It's strange that the note
wasn't found folded in his
copy of Catcher . . .
Posted on 10/16/2005 11:02:43 AM PDT by MizSterious
The FBI read the message to the father Friday, after he came to Oklahoma to clear out his son's university-owned apartment.
Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III, an engineering student, died when his bomb went off about 100 yards from the packed football stadium during the second quarter of OU's night game against Kansas State.
Hinrichs, 21, was from Colorado Springs, Colo. He had a reputation as a loner and had struggled at times with his grades. His parents had begun divorce proceedings.
Joel Hinrichs Jr. said he understood investigators found the message on the computer screen when they arrived at the apartment.
"It was a single line of text on his computer," said the father, who lives in Colorado Springs. "The cursor was still blinking at the end."
The father said he could not recall the exact wording but said his son used profanity in the message and was obviously very angry. "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.
His description of the message is consistent with the recollection of others who have been briefed about the investigation by the FBI.
No links to terrorist groups
FBI officials have said they may never know whether the student wanted to get inside the stadium. The student did not have a season ticket.
FBI officials also have said the investigation has not found any links between the student and terrorist organizations.
His father said he thinks his son was just committing suicide and never intended to hurt anyone else.
The father said the FBI on Friday showed him the fractured bench where his son was sitting when the bomb exploded and photos of his son's headless body and a tattered backpack.
The father said when cleaning out the apartment, he learned his son apparently had been having trouble sleeping and had bought Sominex, a sleep aid.
The younger Hinrichs had a long fascination with ammunition and bombs, his relatives and friends said. Inside his bedroom in Norman were several used metal artillery shells -- the largest about 2 feet long. He had belts of used brass shell casings, a box of spent bullets and military ammo containers.
He also had items more typical of many college students -- textbooks, empty liquor bottles, magazines and a martial arts movie videotape.
The father allowed two reporters from The Oklahoman into the bedroom briefly Thursday.
Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2. Contributing: Randy Ellis
Spin alert--again. What I find most interesting is that the father can't remember "exactly" what the so-called suicide note (if that's what it was) said. If it had been my son, it would have been burned into my brain--I'd be trying to forget what it said, and not succeeding. I'm guessing this because a friend of mine (just a friend, not a son or daughter) committed suicide, and I'll never forget her note.
For it being only one line, he seems to have said quite a lot.
And by "known facts" I mean newspaper and television reports that there were no suicide notes. Now, suddenly, there was one? Maybe you should get back to your job in Dave Boren's office.
"Nice guys who keep to themselves" should be watched contantly.
The father said when cleaning out the apartment, he learned his son apparently had been having trouble sleeping and had bought Sominex, a sleep aid.
How long before the lawsuit?
The younger Hinrichs had a long fascination with ammunition and bombs, his relatives and friends said. Inside his bedroom in Norman were several used metal artillery shells -- the largest about 2 feet long. He had belts of used brass shell casings, a box of spent bullets and military ammo containers.
And again, jmust like Columbine, shouldn't the parents have known something odd was going on?
I think the dad is reeling, and whatever it was would make the son look bad. With all the rumors I would imagine the dad is trying to protect his son - after death. I'm sure there's guilt that he didn't see what was going on.
Curious as to why the mom hasn't spoken out.
Funny, I was just thinking of posting the same article. Glad I did a search first.
Too bad the "suicide message" was on his computer. A hand written note would have wrapped it up a lot nicer for Boren and the FBI. Anybody could have typed it.
I think he killed himself, I also think he intended to take others with him. The jury's still out on a conspiracy, but I'm finding it hard to believe his room mate didn't notice his bomb lab in the apartment.
The FBI left the computer on this whole time through the investigation? The cursor was still blinking? I find that to be... BS.
WHAT??? No need to burn every middle-easterner at the stake? No terrorists? No illegal aliens? No space aliens!!!
Some Freepers here are gonna be really angry when they remember what they posted that nite, and how silly that looks when it's Goggled now....
This reminds me of the torn-up note found in the sequestered Vince Fosters office 3 weeks after the alleged suicide. Foster had 'torn up' his scribbled note, while Heinrich left an obscurity on his PC which his father probably did not know how to operate. Fiction again.
LOL--I wish you had posted it first! I have the hardest time with Daily Oklahoman's website. My browser just hates their code.
It's strange that the note
wasn't found folded in his
copy of Catcher . . .
Besides the terrorist idea, I didn't see any of those brought up as theories. Why don't you point out where they were mentioned?
I'm sure the FBI is glad there's still plenty of sheep left in this country that'll believe anything they're told.
