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INCREASING BEER TAXES COULD HELP STOP THE SPREAD OF AIDS
ncpa.org ^ | Tuesday, October 18, 2005

Posted on 10/18/2005 1:04:41 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

Studies of teenagers suggest that heavy drinkers are more likely to be sexually active, more likely to have multiple partners, and less likely to use condoms. This risky behavior increases the spread of sexually transmitted diseases (STDs). A new paper from the National Bureau of Economic Research suggests that reducing heavy drinking among youth may slow the spread of STDs.

The authors analyzed the relationship between incidences of gonorrhea and the price of alcohol. Because beer is the most popular alcoholic beverage among youth, the authors used state excise taxes on beer to represent the price of alcohol. Their models also included the presence (or absence) of 0.08 and 0.10 blood alcohol concentration laws. The authors found that:

A 10 percent increase in the average state excise tax on beer will reduce the gonorrhea rate by 4.4 percent for boys ages 15 to 19 and by 3.7 percent for men aged 20 to 24. Zero tolerance laws -- which typically set the maximum blood alcohol percentage at 0.02 for underage drinkers -- also reduce gonorrhea incidence by an estimated 7 to 8 percent in 15-19 year-old boys. Other drunk-driving laws appear to have no effect; nor does living in a dry county. Nevertheless, the authors believe that increasing the excise tax on beer is effective in combating the transmission of STDs, including AIDS. They estimate that:

A 10 percent increase in the average state excise tax on beer will reduce AIDS rates by a range of 5.1 to 8.5 percent among young males. The magnitude of the effect falls to a range of 3.2 to 6.4 percent for older males. The opposite pattern holds true for female AIDS rates, where a bigger response is expected for older females. Source: Linda Gorman, "Alcohol Policies and Sexually Transmitted Disease Among Youth," NBER Digest, July 2005; based upon: Michael Grossman, Robert Kaestner and Sara Markowitz, "An Investigation of the Effects of Alcohol Policies on Youth STDs," National Bureau of Economic Research, Working Paper No. 10949, December 2004.

For article:

http://www.nber.org/digest/jul05/w10949.html

For abstract:

http://papers.nber.org/papers/w10949

For more on Health Issues:

http://www.ncpa.org/iss/hea/


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1 posted on 10/18/2005 1:04:43 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch
How about this: increase the price of beer, but only for teens.

Great graphic.
2 posted on 10/18/2005 1:06:11 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

First they came for the smokers, and I said nothing...


3 posted on 10/18/2005 1:06:38 PM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
More tax policy as social engineering,...

grrrrreeeeeeeat, just great....

4 posted on 10/18/2005 1:07:02 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

LOL and the State keeps marching on.

For the children, of course, raise prices on beer, ban beer in bars, breathalysers in autos!

The statists will love this.

Love your kids, vote for higher beer taxes.

Man, what a racket, that pinging on the guilt thing always works.


5 posted on 10/18/2005 1:07:08 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: InvisibleChurch
There is no problem so difficult that it cannot be solved by passing a new law or assessing a new tax.

Honest.

6 posted on 10/18/2005 1:07:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The tax is high enough. How about increasing responsible parents.


7 posted on 10/18/2005 1:07:57 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There is no problem so difficult that it cannot be solved by passing a new law or assessing a new tax.

I don't suppose it will occur to the people to enforce current drinking age laws....

8 posted on 10/18/2005 1:09:40 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Puts a damper on keggers.


9 posted on 10/18/2005 1:09:54 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: InvisibleChurch

Yup. That explains why so many people have AIDS in Africa. Too much partying.


10 posted on 10/18/2005 1:10:37 PM PDT by dhs12345 (w)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The cartoon is great : )

The article is a load, however. It is illegal for a minor to purchase or consume alcoholic. This is just another tax the middle class scheme, and saying it's for the chillun...


11 posted on 10/18/2005 1:11:26 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: The_Victor

Except that many in this study are underage.

Hey, raise the drinking age to 25.

Methinks this is a move by the liquor distillers to boost their sales.

Beer causes STD's; Drink bourbon instead.


12 posted on 10/18/2005 1:11:42 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: InvisibleChurch

I don't drink beer, ergo, I agree with a tax on beer.

That's how it works, right?


13 posted on 10/18/2005 1:13:05 PM PDT by Glenn (What I've dared, I've willed; and what I've willed, I'll do!)
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To: InvisibleChurch


I don't drink but had to post it anyway......
14 posted on 10/18/2005 1:13:06 PM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.


15 posted on 10/18/2005 1:14:06 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: InvisibleChurch
"...the authors used state excise taxes on beer to represent the price of alcohol."

That was one of many mistakes in proposing this as a "solution".

