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White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio (ABC & AP caught red-handed in a lie)
ABC NEWS ^ | October 16,2005 | JOHN SEEWER

Posted on 10/16/2005 6:19:00 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen

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To: TaxRelief

They are Nazis! Of course they do, and YES, they are.


151 posted on 10/16/2005 8:40:54 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: takenoprisoner

Gee, they're right on top of things, aren't they?


152 posted on 10/16/2005 8:41:23 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Jonah Johansen
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Jake Blues: "I hate Illinois Nazi's"

I hate Nazis too, but I'm afraid I have to say they made their point.

I believe their stated goal was to expose gang (i.e. Black, in their opinion) violence in this particular Toledo neighborhood.

The Nazis didn't even march, but they certainly exposed the level of gang related violence, be it Black, Hispanic, White, or other.

I know, I know, there were reports of some outsiders inciting violence, but I think the outsiders were a tiny minority of the numbers of rioters we saw on TV.

Protesting Nazis doesn't include looting, setting buildings and cars on fire, or throwing stones at police and emergency vehicles. Those are criminal element activities, apparently gang related in this case (drunken Red Sox rioters excluded).

I really hate to say it, but as far as a publicity win, the Nazis chalked one up, with a big assist by the MSM.

153 posted on 10/16/2005 8:42:42 AM PDT by benjaminjjones
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To: TaxRelief
These people must have a death wish. Are they insane?

As much as I hate to defend the Nazis, I'd have to say their strategy was pretty effective. Show up in small numbers, get out before anyone gets hurt, go home and watch black people looting and rioting on the news and then exclaim, "See! We told you these people are violent animals!"

People turned on the news and didn't see any skinheads committing crimes. You can bet that was part of their objective. This Nazis are going to milk this event for all it is worth. To them, it was undoubtedly a successful march.

154 posted on 10/16/2005 8:44:39 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: GOP_Proud
Those are the darkest skinned "white" supremicists I've ever seen.

The numbers have been a little down lately so they had to do an outreach program. They had to recruit some nijjers!

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

155 posted on 10/16/2005 8:45:09 AM PDT by bray (Islam IS a terrorist organization)
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To: Jonah Johansen

I'm relieved to read here that others get the preposterous lies in that headline. I read the story on FOX very early today and it seems that rioting was by everyone BUT the "white supremacists" and not only that, there's more planned (by "protestors" of the protestors).

Farakhan can rant and rave about everything racist and racially motivated yet a straggly group of "white" people in Ohio can't have their few hours without being mobbed and such.

I don't support the politics of the group, they sure don't represent 'white' people, but the rioting wasn't 'white' people.

I'm wondering what the headline would have been like if they'd been honest about it.


156 posted on 10/16/2005 8:46:20 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: theymakemesick
"I take screenshots just for future proof, I got one of the original. "

Me, too.

157 posted on 10/16/2005 8:47:32 AM PDT by Rob_DSM
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To: Jonah Johansen
There is a link in a side bar on the AP page that changes the headline from "White Supremecists Riot..." to "Anti-White Protesters..."
It's the same article, same picture.
158 posted on 10/16/2005 8:50:39 AM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Here is the updated headline. Note that now that ABC news is no longer claiming that the white supremacists were rioting, they have also taken out the word "hundreds" from the headline. Also, the term "anti-white supremacist protesters" is now used. There were 15-20 white supremacists holding an organized protest, who went home prior to the rioting. As ugly as their message was, it appears that they were exercising their right to free speech within the bounds of the law. There were hundreds of rioting anarchists, race activists and gang members, assaulting individuals, damaging property, setting fire to buildings... The emphasis in the headline is still in the context of the white supremacists, rather than the criminal groups of anarchists, race activists and gang members. Why is that?
159 posted on 10/16/2005 8:53:52 AM PDT by Huber (It is time for the emergence of a strong Conservative leader!)
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To: Jonah Johansen
Subtitled, "Mayor of Toledo, Ohio, Declares Emergency, Sets Curfew After Hundreds of White Supremacists Riot"
160 posted on 10/16/2005 8:54:31 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: concretebob
After a bombardment of emails, they have corrected the headline, but they still have not corrected the first line of the story.

see post # 77

The first line still reads "Protesters at a white supremacists' march threw rocks at police, vandalized vehicles and stores and cursed the mayor for allowing the event." It should read "COUNTER-protestors at a white...."

