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Cowboy George (Allen) hailed as the Reagan for í08
Sunday Times ^ | October 16, 2005 | Sarah Baxter

Posted on 10/15/2005 6:03:01 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative

A TOBACCO chewing, horse-riding, cowboy boot wearing politician called George could be the Republican party’s choice for president in 2008. With George W Bush in political freefall, speculation is intensifying about his successor. The rising star among conservatives is George Allen, senator for Virginia and former governor of the state.

The son of a famous American football coach, Allen is a minor figure compared with prominent rivals such as Senator John McCain and Rudolph Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, but he is more politically mainstream and potentially acceptable to Republican stalwarts.

Bruce Allen, general manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers pro-football team, has no doubt that his elder brother can go all the way to the White House. “He has always been a leader,” he said. “I would never underestimate what he is able to do. He’s very real and that’s what makes him special.”

Those close to Allen’s unofficial campaign place his chances of winning his party’s nomination at 60-40. Although no senator has won the presidency since John F Kennedy, Allen has hands-on experience as a governor and a folksy, populist touch.

No matter how smart his suit and tie, he is never separated from his “lucky” cowboy boots. Nor will he ever give up his chewing tobacco and spittoon, according to an insider, although he is said to be a Virginia gentleman rather than a Texas swaggerer like Bush.

Sean Hannity, an influential right-wing radio and television host, has been boosting Allen’s prospects by comparing him with Ronald Reagan, a friend of Allen’s father, and declaring him capable of winning every state in the South against Hillary Clinton, the Democrat favourite.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008election; acp; allen; allen2008; bush; cnim; conservatism; georgeallen; gopprimary; reagan; republican
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1 posted on 10/15/2005 6:03:09 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Cowboy? I thought his family was associated with the Redskins.


2 posted on 10/15/2005 6:04:23 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (France is an example of retrograde chordate evolution.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

amen....there is hope after all


3 posted on 10/15/2005 6:06:16 PM PDT by jneesy (certified southern right wing hillbilly nutjob)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I sure hope he's the next Reagan. He's my favorite candidate for '08.


4 posted on 10/15/2005 6:07:14 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: West Coast Conservative; Gipper08

i used to think allen was someone i could support for 2008 but...didnt allen want bush to meet with cindy?

also:

"Sen. George Allen Supports 'Hate Crimes' Bill"
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/10/6/112714.shtml


if you guys want a REAL reagan/goldwater type, look at mike pence:

http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp

we need a real conservative in 2008...mike pence seems like the real deal



5 posted on 10/15/2005 6:09:07 PM PDT by Stellar Dendrite ( Mike Pence for President!!! http://acuf.org/issues/issue34/050415pol.asp)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Cowboy George (Allen) hailed as the Reagan for ’08

As long as he's not "the Bush" for 08.

There is no comparison for Reagan. Just let George Allen be George allen, if that's not good enough, so be it.

6 posted on 10/15/2005 6:09:10 PM PDT by lewislynn (Status quo today is the result of eliminating the previous status quo. Be careful what you wish for)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I've met George Allen a number of times, he is the "real thing." I think as time goes by he will gain more and more support.


7 posted on 10/15/2005 6:10:39 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Maybe...if he plays sidekick to Condi.


8 posted on 10/15/2005 6:10:58 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

hehe


9 posted on 10/15/2005 6:11:45 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: West Coast Conservative

It would work for me.

Southern/Western Governors elected President in the past 50 yrs.

Bush
Clinton
Carter
Johnson
Reagan.

Senators
Jack Kennedy.


10 posted on 10/15/2005 6:12:21 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (Nagin Cried, People died.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

It's possible. I know in 1997, I had never heard of George W. Bush.

Can you imagine left-wing reaction to George Allen winning the presidency? "And we thought Bush was bad!"


11 posted on 10/15/2005 6:12:51 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Do you honestly think a pro-abortion candidate who has never held elective office has a chance?


