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ENERGY CRISIS (Grocer Pulls Energy Drink of Michael Savage's Son- "Rockstar")
New York Times ^ | October 15, 2005

Posted on 10/15/2005 6:48:06 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: indcons
Six ounces? I'm afraid you have both RS and FT mixed up with Red Bull and others. Rockstar, Monster, and Full throttle are at least 16 ounces.

I lost touch after Red Bull. My wife's daughter used to sell the stuff and even after they dumped her she still had to have her fix. My wife would buy it buy the case at Costco and we would haul it from Sacramento to LA.

51 posted on 10/15/2005 8:51:58 PM PDT by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: Hildy

Michael "Savage" Weiner is indeed an herbalist who has written at least one book on the subject. He worked at the office of a physician I went to for awhile in Sausalito. The doctor is well thought of, and Weiner was too at the time..circa 1985. But I didn't like Weiner, found him too egotistical to be a good practitioner, and only saw him one time.

I have no idea when he became Savage, in both the upper- and lower-case sense. Perhaps it is his natural reaction to the liberal idiocy in the San Fran area, which has become so extreme in recent years. Extreme circumstances may require extreme shouting.


52 posted on 10/15/2005 9:07:47 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: nickcarraway

Oh, and, uh, by the way, Hillary has 900+ FBI files and she's 900% qualified to be C.I.C. See? Got it? Understand now????


53 posted on 10/15/2005 9:08:28 PM PDT by Waco
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To: nickcarraway
After getting shafted by the California Republican Party in his run for a seat in the Legislature in Marin County, Russ Weiner, who won the GOP primary by a literal handful of votes in a recount before getting smoked in the general election by the Democratic opposition, gave up on politics, and focused on business. As a regular listener to Savage at the time, we were updated by papa Mike.

When Rockstar took off, causing beverage giants like Pepsi, Coca-Cola and Hansen's to imitate its signature 16 oz. can double the size of Red Bull's, I knew this backlash was coming eventually.

I would be shopping at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's and other fine stores where they have a great selection of gourmet and "healthy" foods, and I would see Rockstar alongside Red Bull and other energy drinks. "If the body-pierced, goateed, dyed-hair folks with degrees in liberal arts (pun intended) only knew," I would think to myself.

Now, they know.

I've wondered if the disappearance of Dr. Soy energy bars from Trader Joe's was due to the products' founders close relationship with Dr. Laura Schlessinger. Just in case it wasn't, I didn't want to draw attention to it.

It's insulting that the Times article refers to Dr. Michael Weiner (that is, Savage) as "an 'herbalist'" as if there was a shadow of a doubt about Weiner being one of the pioneers of the field. He may be an irritation on the radio, but when it comes to botany and herbs, he knows his stuff, and has a sheepskin from Berkeley to prove it. It's not like he's Dr. Laura (of whom I am a firm defender), who is a licensed marriage and family counselor, but whose doctorate is in physiology, not psychology.

Here's something that you undoubtedly don't know: When Tom Cruise spouted off about Brooke Shields' use of antidepressants, and suggested that she could have cured her post-partum depression with exercise and certain vitamins, it had a familiar ring. After the tragedy of Andrea Yates, I was listening to Savage, and he said that PPD was due to a vitamin deficiency that women suffer after giving birth for which they are not prepared. I don't remember which vitamins he said would prevent it, but he definitely said something like that.

54 posted on 10/15/2005 9:17:08 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Harriet Miers < John Roberts < Antonin Scalia. Do the math. http://lnsmitheeblog.blogspot.com)
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To: Veto!
I have no idea when he became Savage, in both the upper- and lower-case sense. Perhaps it is his natural reaction to the liberal idiocy in the San Fran area, which has become so extreme in recent years. Extreme circumstances may require extreme shouting.

Two reasons: 1. To quiet down vehement criticism and bad publicity that had its genesis when a caller to KGO's Bernie Ward ("The Lion of the Left") snuck a reference to then-Mayor Willie Brown as a "jungle bunny," ABC/Disney required all employees to go through "sensitivity training." Savage, who was a substitute host at KGO at the time, rebelled.

