Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Michelle, Ma Belle (What a difference twelve inches can make -- say, $53,000!)
The American Prowler ^ | 10/19/2005 | Reid Collins

Posted on 10/18/2005 10:51:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last
To: nickcarraway
Michelle, Ma Belle (What a difference twelve inches can make -- say, $53,000!)

I just clicked in here to see what this is about.

21 posted on 10/18/2005 11:30:02 PM PDT by Graymatter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway; Al Simmons; dangus; etcetera; Tall_Texan; Txshep
Bamberger

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/columnists/morning_buzz/12930832.htm?source=rss&channel=mercurynews_morning_buzz

Why wait to blow whistle?

Associated Press golf writer Doug Ferguson tackles the role of Sports Illustrated's Michael Bamberger, who on Sunday alerted a rules official to a possible violation by Michelle Wie on Saturday, leading to Wie's disqualification:

Should golf writers do anything when they think they see an infraction?

I came across this question in March at the Bay Hill Invitational, when K.J. Choi played a bunker shot to the 18th green. He left his first shot in the sand, then swept his foot over the sand to fill in the hole.

It appeared to be a violation, since players cannot test conditions in the hazard. Should that have been a double bogey instead of a bogey because of the one-shot penalty? I told rules official Mark Russell what I saw, and he went into the scoring trailer to speak to Choi before he signed his card. Turns out there is exception under Rule 13-4 for smoothing sand after a shot, provided it doesn't improve the lie on the next shot.

Bamberger's error was not in bringing up what he suspected was a violation, but his timing.

He was standing about 15 yards away as Wie's 5-wood on the uphill, 470-yard hole hit hard off the top of a slope and shot into an island of desert bushes.

When her caddie, 18-year LPGA veteran Greg Johnston, found the ball, Wie wasted no time telling fellow player Grace Park she was taking an unplayable lie, then taking out her driver to measure two club lengths and taking a drop. The first time, the ball inched forward, and she dropped it again. From there, some fronds from a small, desert palm slightly interfered with her backswing. She had 45 feet to the hole, the first 20 feet down a steep slope to the green. It was a weak, nervous chip to 15 feet, but she made the par putt.

Bamberger stayed behind and stepped off the distance from where her ball was in the bush to the hole, and from where she dropped to the hole. It caused him enough concern to bring it up to Smith the next day.

But if it bothered him enough that he paced it off, he has been around golf long enough to know that once a card is signed, there is no going back.

22 posted on 10/18/2005 11:30:57 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: dangus; Xenalyte

I figure my twelve incher has been worth way more than $53,000 to me. But I'm willing to rent it if you know how to treat it right. Especially if you know how to handle heavy wood.

What?!?! Geezapete, I'm talkin' bout my DeWalt 12" Miter Saw, you sick puppy!



23 posted on 10/18/2005 11:34:05 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The GOP's failure in the Senate is no excuse for betraying the conservative base that gave it to `em)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: beyond the sea

The drop.

24 posted on 10/18/2005 11:35:27 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: beyond the sea; All
I am still confused;

it appears that golf is a game that is umpired.....BY THE SPECTATORS?!?!?!?!?

As said earlier, WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?

I am glad I have never wasted 1 second on this stupid "sport" (if you can call it that).

I always kinda sorta thought that golf was a freakish game for FREAKS.

Now I know that I was correct....

Professional Wrestling is more of a "sport" than golf...

25 posted on 10/18/2005 11:43:31 PM PDT by Al Simmons (http://www.mumbogumbo.com - check it out...for some great music)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

"You are not the story; you are the observer of the story. Write the story, don't become part of the story."

Journalism 101 - first day in class, they have you write this down in your notebook. First test, this is a major portion of it. Journalism Ethics - you spend weeks going over this simple set of statements, applying it to different events.

He broke the rule; he became part of the story. He affected the results of the game. If he had suspecions on what happened, that's what the column is for - not going to the judges and recreating the observation.

There's generally a word for those in journalism who do this - outcasts. He wants to interview Tiger? Whoops, that got assigned to someone else, or perhaps Tiger isn't available for the interview. Who wants a repeat performace? What if he pulls this at the Masters - suspecion that a ball was switched and a gain of two inches is made, perhaps.