12 posted on 10/15/2005 6:13:00 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Brandonmark

FYI! Great article on Senator Allen!


13 posted on 10/15/2005 6:13:01 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII MOM -- Allen in 2008!)
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To: pcottraux

He was mine until I learned he voted for the "hate crimes" bill. I HATE this pc sh-t


14 posted on 10/15/2005 6:14:24 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: jneesy

He needs much more face time on the puke networks. He would make an good C&C.


15 posted on 10/15/2005 6:14:48 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Stellar Dendrite

There are a few problems...he also voted for McCain's amendment on terrorists getting better treatment....

I would like to know why he did that...plus, when he says hurricanes are "easy", I wonder if Virginia has ever had the destruction that the Gulf did this summer, while he was in charge...AS GOVERNOR...which means it was MORE his job than the POTUS'.


16 posted on 10/15/2005 6:14:56 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: PhiKapMom

Go ALLEN!!!


17 posted on 10/15/2005 6:15:44 PM PDT by holdonnow
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To: wagglebee

I think you're overstating her position on abortion. If I recall her statement correctly, she said she didn't want to see it go away entirely. Even so, if she pledged to carry the Republican platform forward in spite of personal convictions, she would be a go. Hillary is no more qualified and a hell of a lot more destructive.


18 posted on 10/15/2005 6:16:30 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I think Allen may be the real deal.


19 posted on 10/15/2005 6:16:37 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: PhiKapMom; defconw

I DID like the part about his having a "mean streak"....I think I would like to see some righteous anger right about now....


20 posted on 10/15/2005 6:16:53 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'd vote for him


21 posted on 10/15/2005 6:16:53 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: West Coast Conservative

Yeah well, they will smear him the moment he has to compromise, just as Reagan and Bush had to if he is elected.


22 posted on 10/15/2005 6:17:16 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I was going to say, his Dad would be rolling in his grave if he saw that headline.


23 posted on 10/15/2005 6:18:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (Flower Mound, TX)
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To: DLfromthedesert

"He was mine until I learned he voted for the "hate crimes" bill."

Still, that's not nearly as bad as some things other candidates have done.


24 posted on 10/15/2005 6:18:08 PM PDT by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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To: West Coast Conservative

If Condi doesn't run I my early support goes to George Allen. I agree with what Rush said about him the other day.


25 posted on 10/15/2005 6:18:34 PM PDT by buckeyesrule (Go Bucks! Beat Indiana!)
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To: Howlin; onyx; Mo1; ohioWfan

A "Great-article-on-George-Allen-for-your-perusal" BUMP!


26 posted on 10/15/2005 6:18:39 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: Stellar Dendrite

I live in VA I'm sith you brother, George as a good man but he ain't the man if you know what I mean.


27 posted on 10/15/2005 6:18:52 PM PDT by kublia khan (Absolute war brings total victory)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Interesting article. I'd like to hear more before I judge. It's way too early and this is the first time I've noticed him.


28 posted on 10/15/2005 6:19:57 PM PDT by no more apples (When days like this happen, prayer saves me.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I just don't think Rice has a chance of being the nominee; however, I think she would be perfect for the VP slot. One concern I have with Condi is the fact that she has never been married, I can see the left and the media making all sorts of insinuations about this.


29 posted on 10/15/2005 6:20:32 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Txsleuth
.I think I would like to see some righteous anger right about now....

This country needs it, especially after 5 years of Liberals trying to trash it, and undermine it.

30 posted on 10/15/2005 6:20:49 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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To: pcottraux

George Allen is my early favorite.


31 posted on 10/15/2005 6:21:26 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: pcottraux

You're right. He's better than McCain or Frist, that's for sure.