You can't be a talk show host with the last name "Weiner," regardless of how you pronounce it.

55 posted on 10/15/2005 9:22:46 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Harriet Miers < John Roberts < Antonin Scalia. Do the math. http://lnsmitheeblog.blogspot.com)
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To: nuconvert

Mr. Savage/Weiner must have named his son, Goldencloud, back when he was a left wing herbal hippie beatnick.


56 posted on 10/15/2005 9:24:27 PM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: skip_intro

That was back when he was writing love letters to Allen Ginsberg, before he climbed on the conservative bandwagon.


57 posted on 10/15/2005 9:36:44 PM PDT by voteconstitutionparty
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To: nickcarraway

Savage is the smartest talk show host out there.
All you must be liberals who are against him.


58 posted on 10/15/2005 9:37:45 PM PDT by CommieCrusher
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These Savage threads are always the same.

Emotional outburst against Savage for his.. emotional outbursts.

I've listened to Savage almost from day one. Rarely missed a show in almost ten years. He's talked about his early left-leanings, pot smoking; his ego; his reasons for bragging; his on-air demeanor; his impatience with callers -- you name it.

He has foibles, IMO, which I have discussed -- for example, I do not like his sexual humor. I would never attend a live show. Some people simply cannot tell dirty jokes without sounding, well, dirty. IMO. Many others think it's funny.

After more than fifty years of seeing -- and to a little extent experiencing -- leftist lies and duplicity it's time to fight back in a manner the left can feel. Savage was one of the first to do it. That was the plan.

The good he brings to the fight far outweighs the foibles, IMO.

Why anyone would tune in just to get turned off is a mystery to me. Don't listen -- but please do not help the left build a case for the "fairness doctrine" just to shut him up "for the good of conservatism." Thanks.

59 posted on 10/15/2005 9:59:12 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: L.N. Smithee
"If the body-pierced, goateed, dyed-hair folks with degrees in liberal arts (pun intended) only knew," I would think to myself.

LMAO at this story. It appears this 'health drink' is composed of water, sugar, caffeine and food coloring! I used to live in Portland, and sometimes shopped at Nature's (a bigger 'health food' chain), and was amazed at the variety of total junk food being hawked as 'health food'. Just put a picture of a fuzzy bunny or some such nonsense on the label, loaded with code words like 'natural', 'no preservatives', 'organic' -- and the mindless idiots reach for it almost reflexively.

But what really bothers the upscale hippies is that the owner is that son of a right-wing loudmouth. I could tell you horror stories about some of these locally-produced 'health foods', because I have worked in the factories and met the very conservative capitalist-minded owners -- but I might be breaking posting rules by defaming a particular brand. Just let me say that Rockstar isn't the only phoney item being hawked to the lefties by clever conservatives.

Maybe we Republicans should start labeling our candidates as 'whole grain politicians' and 'organically grown conservatism'. Sheesh, we could carry the entire state of Oregon!

60 posted on 10/15/2005 11:01:35 PM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A "democratic socialist" is just a communist who happens to be outgunned!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
That is a flowerchild name if I ever heard one. And Savage has the audacity to bitch about dopers and hippy era left overs.

As a young man Savage was a leftist social worker. He gradually came over to the right when he learned how the world is. A big factor in his transformation was being passed over for a tenure track position (he says) because of affirmative action. Why wouldn't he have the right to rail against dopers and hippy era left overs? He got smart and changed. They haven't.

61 posted on 10/15/2005 11:23:38 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Andy from Beaverton
We chose to discontinue Rockstar because we do not want any part of the prejudice and hate that Michael Savage promotes.

I would think that New Seasons Market carries more products on it's shelves that are represented by individuals/groups that have displayed and voiced prejudice and hate against Christians, conservatives, republicans, the military, oil companies, etc., etc., than products represented by individuals/groups that rail against the left. Seems that the letter from CEO Brian of New Seasons is directed more towards convincing himself that his actions were correct. He can carry whatever products he wants to carry on his shelves, but he is living in a dream world............headed towards "utopia" with blinders on.