161 posted on 10/16/2005 9:01:18 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: TaxRelief

It doesn't look like hundreds to me...


162 posted on 10/16/2005 9:04:21 AM PDT by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: Huber
Also revised on AP. Here's the link "AP Tries Again"

The new headline is only a little better than the first. The AP is still not delivering news. They are trying to shape by telling readers what to think about the rioters. Big surprise!

163 posted on 10/16/2005 9:05:44 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: Drew68
"As much as I hate to defend the Nazis, I'd have to say their strategy was pretty effective."

Well, I guess we can safely say that dumb Nazis are loads smarter than the racial proletariat and the brainy liberals at ABC.

164 posted on 10/16/2005 9:05:53 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: RedRover
Shoulda read: "They are trying shape the news by telling readers what to think about the rioters."
165 posted on 10/16/2005 9:07:15 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: Phsstpok

The error was is pluralizing "supremacist." I did take note that the word black only appeared once in the article and that was to describe the race of a witness.

Are these big city Blacks feeling 'protected' now that it is not politically correct to describe their race when the article is not favorable towards their race?


166 posted on 10/16/2005 9:09:13 AM PDT by B4Ranch (In 3 to 5 seconds check- employees immigration status - http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/SAVE.htm)
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To: TaxRelief
Still deliberately mis-leading.
I expect nothing less from the Lamestream Media.
167 posted on 10/16/2005 9:15:33 AM PDT by concretebob (We should give anarchists what they want. Then we can kill them and not worry about jailtime.)
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To: HennepinPrisoner

That is using clear MSM logic! LOL


168 posted on 10/16/2005 9:15:52 AM PDT by B4Ranch (In 3 to 5 seconds check- employees immigration status - http://uscis.gov/graphics/services/SAVE.htm)
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To: rabair
as I said in my previous posts BOMBARD THE BLOGGERS, GET THIS STORY OUT!!! The only blog posting the story, isn't exposing it, but rather it's a liberal perpetuating the lie.

NOTIFY MALKIN, DRUDGE, LGF, ETC.

NOTIFY MALKIN, DRUDGE, LGF, ETC.

NOTIFY MALKIN, DRUDGE, LGF, ETC.

NOTIFY MALKIN, DRUDGE, LGF, ETC.

NOTIFY MALKIN, DRUDGE, LGF, ETC.

Come on folks, I know it's Sunday, but please don't let this thing die... This ain't Rathergate, but it's not nothing either.
169 posted on 10/16/2005 9:19:22 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: TaxRelief

I count...twelve "white supremacits" and they sure don't look like they're rioting to my view.


170 posted on 10/16/2005 9:22:15 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Jonah Johansen

The skinheads didn't even get to march. Well, so what. As far as AP, et al. (Libs and dems), are concerned, it's business as usual. No correction made, though the race of the rioters and looters is clear from the video.


171 posted on 10/16/2005 9:24:31 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Jonah Johansen

Shameless

Coloring the News.


172 posted on 10/16/2005 9:25:51 AM PDT by wardaddy (Brooke Burke is now single!)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Also lost in the story, besides the truth, is the reason for the skinhead march. They were protesting the lack of police action when roaming black gangs attacked white neighborhoods...evidently an ongoing problem.


173 posted on 10/16/2005 9:26:42 AM PDT by hershey
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To: sure_fine

From what I heard on the news today, it was local gang members that were upset that outsiders were marching on "their turf." Reminds me of when my child is mad and threatens to break one of her toys. That'll show me huh? Some people are so stupid.


