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Stiffed by U.S., UN Asks Groups to Report on U.S. Rights Violations
One World US ^ | Tue Oct 18, 8:59 PM ET | Niko Kyriakou

Posted on 10/19/2005 4:21:21 AM PDT by Jay777

SAN FRANCISCO, October 18 (OneWorld) - In an unprecedented move, a UN committee has asked human and civil rights groups to submit reports and testify on U.S. breaches of international law, filling a gap left by the U.S. government’s failure to submit its own report.

The 18-member United Nations Human Rights Committee, which reviews nations’ compliance with the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, began reviewing country reports Monday and will complete its session on October 24.

But for the third time since ratifying the treaty in 1992, the United States has failed to submit its five-year report to the committee on U.S. violations of the treaty.

The treaty, which entered into force in 1976 and has been signed by 155 countries, outlaws torture or degrading treatment, protects self-determination, and ensures that all people everywhere are treated within the law.

Without a U.S. report, the committee usually skips over discussions of U.S. compliance.

But anticipating an absent U.S. report, the Human Rights Committee took precautions this year.

Last August, the committee sent a letter to a number of U.S.-based non-governmental organizations (NGOs), including the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the World Organization for Human Rights USA, requesting reports on U.S. transgressions of the treaty, to be used in case the U.S. itself failed to report.

Specifically, the committee’s letter requested documentation relating to, “the fight against terrorism following the events of 11 September 2001 and notably the implications of the Patriot Act on nationals as well as non-nationals; and problems relating to the legal status and treatment of persons detained in Afghanistan, Guantanamo, Iraq, and other places of detention outside the USA.”

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ACLU hand over 37 page report to the UN
1 posted on 10/19/2005 4:21:22 AM PDT by Jay777
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To: RepCath; Liz; IronJack; Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; Iris7; wkdaysoff; EdReform; Nick Danger; ...
PING!
2 posted on 10/19/2005 4:22:45 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777

"One of the most dangerous and corrupt organizations in the world, with the blood of thousands on its hands, has the gall to ask for reports of our government that has liberated thousands!"

Worth repeating from the article. Thanks for the link.


3 posted on 10/19/2005 4:24:51 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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To: Jay777

Screw the UN, the ACLU and the horse they rode in on. Neither is the social equal of used toilet paper.


4 posted on 10/19/2005 4:26:01 AM PDT by armydawg1 (" Amierca must win this war..." PVT Martin Treptow, KIA, WW1)
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To: Jay777

Dear UN: Go F___ Yourselves...


5 posted on 10/19/2005 4:28:56 AM PDT by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... M. Burns)
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To: Jay777

The face of the enemy is coming into focus.....

Semper Fi


6 posted on 10/19/2005 4:29:28 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: poobear

We will still wind up paying 25% (or so) of the cost of the report. I hope that no locals are raped by the UN team.


7 posted on 10/19/2005 4:29:45 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Jay777; eyespysomething

Best possible outcome: The United Nations Security Council will deem the U.S. a threat and attempt to send in troops. We can bomb the UN headquarters in NYC and then have 18-acres of prime Manhattan real estate that could be turned back over to the private sector.


8 posted on 10/19/2005 4:30:40 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: ncountylee; eyespysomething
I hope that no locals are raped by the UN team

ROFLMAO!

10 posted on 10/19/2005 4:32:18 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: SittinYonder
Best possible outcome: The United Nations Security Council will deem the U.S. a threat and attempt to send in troops. We can bomb the UN headquarters in NYC and then have 18-acres of prime Manhattan real estate that could be turned back over to the private sector.

A man with a plan. I like it!

11 posted on 10/19/2005 4:36:59 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: Jay777; All

Jay, any idea how much money give to the UN each year?


12 posted on 10/19/2005 4:39:20 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: Jay777

The US is up to it's ankles in rabid chihuahuas over at the UN.

Don't we have better uses for the money we waste on dues to this hostile world class street gang?