32 posted on 10/15/2005 6:21:59 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: DLfromthedesert
"He was mine until I learned he voted for the "hate crimes" bill. I HATE this pc sh-t"

But people who commit crimes either hate or love those they hurt. Love conquers all, but hate is yucky. Do you have a problem with that? And why do you hate your pc sh-t? You seem quite confused and probably shouldn't be allowed to vote in your current state of mind. Chill, Republicans and Democrats differ...just ask Nancy Palosi. Unfortunately Reagan is dead. Fortunately, we got to see him in action.
33 posted on 10/15/2005 6:23:20 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: West Coast Conservative

"Democrats are pressing Ben Affleck, the Hollywood actor, to stand against [Allen, for Senate]."

That is just very sad.


34 posted on 10/15/2005 6:24:50 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: wagglebee

Do you think that Condi, as a single person, would have a problem against Hillay, a woman without a husband by normal standards and a strongly suspected lesbian?

Condi would crush the beast into to pavement.


35 posted on 10/15/2005 6:25:00 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Do you know Landru, Brother?)
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To: lewislynn

Agreed. Bush was Almost a new Reagan in 2001-2003...its a wonder how someone with 88% approval can drop to 45%


36 posted on 10/15/2005 6:25:34 PM PDT by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first ammendment doesnt work, use the 2nd)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Love George Allen!!

And, this "George" is actually a conservative!

Another Reagan, definitely not another "W" - who was a big improvement over Clinton, but, aside for a few issues, is pretty far left.
37 posted on 10/15/2005 6:26:04 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Mike Pence is the one 08 potential candidate who will ALWAYS put put principle above politics and will always fight for limited government.Mike Pence will never let us down.Some of the other potential candidates have compromised with Big Government way too much.


38 posted on 10/15/2005 6:26:09 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: Stellar Dendrite
but...didnt allen want bush to meet with cindy?

No, he did not.

BEFORE she began her media circus he said "I would have met with her." Afterwards, he said no.

He never said Bush should meet with her.

39 posted on 10/15/2005 6:26:09 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (You are stuck on stupid, Iím not going to answer that question ~ General Honore)
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To: EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; GeorgeW23225; ...

George Allen ping.


40 posted on 10/15/2005 6:26:40 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (You are stuck on stupid, Iím not going to answer that question ~ General Honore)
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To: gathersnomoss

LOL!!! What in the world have YOU been smoking?


41 posted on 10/15/2005 6:26:45 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: vetsvette

So you think Allen is to the right of Bush??? I strongly disagree with that.


42 posted on 10/15/2005 6:27:22 PM PDT by Gipper08 (Mike Pence in 2008)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I was floating the duo of Allen and JC Watts the other day...but, there is a long time, for that.

I think that even though there is a "bias" against Senators, the fact that he was a Governor first, should help him.

His brother is GM of Tampa Bay Buccaneers...another POTUS with a brother in Florida....now we need his bro to run for Gov.!!! LOL


43 posted on 10/15/2005 6:27:29 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: West Coast Conservative

I read the header so quick I thought it said "Boy George".


44 posted on 10/15/2005 6:28:41 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: Gipper08

I met him at Phyllis Schlafly's event during the Convention in NYC. He was very nice; very down to earth, and a committed to the issues he stands for.


45 posted on 10/15/2005 6:29:47 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert (Texas Cowboy...you da man!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'll take Allen into consideration. I know little of him at this point.


46 posted on 10/15/2005 6:30:02 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (Another day, another Fatwa against the president and his nominee.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

bttt


47 posted on 10/15/2005 6:30:02 PM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Stellar Dendrite
He's the candidate of the month.

So far he's not kept his campaign promises so I'll just have to wait and see before I jump on his horse.

48 posted on 10/15/2005 6:30:43 PM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
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To: HHKrepublican_2

I've seen Allen's spiel, but I like Newt's ideas, best. Pence could stand out if he leads the fight for spending cuts effectively. It is high time for that.


49 posted on 10/15/2005 6:31:22 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Gipper08

Bush isn't to the right of anybody on anything except Roe, tax policy, the proper role of the courts and national defense. On everything else he's a liberal.

It isn't all that hard to be to the right of Bush.


50 posted on 10/15/2005 6:31:51 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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