174 posted on 10/16/2005 9:29:54 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: Skooz

They needed new basketball shoes and tvs. sarc/off

Honestly I have little patience or compassion left for anyone these days. I am fed up.


175 posted on 10/16/2005 9:39:40 AM PDT by kalee
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To: kalee

is that meant to be a jab at people you might so callously call looters? I'll have you know that big screen TVs and Nikes are high in protein.... lol

btw, should we expect Celine Dion coming out defending these criminals again? "Let dem totch dose teengs for ones!"


176 posted on 10/16/2005 9:50:12 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: Jonah Johansen
WOW!

I didn't recognize them without their sheets!

177 posted on 10/16/2005 9:51:05 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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To: rabair

while I'm sure Drudge will be all over this later on Drudge Radio, I still say FILL YOUR FAVORITE BLOGGERS' EMAIL BOXES WITH THIS STORY. This is the only way to, not take down ABC/AP like LGF did with Rathergate.. but at least bring attention to another huge liberal media example and deal a big blow to them.. it's not just spin this time, but a flat out lie. I don't think we should quit until Fox gets all over this and puts the pressure on until someone has to make a public apology (thought the rest of the media will ignore it and pretend it never happened.)


178 posted on 10/16/2005 9:54:13 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: rabair

It's already up in Newsbusters...

http://newsbusters.org/node/2277


179 posted on 10/16/2005 9:56:47 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: tet68
Soviet racer finishes SECOND!
American car next to last.

LOL... Great example of the MSM's attitude.

180 posted on 10/16/2005 10:00:01 AM PDT by RJL
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To: leadpenny
Unbelievable. I rarely scream bias but that headline adds new meaning to the word, "bias."

I have never seen such blatant bias as in this headline. This isn't some confusing positioning of words but an out-an-out lie. The actual meat of this bony article, while trying to deflect the true blame here, doesn't continue the lie. It is purely for the quick hit, where someone doesn't actually read the article and goes away with an impression of the true aggressors being the dickweed Nazis.

181 posted on 10/16/2005 10:15:49 AM PDT by torchthemummy ("Dems preach to their moonbat choir while the Pubbies sing to the audience. " - TTM)
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To: NapkinUser
"They just updated it to: "Anti-White Supremacist Protesters Riot"

Uh I don't see any change on ABC's site as of 1:18pm EST Sunday.

182 posted on 10/16/2005 10:18:01 AM PDT by torchthemummy ("Dems preach to their moonbat choir while the Pubbies sing to the audience. " - TTM)
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To: rabair

Leather Nikes maybe, but plasma tvs sorry. lol


183 posted on 10/16/2005 10:21:20 AM PDT by kalee
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To: rabair
They only took what they needed to survive the floods caused by the hurricane generated by the secret Bush hurricane machine and due to the dynamiting of the levee...

oh, wait.

184 posted on 10/16/2005 10:30:20 AM PDT by clintonh8r (In God we trust. All others pay cash.)
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To: hershey

Just listening to the police chief yesterday told me all I had to know. It was as if he thought he was dealing solely with a race relations 'problem'.


185 posted on 10/16/2005 10:30:54 AM PDT by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: TaxRelief

Fox News has now changed their first paragraph of the article to read:

"A crowd protesting a white supremacists' march Saturday turned violent, throwing baseball-sized rocks at police, vandalizing vehicles and stores, and setting fire to a neighborhood bar, authorities said."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,172387,00.html


186 posted on 10/16/2005 10:35:25 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: Huber

Hey, Huber!

AbcNEWS put the headline back to "White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio"!

Unbelievable.


187 posted on 10/16/2005 10:42:01 AM PDT by TaxRelief ("Conservatives are cracking down!" -- Rush Limbaugh, October 13, 2005)
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To: torchthemummy

I'm still flabbergasted.

My brother, who lives in nearby Maumee, and I have talked since this morning and he was speechless when I told him about AP's headline.

The AP's culpability in this story ranks up there with Rather's in his.