16 posted on 10/18/2005 1:15:27 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Intense and spicy, with a hint of sarcasm and a dry finish.)
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To: Ace of Spades; SheLion
First they came for the smokers, and I said nothing...

And that was "for the children" too...

17 posted on 10/18/2005 1:16:53 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Fupid Stuckers.

I'm getting tired of all this Nanny State crap.

18 posted on 10/18/2005 1:17:01 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be. -El Neil)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Actually, I should have said:

Cum hoc, ergo propter hoc.

"With this, therefore because of this."

19 posted on 10/18/2005 1:17:35 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: InvisibleChurch

Teenagers don't buy alcohol...they steal it...like duh...LOL.


20 posted on 10/18/2005 1:19:55 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: day10
I don't drink either but any kind of tax increase is stupid.

Where do these lame brains get their stats.

Do these turd heads secretly hang out behind parked cars on lovers lane and take notes.
21 posted on 10/18/2005 1:20:48 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

This crap came out last year in almost the same form as this posting. Accept it for what it really is

neo-prohibitionism.


22 posted on 10/18/2005 1:22:59 PM PDT by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Agree completely.


23 posted on 10/18/2005 1:23:14 PM PDT by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Maybe increasing gasoline taxes would help, too. It would make it much more expensive to drive to party hotspots where risky activity is more likely.

/sarc.


24 posted on 10/18/2005 1:23:23 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I have another idea: Ban Liza Minelli records.

This would cut down on the romance (and therefore sexual encounters) of the group that is most responsible for the spread of AIDS in the first place. Another solution could be a ban on anything with rainbows on it, as it may keep the above mentioned group from congregating.

25 posted on 10/18/2005 1:23:44 PM PDT by BlueMondaySkipper (The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it. - George Orwell)
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To: InvisibleChurch

So has anybody actually paid to see the paper to find out if there was any serious causation analysis?

Since the tax rates and laws have changed over time presumably you could do a regression that took changes in the STD rates based upon previous changes to tax rates and laws.


26 posted on 10/18/2005 1:24:42 PM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; SheLion
This is just another tax the middle class scheme, and saying it's for the chillun...

How about a $2 tax per sixpack? Sounds about right to me. I think they'll shut up and take it--they did with cigarettes, after all.

Better yet, a class action suit by MADD or somebody, to demand information about marketing beer to children, you know, the commercials with the lizards and sexy girls, etc. That's clearly selling a product to the underage market. And I'll just BET those executives know it.

And there's a general statistic they can use--one in ten of those underage drinkers is going to be an alcoholic later on in life, just like one in 10 smokers will get lung cancer....How long must society bear the cost of alcoholism? Wonder how many billions we all spend on their medical care, law enforcement, court costs, etc.?

I bet we can get Busch into court to explain the Budweiser commercials...why, it's just like Joe Camel, isn't it?

Sue the beer makers in the aggregate, and win, then there's billions for the lawyers, and about a bucko five for the victims. Then, after winning against the manufacturers in court, start REALLY raising taxes on beer. It could go toward...education...yeah, that's the ticket. Education.

27 posted on 10/18/2005 1:27:02 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: The_Victor
I don't suppose it will occur to the people to enforce current drinking age laws....

Enforcement of drinking age laws has become a paranoid obsession in some areas: even people who traditionally allow their kids to have a glass of wine with their meals are now subject to criminal sanctions. A better real solution would be to LOWER the drinking age to 18, which happens to be the same age that one can vote, serve in the military, enter into a contract, or be convicted of crimes in adult courts.

28 posted on 10/18/2005 1:27:18 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: Moral Hazard

What do wanna argue potential facts when this just FEELS like the right thing to do. Are you in favor of CHEAPER beer?

Why do you hate kids?


29 posted on 10/18/2005 1:27:54 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Judith Anne; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; Cantiloper; metesky; ...
And that was "for the children" too...

Well, let the brew drinkers shell out a little more money.  Maybe then they will appreciate some of OUR pain!

30 posted on 10/18/2005 1:28:05 PM PDT by SheLion (Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
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To: swarthyguy
Hey, raise the drinking age to 25.

I take it you're being sarcastic ... anyone who espouses that as a means of limiting alcohol consumption among a certain class of adult American citizens is truly 'stuck on stupid'.

31 posted on 10/18/2005 1:29:17 PM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: toddlintown
neo-prohibitionism.

Oh, no...if beer was illegal, that wouldn't work. No cash cow from taxes. See, it's just like cigarettes. They won't ban them altogether, because then, that might interfere with somebody's freedom to smoke. They'll just tax them to the skies. That way, everybody's happy. See?

32 posted on 10/18/2005 1:29:40 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

If faggots would stop being ass monkeys, that would help stop aids.