62 posted on 10/16/2005 12:04:01 AM PDT by AwesomePossum
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To: L.N. Smithee

What ever happened to his wife. He had her on a couple times before the show went national. She was quite a looker.


63 posted on 10/16/2005 12:23:07 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: Kimmers

Add me to the list. I would rather have a root canal than listen to Savage. Hell, I'd rather have my tongue stapled to concrete and runover with a car than listen to Savage.


64 posted on 10/16/2005 5:42:02 AM PDT by packrat35 (The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toilet)
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To: rdb3

Savage entertains in small doses. Sometimes he even has a point.


65 posted on 10/16/2005 5:50:34 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: Stingy Dog

I agree with much that Savage promotes.

What does he say? It's about protecting our Culture, Language, and Borders?

I agree with that wholeheartedly.

And the "Savage Nation" term, he explains, means that we need to become a more savage nation. That the Politically Correct influence has turned we Americans into whimps. Savage yells at us to get more angry -- as a justified reaction to all of this liberal PC crap!

Savage's radio program is his version of "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore." Be truthful. How many of us feel the same?

Now you've got me goin'!!!


66 posted on 10/16/2005 6:43:49 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: zakker500

Oregon may not be able to split into two states, but didn't the Compromise of 1850 (where Texas joined the Union and gave up its rights to Colorado and New Mexico in return for payment/forgiveness of war debts) give Texas the right, at any time, to split into two states, each with its own Senators and Representatives?

That's why I'll always think of Colorado as Baja Texas.


67 posted on 10/16/2005 8:23:18 AM PDT by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred)
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To: i_dont_chat
RE: "Savage's radio program is his version of 'I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.'"

That's a great way of describing it.

Giving it back to the leftists after fifty years of them suppressing dialogue by screaming epithets at conservatives is the Savage way. Others are catching on.

Limbaugh is another one I've listened to since day one (on KFBK in Sacramento back in the mid 1980s). Rush seems much less tolerant of liberals today -- more likely to be combative than carefully explaining.

No more kowtowing! No more MSM information gatekeepers.

To wit, in the 1960s and 70s anyone pointing to the Tenth Amendment and objecting to transferring all power to government employees in Washington, D.C. was a racist. "You're for states' rights? You racist! You racist!"

No more. Savage, et al. respond by yelling back, "Pound salt!"

The tender ears of the store owner, et al. ain't use to it. They miss the old days when the yelling was one way.

68 posted on 10/16/2005 8:24:07 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: packrat35
Boy you really hate the guy....I find him sooooo irritating and so angry....listening to him for a few minutes and I feel the same as him and that is not good....this is why I am a Rush fan
69 posted on 10/16/2005 9:40:38 AM PDT by Kimmers
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To: rdb3
That's putting it mildly. Yet people fall for his schtick day in and day out.

Yes, You are Correct IMHO. Mike serves up a great rant,but thats about it. No real problem solving at all.
71 posted on 10/16/2005 2:23:20 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bill Clinton's Licence Plate..... "Herpes 1")
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To: dljordan

Well, he's 63, born in 1942, meaning he was in his 20s during the flowerchild era, so it's totally plausible.


72 posted on 01/23/2006 8:32:41 AM PST by RockinRight (Attention RNC...we're the party of Reagan, not FDR...)
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It's been some time since I have had to go into a, "Savage Reeducation Camp," (I turned off his show), but now I am back. It's good to see other people realizing now that Mikey is all about Mikey. I have never heard of a more self obsessed blow hard in a long while. Now this comes from someone listening to him since the late 90's. All show, no go.
73 posted on 01/26/2006 10:34:26 PM PST by That Alan Guy (The SAVAGE[D] Nation)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

A little late on this thread, but: Have you ever heard of Capitalism?


74 posted on 03/24/2006 4:28:30 PM PST by Sweetjustusnow ("You're either with us or with the terrorists." Time to live up to that statement Mr. President.)
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