," clearly a reference to Ms. Plame. Mr. Fitzgerald wanted to know whether the entry was based on my conversations with Mr. Libby. I said I didn't think so. I said I believed the information came from another source, whom I could not recall," she wrote.

...The Times story pointed out that the paper was scooped on the Miller story more than once, and that Keller — who knew the source's identity — kept it from his own reporters.

Let's see if I got this right. Libby was the source, but then Miller could not recall who the sourse was. Then the source was someone else, who Miller couldn't recall. BUT her boss, Keller, knew the source's identity and has kept it secret.

From what I've read, Keller hasn't confirmed or denied that Libby was a source. Has Keller gone before the Grand Jury?

22 posted on 10/15/2005 5:19:18 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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To: Sam Hill
Miller has the odious Bob Bennett for her attorney.

He is a stranger to the truth and had to be admonished by the Court for continuing to lie about Paula Jones.

The man is pure garbage.

I still can't figure out what Miller was hiding.

23 posted on 10/15/2005 5:20:06 PM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
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To: OldFriend

"I still can't figure out what Miller was hiding."

Miller told Libby about Plame. She can't lie about that because she is afraid the WH might have automatically taped all those calls.

She is hiding where she got the info. She almost certainly got it from either a) Wilson b) somebody at the NYT, such as Kristoff, who had gotten it from Wilson.

To keep her job and her career as a journalist she had to lie. Also, the $1.2 million dollar bribe from Viacom (who own Simon & Schuster and CBS) didn't hurt.

Her job was to drag this out as long as possible to give the media long enough to establish their lies about Libby and Rove as fact in the public's mind.

She did that. Congrats all around.


24 posted on 10/15/2005 5:24:41 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: NormsRevenge
Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald is investigating whether crimes were committed when Bush administration officials leaked the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters.

When has this been established as a 'fact'?

Did I miss something here?

25 posted on 10/15/2005 5:26:37 PM PDT by IoCaster ("That to live by one man's will became the cause of all men's misery." - Richard Hooker)
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To: IoCaster

Some think that if a lie is repeated ofen enough it will become the truth.


26 posted on 10/15/2005 5:30:23 PM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
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To: NormsRevenge
Times Managing Editor Jill Abramson, asked what she regretted about the Times' handling of the Miller case, replied simply: "The entire thing."

Yeah, because all your efforts to demonize Bush and creat a Rove-Gate have come to nothing.

27 posted on 10/15/2005 5:36:58 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: new yorker 77; Sam Hill
Todd S. Purdum, a Washington-based reporter for the newspaper, said many on the staff were "troubled and puzzled by Judy's seeming ability to operate outside of conventional reportorial channels and managerial controls."

And Dee Dee Myers', former CLINTON administration White house spokesperson, HUSBAND.

28 posted on 10/15/2005 5:37:02 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: IoCaster

It was never established as a fact. The MSM has just kept repeating it as a fact. Joe Wilson outed his wife every chance he got.


29 posted on 10/15/2005 5:41:10 PM PDT by abclily
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To: IoCaster

The Times story pointed out that the paper was scooped on the Miller story more than once, and that Keller — who knew the source's identity — kept it from his own reporters.

How does Keller know the id of the source but Miller cannot recall?


30 posted on 10/15/2005 5:42:07 PM PDT by Jecheon
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To: abclily

He would have outed her more if he had gotten more chances.


31 posted on 10/15/2005 5:43:42 PM PDT by abclily
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To: OldFriend
Some think that if a lie is repeated often enough it will become the truth.

This is insane. The media scumbags are out of control with this bullsh!t.

32 posted on 10/15/2005 5:45:24 PM PDT by IoCaster ("That to live by one man's will became the cause of all men's misery." - Richard Hooker)
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To: Jecheon

"How does Keller know the id of the source but Miller cannot recall?"

And why doesn't she just ask him to refresh her memory?

And why doesn't Fitzgerald subpoena him?

This whole article (actually, the original NYT CYA one) is just hilarious.

A child of ten could see it is a tissue of lies.


33 posted on 10/15/2005 5:46:42 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: NormsRevenge
Miller's articles about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq in the months before the war were "totally wrong," she acknowledged in one of the stories posted Saturday. Previously, the Times had published an editor's note criticizing some of its prewar coverage;

I believe Miller was the NYT foremost reporter on WMD pre-911. This fact also has a lot to do with the current imbroglio.

