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1 posted on 10/15/2005 6:48:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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"Russell Goldencloud Weiner"



2 posted on 10/15/2005 6:50:37 PM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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I don't mind drinking Rockstart every once in a while. My first choice is Monster Energy drink though :) Really keeps you awake.

4 posted on 10/15/2005 6:55:57 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: nickcarraway

"Oh I wish I was a Michael Savage Weiner, that's what I'd really like to be,....."

5 posted on 10/15/2005 6:57:36 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: nickcarraway the son of Michael Savage, the perpetually enraged talk radio host.

That's putting it mildly. Yet people fall for his schtick day in and day out.

If you want a Google GMail account, FReepmail me.
They're going fast!

6 posted on 10/15/2005 6:58:38 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: nickcarraway
Let me get this ....ummmm...straight.

Michael Savage is a Weiner? Somebody help me out here.

I so enjoyed MS talking about the skunk in his house last night, and how he didn't know what to do about it...sigh...should live with the critters that are in MY house!


10 posted on 10/15/2005 7:02:21 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: nickcarraway

"...Michael Savage, the perpetually enraged talk radio host."

LOL! That's a good description of him.

11 posted on 10/15/2005 7:03:07 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: nickcarraway
From the web.

New Seasons Market

Locally owned grocery with 4 locations. Large stores

featuring specialty organic

and health foods, along with conventional grocery items.

Let see, relatively small local chain.

Left wing whacko rant.

Mr. Savage did "his best to take apart the fabric of our society and to attack American values."

And the New York Times


Really now, you dumb socialists and communists in the media this is so meaningless economically to Rockstar drinks it is laughable. Now if say perhaps 7-11 quit carrying the drink then that is newsworthy. Otherwise this is just a really obvious propaganda piece that wasted resources and energy to print and publish. Thank you NYT for wasting more of our "scarce" resources and adding to global warming.

12 posted on 10/15/2005 7:03:54 PM PDT by A message
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To: nickcarraway
Here's my letter and New Seasons' reply letter a few days ago:

I always liked shopping at your store and so do my extended family,
parents and friends.  But because your store has decided to get
in politics, I will do my best to convince my family members and
to no longer shop at New Seasons.  If you disbleieve me, I will show
receipts or old checks.  I can't believe my favorite store is doing
something I can't support.  Please rethink your actions against the
RockStar drink company.


Hello Andy,
Thanks for sending your note and for your support in the past. I
certainly respect your right to choose to shop where you please but did
want to share my perspective about why I made the decision I did.

Michael Savage is the host of an extreme radio program "Savage Nation".
The decision to discontinue Rockstar was not political. New Seasons
Market does not take stands on political issues. We welcome customers
from the whole political spectrum in our stores and we work to be
respectful of all the various perspectives of everyone who works at New
Seasons Market. We chose to discontinue Rockstar because we do not want
any part of the prejudice and hate that Michael Savage promotes.

In 2003, Savage was fired from his job at MSNBC when he told a gay
caller to "get AIDS and die". His Savage Nation radio show, which runs
for three hours a day, five days a week on AM radio stations across the
country,  targets and degrades immigrants, homosexuals, women, people
the world's poor nations, Muslims, scholars, artists, our country's
political leaders and the media. On the air Savage has said, "When I
hear someone's in the civil rights business, I oil up my AR-15!".  He
has referred to Arabs as "non-humans" and "racist, fascist bigots" and
he said "I commend" prisoner abuse; "we need more". He railed against
the relief efforts after Katrina and called the Red Cross "communistic
and anti-American" and dismissed democracy (the Savage Nation website
reads: "What's a Democracy Suited for? It's Suited for the Suits!").

New Seasons Market is proud to be an active member of our community.
Michael Savage's hateful speech takes dead aim at the diversity, civic
accord and true American values that make Portland a great city. We
think our customers see the difference between politics and hate and
will support our choice to exclude Rockstar from our shelves.

One other factor I'd like to bring to your attention. We quietly
the product without any intention of making a big deal about it.
the Oregonian heard about it and they called and asked about it. I
simply told the truth when asked. I did not try and get publicity about
my decision because of, among other reasons, my reluctance to give Mr.
Savage any more exposure.

Regardless of what you and your family decide about shopping at our
stores I hope you will seriously consider the damage that Mr. Savage is
doing to our society.


Brian Rohter
New Seasons Market
1954 SE Division Street
Portland, Oregon 97202
phone 503 473 8715
fax        503 292 6280

14 posted on 10/15/2005 7:06:51 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: nickcarraway

Let me tell ya somethin' Those energy drinks will turn you into a freakin' serial killer.LOL!

23 posted on 10/15/2005 7:17:02 PM PDT by Ajnin (I)
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In 2003, MSNBC fired Mr. Savage after he told a caller he assumed was gay to "get AIDS and die."

As I recall the incident, Savage asked the caller if he was a sodomite. The caller said "yes".

There was no assumption about anything.

I can only take Savage for 10 or 15 minutes -- I think he has become even more vitriolic over time.