33 posted on 10/18/2005 1:30:16 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Want to be on my Civil Engineers ping list? Say the word!)
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To: bassmaner

>>anyone who espouses that as a means of limiting alcohol consumption among a certain class of adult American citizens is truly 'stuck on stupid'.

Why does the WOD come to mind.


34 posted on 10/18/2005 1:32:27 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: InvisibleChurch

Low beer tax rates cause AIDS. Who knew?


35 posted on 10/18/2005 1:32:31 PM PDT by Freedom_Fighter_2001 (When money is no object - it's your money they're talking about)
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To: bassmaner
The article is discussing raising taxes on beer to discourage underage drinking. While I think a child having a glass of wine with dinner in the presence of his/her parents should be legal, that's not what the article is about.
36 posted on 10/18/2005 1:32:32 PM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Glenn
How about a tax on red meat, that will cut down on heart attacks. A tax on soft drinks, that will cut down on tooth decay. A tax on junk food, that will cut down on obesity etc. etc. etc.
37 posted on 10/18/2005 1:32:52 PM PDT by John D
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To: InvisibleChurch

Perhaps the use of Trinoasitol would be much more cost effective..


38 posted on 10/18/2005 1:33:45 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
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39 posted on 10/18/2005 1:35:05 PM PDT by TXBSAFH (The GOP needs to be made to toe the conservative line, not the other way around.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
INCREASING BEER TAXES COULD HELP STOP THE SPREAD OF AIDS

Keeping it zipped is much more effective.

And how many bratty suburban kids get AIDS, anyway? How many of the kids who get AIDS come from lower-income brackets with other, more pressing problems than the price of beer?

40 posted on 10/18/2005 1:35:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Well, you can't stop sex. Every single person has a right to it, even kids. That's why they give out free condoms in middle school. Because they're entitled. And everybody KNOWS you can't do social engineering on sex by promoting abstinence for teens. Look what happened to the Boy Scouts! And the gay teens will sue if you make them feel bad or counsel them about HIV--unless you're gay too. Then, you can get paid for it by sensitive, aware school districts.

But, luckily, through taxes, you CAN do social engineering. Look how well it worked for cigarette smoking--and EVERYBODY got rich and had someone to make fun of and look down on. ;-D <-p>/sarcastic rant

41 posted on 10/18/2005 1:36:16 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Studies of teenagers suggest that heavy drinkers are more likely to be sexually active, more likely to have multiple partners, and less likely to use condoms.

AIDS is spread by Homosexual activity. Queers don't drink beer, just white wine spritzers.

42 posted on 10/18/2005 1:36:53 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Liberalism cannot survive in a free and open society.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
A 10 percent increase in the average state excise tax on beer will reduce AIDS rates by a range of 5.1 to 8.5 percent among young males.

I'm thinking this is one of the 94% of statistics that are made up on the spot. Either that or somebody in the study is doing the wrong thing with the beer bottles...

43 posted on 10/18/2005 1:37:32 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: The_Victor
The article is discussing raising taxes on beer to discourage underage drinking.

Only as a way to discourage STDs.

With nany statists don't ever, EVER, take the first layer of the oniion as anything but the cover.

44 posted on 10/18/2005 1:40:20 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: InvisibleChurch

But gay guys don't drink beer. How will this stop AIDS? They need to tax White Zinfandel and wine coolers... you know... the fruity, queer stuff.


45 posted on 10/18/2005 1:41:25 PM PDT by Redcloak (We'll raise up our glasses against evil forces singin' "whiskey for my men and beer for my horses!")
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To: All
Who ARE these people? Government group or private group?

Linda Gorman, "Alcohol Policies and Sexually Transmitted Disease Among Youth," NBER Digest, July 2005; based upon: Michael Grossman, Robert Kaestner and Sara Markowitz, "An Investigation of the Effects of Alcohol Policies on Youth STDs," National Bureau of Economic Research, Working Paper No. 10949, December 2004.

46 posted on 10/18/2005 1:42:45 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

HUH??? Only one thing that will stop the spread of AIDS, and it isn't a tax!


47 posted on 10/18/2005 1:54:09 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: Judith Anne; SheLion

What these so called "sin taxes" are, is hypocisy. The government doesn't want you to quit drinking and cigarette smoking. What if everyone voluntarily quit consuming and inhaling? The government would sh*t kittens trying to make up the lost revenue.

Draconian laws have already been passed to prevent under age drinking and smoking, by targeting the retailers and anyone else who serves alcohol. All it does is make the behavior more appealing to rebellious adolescents.

I hope you were being sarcastic in your reply.


48 posted on 10/18/2005 1:58:52 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I hope you were being sarcastic in your reply

Yes!

Sheesh! I can't believe you had to ask...:-(

49 posted on 10/18/2005 2:02:11 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

a better way would be to eliminate gay clubs in high schools.


50 posted on 10/18/2005 2:03:55 PM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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