Miller used a bad source, Chalabi. And her reporting had a LOT to do with the WMD false info.

34 posted on 10/15/2005 5:47:49 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Sam Hill

"It's just another lesson in their mendacity, to stack on top of the thousands of prior ones. "

You tell 'em, Big Daddy! (one of my very favorite movies)


35 posted on 10/15/2005 5:52:20 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Siena Dreaming
Yeah, because all your efforts to demonize Bush and creat a Rove-Gate have come to nothing.

Don't forget Jill Abramson has been a "lefty" for years. She and Jane Mayer co-authored the book, Silent Justice, the Selling of Clarence Thomas. I would like to see a Special Prosecutor investigating The NYT, left-wing journalists (not) who have been involved in promoting an investigation of the WH for every imaginable wrong they can think up.

I hope she has had some speech therapy. She used to talk through her nose and whined as she talked!

36 posted on 10/15/2005 5:52:22 PM PDT by PeskyOne
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To: NormsRevenge

When are these people ever going to wake up; they are the sacrificial lambs where the ugly elites are concerned. They don't play honrably and will throw anyone to lions if they get in their way.


37 posted on 10/15/2005 5:53:30 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Sam Hill

I read this article on Drudge, and it raised more questions than answers. So I rushed to FR to get some insight-nice to see that I am not alone in my confusion.


38 posted on 10/15/2005 5:54:32 PM PDT by Jecheon
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To: IoCaster
It was ever thus. I can remember the media from the early 50s.....and have read about how the media went after Nixon when he beat Helen Gahagen Brown......because she was a communist.

The media hates America and always has.

39 posted on 10/15/2005 5:57:19 PM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
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To: RavenATB

I do love Ives his character and his repetition of that word. But for some reason mostly all I remember is some woman in a slip. Don't know why.


40 posted on 10/15/2005 5:58:08 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: NormsRevenge

I think I get it now. This reporter is in the midst of the biggest news story of her entire career and she can't remember who it was who gave her the name that put this spark to the gas.

It's sort of like asking someone who rode in JFK's car in the parade in Dallas if they can remember where they were when JFK got shot, and having them tell you they can't...


41 posted on 10/15/2005 6:03:49 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Sam Hill

It was, and still is a fabulous movie.


42 posted on 10/15/2005 6:05:27 PM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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She is hiding where she got the info. She almost certainly got it from either a) Wilson b) somebody at the NYT, such as Kristoff, who had gotten it from Wilson.

You left off the most likely...c) Plame herself.

Miller's beat was WMD. Plame's job at CIA was WMD. They almost certainly knew each other. The liklihood is that Miller couldn't identify her original source because, to do so, would identify her source for multiple stories on WMD and related classified material.

43 posted on 10/15/2005 6:15:34 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: NormsRevenge
As the paper observed, "Neither The Times nor its cause has emerged unbruised."

I wonder what the "cause" was.

44 posted on 10/15/2005 6:18:43 PM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think both Rove and Libby have their conversations with reporters on tape. This is all about Reporters commiting PERJURY.


45 posted on 10/15/2005 6:27:24 PM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: NormsRevenge

<"Mr. Fitzgerald asked me about another entry in my notebook, where I had written the words "Valerie Flame," clearly a reference to Ms. Plame. Mr. Fitzgerald wanted to know whether the entry was based on my conversations with Mr. Libby. I said I didn't think so. I said I believed the information came from another source, whom I could not recall," she wrote.>

Translation - A democrat told me about Valerie Plame.


46 posted on 10/15/2005 6:30:22 PM PDT by hags
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"I believed the information came from another source, whom I could not recall"

I've said it from the start, there was no source. It's what the nyt employees do.

47 posted on 10/15/2005 6:36:45 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: NormsRevenge
California First Amendment Coalition event to present an award to perhaps the most famous confidential source ever — W. Mark Felt, the former FBI official known as "Deep Throat

I wonder how the California First Amendment Coalition is funded?

48 posted on 10/15/2005 6:39:28 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: NormsRevenge
"Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald is investigating whether crimes were committed when Bush administration officials leaked the identity of covert CIA officer Valerie Plame to reporters"

For damn sake, who said and what proof. The word of a purely insane jacka@@ women who has the mentality of a pasture paddy.
49 posted on 10/15/2005 7:38:07 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Sam Hill
Dare I say it? You are en fuego!
50 posted on 10/15/2005 8:11:52 PM PDT by Buckhead
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