26 posted on 10/19/2005 12:13:47 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kingu

So, are you one of those people who believe a U.S. reporter shouldn't alert U.S. soldiers of a sneak attack they knew about (cf James Fallows)


27 posted on 10/19/2005 12:26:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

I'm not sure of all the rules, but isn't the idea of the "drop" really an approximation to begin with? That is why they literaly DROP the ball, so that while the play is MORE favorable at an equal distance? If there was a requirement of precision, then there wouldn't be a DROP to begin with, and the DROP was done at the penalty of a single stroke?

I don't know but this is what we throughout the world familiar with guys like, whoever that nobody "reporter" without the imagination to fabricate stories about political figures, is call this particular action a "D@#$ Move"


28 posted on 10/19/2005 12:53:49 AM PDT by wickedpinto (I tend to repeat, gimme a bit of time to get used to this.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
So, are you one of those people who believe a U.S. reporter shouldn't alert U.S. soldiers of a sneak attack they knew about (cf James Fallows)

Since I don't believe in the concept behind the shield law, I can't follow the trail to not alerting authorities about criminal intent, or battlefield intent. Human decency is not becoming the story; that's being human.
29 posted on 10/19/2005 1:51:47 AM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: FreedomCalls
She's putting a spell on her caddie.

;-)

30 posted on 10/19/2005 3:38:44 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Al Simmons

Golf's not your cup of tea, eh?


31 posted on 10/19/2005 3:39:58 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway; kingu

lame comparison! very lame!


32 posted on 10/19/2005 3:41:35 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: wickedpinto
I'm not sure of all the rules, but isn't the idea of the "drop" really an approximation to begin with? That is why they literaly DROP the ball, so that while the play is MORE favorable at an equal distance? If there was a requirement of precision, then there wouldn't be a DROP to begin with, and the DROP was done at the penalty of a single stroke?

Good point.

33 posted on 10/19/2005 3:42:37 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: wickedpinto
I'm not sure of all the rules, but isn't the idea of the "drop" really an approximation to begin with? That is why they literaly DROP the ball, so that while the play is MORE favorable at an equal distance? If there was a requirement of precision, then there wouldn't be a DROP to begin with, and the DROP was done at the penalty of a single stroke?

Good point but........... the drop is really done so as not to allow the player to place their ball to give themself a great lie.

34 posted on 10/19/2005 3:44:17 AM PDT by beyond the sea (Doctor, my eyes... tell me what is wrong...was I unwise to leave them open for so long)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Al Simmons
I watched a bit of the tournament on TV and was shocked at the obvious enmity one of the announcers had towards Wie.

At one point he said....Tiger Woods would have used such and such a club. The partner said, this is not Tiger Woods, this is a 16 year old.

It got to the point where I changed the channel.

35 posted on 10/19/2005 3:55:06 AM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Txshep
If the media a$$ had said something on the day he 'saw' the infraction it could have been corrected immediately by Wie adding one stroke to her card.

He deliberately waited an extra day so she would be disqualified.

Said he hadn't realized the rule that would have allowed her to correct the score.

PURE BULLDROPPINGS!

36 posted on 10/19/2005 3:57:59 AM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Tall_Texan

If he told her his 'concern's the day before she would have been able to change the score on her card. He waited an extra day making me believe he wanted to 'get her'.


37 posted on 10/19/2005 3:59:14 AM PDT by OldFriend (Corine Lombardo ~ American Patriot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: beyond the sea

Exactly. Why did Bammberger wait until Sunday to question Wie's drop? If he had done it on Saturday, before she signed her card she would have taken the penalty and moved on.

This will be one of those short-term bad, long-term good stations for Wie. It shows her character and will make her mentally stronger.


38 posted on 10/19/2005 4:13:40 AM PDT by rhetorica
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

12 inches in 45 yards? ? ?

I agree - all Bambergers SHUT UP!


39 posted on 10/19/2005 4:33:54 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Clintons have no sense of shame.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
"Michelle, Ma Belle (What a difference twelve inches can make -- say, $53,000!)"

She might be youthful and green to the game, but she is absolutely gorgeous and a hearthrob. After 18 years of marriage to a lovely wife, I can honestly say that seeing photos of the beautiful Miss Wie makes my heart palpitate.

Especially the photo below. [No, she's not blowing a kiss to me.]

Here's a couple more:


40 posted on 10/19/2005 4:36:10 AM PDT by tom h
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-6061-66 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson