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Group Sees Hypocrisy in Schools' Embracing 'Gay Pride,' Rejecting 'In God We Trust'
Agape Press ^ | 10.18.05 | Jim Brown and Jenni Parker

Posted on 10/18/2005 6:43:25 PM PDT by Coleus

Group Sees Hypocrisy in Schools' Embracing 'Gay Pride,' Rejecting 'In God We Trust'

The same school board that ignored parents' objections and allowed what many regard as a "gay pride" flag to be placed in a Livingston County, Michigan, high school has repeatedly rejected the idea of displaying posters featuring the U.S. national motto "In God We Trust."

Despite outrage from pro-family community members, Howell (Michigan) High School has refused to take down the rainbow-colored "diversity flag" that some students and parents who associate the emblem with homosexual pride find offensive. However, when the group called the Livingston Organization for Values in Education, or LOVE, offered to donate framed copies of "In God We Trust" posters for classroom display, the Howell Board of Education turned down the offer.

Some board members have argued that the community members protesting the rainbow flag are misinterpreting its meaning and significance. The flag was hung by the Howell High School's Diversity Club with the school administration's permission; and according to its defenders, the flag denotes tolerance, inclusion, and acceptance for all -- not necessarily promotion of the homosexual lifestyle.

Some Howell school officials believe LOVE's primary agenda in pushing the national motto poster and prolonging debate over the rainbow flag is simply to pressure the district to remove the flag and change its diversity policy. In a recent Ann Arbor News report, Howell School Board president Mary Jo Dymond said she and the other board members have moved on from this nearly two-year-old issue, and others who want to continue fighting over the "diversity flag" need to move on as well.

Nevertheless, LOVE spokeswoman Vicki Fyke says her group is not giving up the fight. "We will be at every school board meeting, asking again for some reconsideration," she insists. Meanwhile, the concerned citizens group is pressing the issue in other ways.

One LOVE member, Howell resident Tom Mallon, has e-mailed a letter to the school board and to Superintendent Chuck Briener, sharply criticizing the school officials' decision to refuse the national motto poster. In the letter, Ann Arbor News reports, Mallon claimed the district has demonstrated "a proclivity to disregard the traditional values" for which his group stands, and has stifled debate over these issues.

At the same time, Fyke points out, "We're educating the public. We're putting together some brochures, and we're going to make a mailing to the people that signed the marriage amendment and ask for some help. Now that we realize [the school board] won't listen to reason, maybe they'll listen to some numbers."

The LOVE representative feels the school board is promoting a one-sided view of diversity by displaying the homosexual pride flag while spurning the "In God We Trust" poster. She believes the board is demonstrating its bias and hypocrisy by censoring the national motto while embracing the controversial "gay pride" symbol to promote homosexuality.

"In trying to make one group of children feel comfortable, they have no problem offending another group of children," Fyke contends. "So we're just trying to find a way to bring common sense to the cause and see if we can find a way to make all the kids feel comfortable to go to school."

According to the American Family Association's Center for Law & Policy, three circuits of the U.S. Court of Appeals have upheld the constitutionality of the national motto. Nevertheless, the Howell School Board has repeatedly rejected the offer of the In God We Trust poster, giving as its reason that the issue of the separation of church and state is still being debated in court.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: bugerrers; deviants; education; gaypride; homosexualagenda; homosexuallist; hypocricy; hypocrisy; incondomstheytrust; ingodwetrust; pedophiles; perverts; schoolboard; schools; sickos
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To: moog
You have ruined my appetite for fudge. :)

Sorry. I had a good friend in high school who's father was "confused" let's say. Because of this I met a large number of queer men. They were a sad and self-loathing lot.

Oh they put on a good show. But I got to know some of them and they were just messed up in the head. They acted happy. But once you peeled back their exterior a bit you usually found self-destructive types.

It's like abortion. The discussion is "right to choose" or "pro-choice" or "it's the womans body". Or, my "favorite", it's a "privacy" issue. MY GOSH! YOU ARE KILLING A BABY! A HUMAN BEING! AND IT HAS RIGHTS TOO! But no, people have been trained to focus on certain "words" and away from the physical reality of things.

The same applies to queers, with the help of the media people have gotten used to focusing on "love" and "relationships" and "partners". Pablem! It's WHAT they do that's the issue. GROSS ME OUT! Oh, and by the way, they account for maybe 3% of the population. So could they just shut up? Queers are like Chihuahuas, they just make a lot of noise but when you get right down to it they are really too small to do anything...

21 posted on 10/18/2005 7:19:12 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Don't get stuck on stupid - Lt. General Honore)
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To: moog

"There must be some way to scrape these people off the bottom of my shoes....................FRegards

Sharp sticks work for dog crap:)"


LOLOLOLOL! That's just what I was thinking!


22 posted on 10/18/2005 7:19:48 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
Count me in. I worked for over 10 years before I got married and had kids and they can keep their jobs. I love it.

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My mom was one too and I sure appreciated her. As a teacher (like a lot of teachers), I REALLY appreciate stay-at-home moms. A good homemaker's kids are going to be pretty good ones usually. That's not to mention all the help and service they give. I realize there are some situations and circumstances, but again, I appreciate people like you who made that choice. I think that people really undervalue the true worth of moms. Without them, there wouldn't be anything.

23 posted on 10/18/2005 7:22:08 PM PDT by moog
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To: metmom
"Sharp sticks work for dog crap:)" LOLOLOLOL! That's just what I was thinking!

Having had to do it many times, I ought to know:)

24 posted on 10/18/2005 7:23:13 PM PDT by moog
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To: metmom
"Sharp sticks work for dog crap:)" LOLOLOLOL! That's just what I was thinking!

Having had to do it many times, I ought to know:)

25 posted on 10/18/2005 7:23:17 PM PDT by moog
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To: popdonnelly

Seems odd. Lots of Court decisions on this stuff.

If students at this High School created a club for God or Christ and it was open to everyone it would have to be recognized by the School. The students could then display a flag.
The parents would not be allowed to though.
A School District cannot bar students from exercising their religious or cultural rights in school clubs as long as they are tolerant and open to everyone that wishes to join.


26 posted on 10/18/2005 7:23:38 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: isthisnickcool

My sister used to work in theater some and has a lot of gay (male) friends. She told me that from what they told her, they are generally an unhappy lot and would really prefer not to be gay.


27 posted on 10/18/2005 7:24:17 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: moog

Thanks. What's that saying? The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.


28 posted on 10/18/2005 7:26:03 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: isthisnickcool
Sorry. I had a good friend in high school who's father was "confused" let's say. Because of this I met a large number of queer men. They were a sad and self-loathing lot. Oh they put on a good show. But I got to know some of them and they were just messed up in the head. They acted happy. But once you peeled back their exterior a bit you usually found self-destructive types. It's like abortion. The discussion is "right to choose" or "pro-choice" or "it's the womans body". Or, my "favorite", it's a "privacy" issue. MY GOSH! YOU ARE KILLING A BABY! A HUMAN BEING! AND IT HAS RIGHTS TOO! But no, people have been trained to focus on certain "words" and away from the physical reality of things. The same applies to queers, with the help of the media people have gotten used to focusing on "love" and "relationships" and "partners". Pablem! It's WHAT they do that's the issue. GROSS ME OUT! Oh, and by the way, they account for maybe 3% of the population. So could they just shut up? Queers are like Chihuahuas, they just make a lot of noise but when you get right down to it they are really too small to do anything...

I can't say I disagree with you. Interesting comments. Dead on about the abortion issue. I have an added beef with them because I would just love the "choice" to have a child and they're treating it like a piece of garbage.

I went to a party for my wife's work. One of the people she worked with was gay. I was just about ready to talk to a couple of guys when I noticed they were a little too "friendly" for my tastes. Egads! I got out of there quick and spent the rest of the time around the "normal" ones. That gay guy layed off a bunch of people, including my wife. She goes nuts when she hears the g word now. But justice prevails. He got laid off himself a few months later when the big boss was wondering why no one wanted to communicate with anyone.

The chiuahuah analogy is a unique one:).

30 posted on 10/18/2005 7:29:07 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog

Of all the jobs I've had to do as a mother, that is the one that grossed me out the most. Some #%@#% would let their dog roam and use our lawn to do its duty and one of us would invariably step in it. And we don't even own a dog. It would always happen to a pair of sneakers that we couldn't afford to just throw out; like new ones with LOTS of tread. ARGH!


31 posted on 10/18/2005 7:29:32 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Thanks. What's that saying? The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.

Definitely!!!!!! One good thing about my dad--he never let us kids disrespect my mom. I had many a sore backside before I finally learned my lesson.


32 posted on 10/18/2005 7:30:52 PM PDT by moog
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To: Baynative

I'll stay at home...

HEHE:)


33 posted on 10/18/2005 7:31:37 PM PDT by moog
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To: ConservativeGreek

Accurate stuff.


34 posted on 10/18/2005 7:32:50 PM PDT by moog
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To: metmom
Of all the jobs I've had to do as a mother, that is the one that grossed me out the most. Some #%@#% would let their dog roam and use our lawn to do its duty and one of us would invariably step in it. And we don't even own a dog. It would always happen to a pair of sneakers that we couldn't afford to just throw out; like new ones with LOTS of tread. ARGH!

We're dealing with the neighbor's dog too. She thinks our lawn is her territory and even barks at us once in a while when we're on it. :). I used to have to clean out our rabbit pens. Those rabbits must have had chronic diarrhea or have had pooping genes because they could fill up a cage faster than anything. I absolutely hated that job and can hardly stand to be around animal doo-doo any more. My wife usually cleans the litterbox since I can't stand it (she got the cats anyways:0).

35 posted on 10/18/2005 7:36:38 PM PDT by moog
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To: moog
I just can't believe how I hear kids talk to their parents these days. I was shopping the other day and some 2 or 3 year old was pitching a fit and then I heard him yell, "BAD MOMMY!" twice. There didn't seem to be any reaction on her part although I saw the father gently talking with the son. But kids that do this in public aren't usually doing it for the first time. You just can't reason good behavior into a toddler. They perceive this "gentle", controlled response as weakness.
36 posted on 10/18/2005 7:36:39 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: moog

Accurate stuff.

Thanks....was a School Board Chair for a few years.
Also remember many of the Columbine students that were killed were at their morning pray. Did some research about the how and why this was permitted "in School"!


37 posted on 10/18/2005 7:38:48 PM PDT by ConservativeGreek
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To: metmom
I just can't believe how I hear kids talk to their parents these days. I was shopping the other day and some 2 or 3 year old was pitching a fit and then I heard him yell, "BAD MOMMY!" twice. There didn't seem to be any reaction on her part although I saw the father gently talking with the son. But kids that do this in public aren't usually doing it for the first time. You just can't reason good behavior into a toddler. They perceive this "gentle", controlled response as weakness.

You hit that nail on the head. One of my students' moms said to me, "She acts that way because she knows she can manipulate me." There was no manipulating my dad at all (unless I washed the car first and promised to get gas). My mom was a little more lenient, but not much. If we got in trouble with her, it was "oh cr--, now I'm in double trouble."

38 posted on 10/18/2005 7:39:44 PM PDT by moog
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To: ConservativeGreek

Did some research about the how and why this was permitted "in School"!

The DOE puts out a pamphlet that outlines that and you are correct. Interesting research.


39 posted on 10/18/2005 7:40:43 PM PDT by moog
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To: EagleUSA

I want to "celebrate straight white male" day...

I have three sons


40 posted on 10/18/2005 7:41:18 PM PDT by Kimmers
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