28 posted on 10/15/2005 7:32:07 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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Savage can say anything he wants on the air as long as his employer does not have a problem with what he says. If they do they can fire him.

New Seasons market can pull a product off their shelves if they like. It's their shelves.

It's a free country. People can be as dumb as they want and it's nice of them to sometimes be both dumb and entertaining at the same time.

I find Savage very entertaining. Why? Because he's not like everyone else on the radio. I like listening to him. The guy that runs the grocery is dumb but not entertaining.

30 posted on 10/15/2005 7:38:43 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Don't get stuck on stupid - Lt. General Honore)
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Mr. Weiner talks about his father's experience as an "herbalist" and claims his caffeine-loaded beverage is "the perfect balance of vitamins and herbs."

LOL! If Savage is an example of what happens to your personality if you become an "herbalist" I'll stick to my artificial drinks, thank you!!! By the way, I love the description: PERPETUALLY ENRAGED TALKSHOW HOST!!! ROFLMAO!!!!

31 posted on 10/15/2005 7:38:53 PM PDT by Hildy ( liberals cannot change the present, and cannot effect the future, so they MUST relive the past...)
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Oregon? Isn't that the state where live sex acts are permitted on stage - or anywhere else in the club? Not only that, Dr. Savage could help him with his assisted suicide when the sales drop way off in the grocery stores...
(I guess they're due for a tsunami or earthquake soon)

34 posted on 10/15/2005 7:46:35 PM PDT by zakker500 (Zak/USMC/F 2-11/Viet Nam/'68-'69)
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What an idiot.

36 posted on 10/15/2005 7:59:06 PM PDT by Thumper1960 ("It is true that liberty is precious; so precious that it must be carefully rationed."-V.I.Lenin)
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Oh, and, uh, by the way, Hillary has 900+ FBI files and she's 900% qualified to be C.I.C. See? Got it? Understand now????

53 posted on 10/15/2005 9:08:28 PM PDT by Waco
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After getting shafted by the California Republican Party in his run for a seat in the Legislature in Marin County, Russ Weiner, who won the GOP primary by a literal handful of votes in a recount before getting smoked in the general election by the Democratic opposition, gave up on politics, and focused on business. As a regular listener to Savage at the time, we were updated by papa Mike.

When Rockstar took off, causing beverage giants like Pepsi, Coca-Cola and Hansen's to imitate its signature 16 oz. can double the size of Red Bull's, I knew this backlash was coming eventually.

I would be shopping at Whole Foods and Trader Joe's and other fine stores where they have a great selection of gourmet and "healthy" foods, and I would see Rockstar alongside Red Bull and other energy drinks. "If the body-pierced, goateed, dyed-hair folks with degrees in liberal arts (pun intended) only knew," I would think to myself.

Now, they know.

I've wondered if the disappearance of Dr. Soy energy bars from Trader Joe's was due to the products' founders close relationship with Dr. Laura Schlessinger. Just in case it wasn't, I didn't want to draw attention to it.

It's insulting that the Times article refers to Dr. Michael Weiner (that is, Savage) as "an 'herbalist'" as if there was a shadow of a doubt about Weiner being one of the pioneers of the field. He may be an irritation on the radio, but when it comes to botany and herbs, he knows his stuff, and has a sheepskin from Berkeley to prove it. It's not like he's Dr. Laura (of whom I am a firm defender), who is a licensed marriage and family counselor, but whose doctorate is in physiology, not psychology.

Here's something that you undoubtedly don't know: When Tom Cruise spouted off about Brooke Shields' use of antidepressants, and suggested that she could have cured her post-partum depression with exercise and certain vitamins, it had a familiar ring. After the tragedy of Andrea Yates, I was listening to Savage, and he said that PPD was due to a vitamin deficiency that women suffer after giving birth for which they are not prepared. I don't remember which vitamins he said would prevent it, but he definitely said something like that.

54 posted on 10/15/2005 9:17:08 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Harriet Miers < John Roberts < Antonin Scalia. Do the math.
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Savage is the smartest talk show host out there.
All you must be liberals who are against him.

58 posted on 10/15/2005 9:37:45 PM PDT by CommieCrusher
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These Savage threads are always the same.

Emotional outburst against Savage for his.. emotional outbursts.

I've listened to Savage almost from day one. Rarely missed a show in almost ten years. He's talked about his early left-leanings, pot smoking; his ego; his reasons for bragging; his on-air demeanor; his impatience with callers -- you name it.

He has foibles, IMO, which I have discussed -- for example, I do not like his sexual humor. I would never attend a live show. Some people simply cannot tell dirty jokes without sounding, well, dirty. IMO. Many others think it's funny.

After more than fifty years of seeing -- and to a little extent experiencing -- leftist lies and duplicity it's time to fight back in a manner the left can feel. Savage was one of the first to do it. That was the plan.

The good he brings to the fight far outweighs the foibles, IMO.

Why anyone would tune in just to get turned off is a mystery to me. Don't listen -- but please do not help the left build a case for the "fairness doctrine" just to shut him up "for the good of conservatism." Thanks.

59 posted on 10/15/2005 9:59:12 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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