188 posted on 10/16/2005 10:55:07 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jonah Johansen
It is a truly bizarre headline which has no relation to the story at all. When I worked on my school newspaper many years ago I did some headline writing as well as articles. Normally different people do the headlines, and at liberal newspapers the headline writers are the younger flunkies, over-eager to prove they are more flamingly leftist than their seniors, in hopes of promotion.

If a single White Supremacist had thrown a rock, I'm sure the eager photographers would have caught him in the act and plastered it on the front pages. The best they could come up with was the picture that accompanies the story:


189 posted on 10/16/2005 11:09:05 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Lancey Howard

Indeed they do.

Here is yet another updated version.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1220631

ABC and others continue their attempts at deceit. Here again, they falsely claim that the resulting riot by gang bangers was caused by a planned march of white supremacists. (who never marched)

Yea right. Like gang bangers need an excuse to commit mayhem on public streets.


190 posted on 10/16/2005 11:17:39 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Beware the troll patrol...they censure and ban conservatives alike just for the thrill of it)
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To: Jonah Johansen
the poor gang bangers ! it wasn't their fault the awful Nazis
had to march , it wasn't their fault they had to run riot in the street and assault police officers! The poor misguided children would have been much better off if they'd gone to DC and listened to countless speakers encouraging them to act up ,but then to demand reparations too! It was a total failure
of Government responsibility that caused these otherwise decent lads to go totally berserk....
191 posted on 10/16/2005 11:18:01 AM PDT by injin
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To: TaxRelief

thanks for the tip.. I hope others continue to pick this up.


192 posted on 10/16/2005 11:23:43 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: pageonetoo

"Why can't the mom and dads say something to their kids?"I doubt they care.


193 posted on 10/16/2005 11:31:33 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: rabair

well, I thepoliticalteen.net has my (admittedly sloppy) email up about this... pretty high traffic site, that many others link to because he Tivos everything and has all the videos you could ever want to see (i.e. Donahue on the Factor, Black Panther idiots on Hannity & Colmes, etc. etc.) I definitely reccomend checking out his site regularly, if you don't have time to watch all the cable news primetime... anyway, here's his post (which again is just my sloppy email that I sent to Michelle Malkin and Little Green Footballs, but they haven't posted on it yet.)

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/10/16/fakeheadline/


194 posted on 10/16/2005 11:31:40 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: FreedomPoster

"White Power!"

195 posted on 10/16/2005 11:33:04 AM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jonah Johansen

TBOnline,should of known.This is a moderate/conservative area,but the Tampa Trib and StPete Times are blatantly left.I haven't subscribed to either rag in yrs.Ironicaly,the StPeteTimes is considered a very good paper.


196 posted on 10/16/2005 11:39:23 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: TUAN_JIM
Reporter:"I'm looking for Clayton Bigsby"
Bigsby:"Well look no further fella, ya found me"
(pause)
Reporter:"Clayton Bigsby, the author?"
Bigsby(snapping back:"What, chu don't thank I could write them books? Just cuz I'm blind, don't mean I'm dumb!"

(voice over... "How... could this have happened? A black white supremacist.")
197 posted on 10/16/2005 11:47:36 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: Jonah Johansen

I guess these lefties don't get Fox News on their cable. The rest of the country watched young black thugs throwing rocks through the windshield of an ambulance, attack police, and burn some offensive white-owned businesses. I can't wait to read Brent Bozell's comments on this lying news coverage.


198 posted on 10/16/2005 11:50:35 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: TUAN_JIM

to avoid a hot link to this guy (cuz I don't know who he is), I'll provide the Yahoo! video search... Hilarious if anyone hasn't seen it:

http://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?p=Clayton+Bigsby&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv1-fp&fl=0&cv=g&x=wrt


199 posted on 10/16/2005 12:00:22 PM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: kittymyrib

excellent point... he actually gets seen on FNC. Perhaps he'll be on O'Reilly or H&C to mention this bologna tomorrow.


200 posted on 10/16/2005 12:01:27 PM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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