It would be interesting to see what she says.
I agree, though, that dad is trying to cover for his son. But who (or what) is Dave Boren covering for?
You read it wrong Cougar, they read the message to him, it wasn't on the screen. Maybe there was something about Plamegate on the PC? lol
Easy question. Boren is protecting the school's finances. Foreign students pay full tuition. Wouldn't want them to feel unwelcome. The rest of the students might decide to go elsewhere for their educations, which also would hurt OU finances. Education is a business. Nothing more.
Well, it could have said "F this S**tty world, F it all, I quit." Or something like that.
No kidding. Every time I hear someone is "so quiet," I go straight to DefCon 2.
Nobody ever says, "Oh...we saw this coming from a mile away; he was a loud-mouthed a-hole" after a guy goes on a killing spree. No...it's always "We're shocked. He was always so quiet."
Nope. At least not in the grad programs. In the grad program I was in the foreign kids all had free rides while we Oklahoma residents paid tuition.
Why don't I believe a word of this? I don't even have a tin foil hat.
So now people on this thread have to wear goggles? Would regular safety glasses work? I have some in the other room where I work on my stained glass--let me run get them.
I agree, my nephew committed suicide and left his family a note and it is imprinted on his fathers brain, never to be forgotten. I didn't get to read it or I would also have it burned into the gray matter. The FBI is trying to spin this into a simple suicide when it probably, IMO, was meant to be a large scale killing.
It says the note was there when the FBI ARRIVED. Unlike FReepers the FBI doesn't run out and proclaim everything that springs into their minds the minute it pops up.
Why would you think it had to still be there?
Right!! And I just saw some pigs flying by my window!!
Agreed. This particular piece of computer "evidence" is worthless.
ATTENTION! I HAVE THE CONTENTS OF THE NOTE! IT READS AS FOLLOWS:
"Messy, isn't it?"
re:24
How's that work? Are they scholarships or is it free because someone else (their government) is paying for their fees? I'm having a hard time believing that Oklahoma isn't gettting paid somewhere.
--- His father said he thinks his son was just committing suicide and never intended to hurt anyone else. ---
Then why not OD or slit your wrists? Strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing yourself up near a football stadium... several blocks from your home, just doesn't add up.
I don't know all the ins and outs of computers, but it really wouldn't be possible to tell if the roommate wrote it after the fact, or even if the FBI did (I'm not suggesting they did, I'm just making the point that anyone with access to the apt and computer could have done it, yes?)
susie
Then why not OD or slit your wrists? Strapping a bomb to yourself and blowing yourself up near a football stadium...
Maybe he wanted to go out with a bang?
There are so many unanswered questions here. It seems to me if this kid was part of a larger group, it would be to their advantage to make it look like he committed suicide. Why have all these other explosives in the apartment if there were no other plans to use them? No way did his roommate not notice them. And who would have access to the kid's computer? The roommate of course! Why couldn't he have left the message to get the heat of of him?
What happens is that the people who rate business schools, like US News and world report, put a huge value on "diversity" and % of international students in the student body in their rankings. Also, Dean's like to go to cocktail parties and pat each other on the back for being so enlightend as to have a more diverse student body that other similar schools.
So, there are a certain amount of scholaships endowed by alumni, but given away at the discration of the Deans. They mostly go to foreign students. Then, the Dean's have the power to give away graduate assistanceships. These pay say 10 bucks an hour, guaranteed, plus medical benefits, and you rarely have to do anything, so it is like getting paid to study. The foreign students get all the plum 20 hour per week jobs.
So the net result is Oklahoma taxpayers shell ought dough for foreign students, maybe 10% of them actually stay and work in Oklahoma. For most it is just a roundabout way to get to New York on someone else's dime.
Thank you for posting that. For some reason the curser blinking at the end thing made me think of dramatic effect.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
susie
To be clear, there are exceptions. I was over-generalizing. There were natives who had good scholarships, and foreigners who paid, but for the most part foreigners paid very little, while natives paid full or close to full in-state tuition.
WHAT situatiion? War in Iraq? Islamic oppression? Bush as President? This guy's inability to get a date? His failing courses?
WHAT situation?
Yes, verified. Clerk interviewed on camera, everything.
Since most software doesn't have a blinking cursor, I'm at a loss about that one. Either they made it up, or he was using DOS--funny way to write a "suicide" note, eh?
Who announced it - the MSM? I didn't see or hear a FBI news conference, did I miss it?
What situation indeed. It still bothers me about the blinking cursor, makes the whole thing sound like a big, fat lie.
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