13 posted on 10/19/2005 4:40:12 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Don't quag Miers!!!!)
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To: Jay777

I guess the Sudan has cleaned its self up, the UN has way to much time on its hands.


14 posted on 10/19/2005 4:49:16 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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To: Jay777; Paul_Denton

15 posted on 10/19/2005 4:49:27 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Jay777
"But for the third time since ratifying the treaty in 1992, the United States has failed to submit its five-year report to the committee on U.S. violations of the treaty."

We should never report anything to this group of international thugs and we should never have ratified that treaty.

16 posted on 10/19/2005 4:49:43 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: Jay777
Why would I take anything coming out of something called OneworldUS seriously?

I decided in 1992 that they should send me a weekly report explaining the need to impose soviet style socialism on the successful countries of the world.
For the 677th time they have failed in their duty to do so, so we are appealing to everyone in the world to send in a report on their behalf, so we can issue more press releases about how awful they are.

Does this all make sense now?

17 posted on 10/19/2005 4:57:43 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Jay777

Seems the UN is a little upset about being pushed regarding their own in-house scandles and criminal violations. This reeks of a bit of tit for tat.

In addition many of the items they are "concerned" about have been or are already being investigated, tried, and punished through our own systems! With much more transparency than any investigation into a the UN messes.

Sure this will be touted as another of Bush's failures, but if I read the article correctly we have not filed a report since 1992, so that's 1997, and 2002. Logically, Bush can't be held liable for the missing reports. In fact the article states the Adminstration filed the 2002 report...albeit very late. The UN wasn't happy with the report they received because it didn't discuss Abu or Gitmo. Sorry UN, those items are due in the 2007 report, which will demonstrate our effective system to timely deter and address international violations!

Well too bad you sorry bunch of losers who can't even manage a Peace Keeping force without the use of barbaric measures of your own! It is the height of arrogance that such a body as the UN to call upon left leaning treasonous bodies to bring indictment against the US. We are currently engaged in war and organizations who provide information to our enemies (remember the UN body was not/is not part of the coalition) is committing treason. It is time to stop the traitors and bring them to court, I as a citizen of the United States of America and a victim of their criminal acts demand it.


18 posted on 10/19/2005 5:07:40 AM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)
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To: Jay777
The treaty, which entered into force in 1976 and has been signed by 155 countries, outlaws torture or degrading treatment, protects self-determination, and ensures that all people everywhere are treated within the law.

This pretty much includes every country on the planet, maybe a couple on the moon, too.

Please note that 1) the treaty outlaws torture or degrading treatment, protects self-determination, and ensures that all people everywhere are treated within the law.
and
2) It "entered into force" (who writes this crap?) 29 years ago, so every country other than the United States being of course in compliance, makes it unneccessary to have armed forces of any kind.

And please note that the 18 unnamed member nations which comprise this UN Committee Have all won the Sister Teresa Humanitarian Award 29 years running...

19 posted on 10/19/2005 5:08:39 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Jay777

America is under attack by various nefarious entities:

Muslim terrorism and Islamic oppressive demands

Anti-American Americans: Democrat Party, pro-socialist "liberals", neoMarxist/leftists, George Soros, ACLU, Farakhan & Jesse Jackson, et al.

The United Nations and Amnesty International

*Advisory: CAVEAT EMPTOR! Scout motto: "Be Prepared."


20 posted on 10/19/2005 5:25:04 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: poobear

Wait until Slick Willie assumes his proper seat at the head of the UN table. He'll whip the USA into line.

What a joke these buffoons are.


21 posted on 10/19/2005 5:30:54 AM PDT by Family_Before_Party
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To: Family_Before_Party
I'm sure Willie and the Beast dream of the sweet 'deals' they could accomplish as the world dictators of the 21st century!

Ugh!
22 posted on 10/19/2005 5:34:39 AM PDT by poobear (Imagine a world of liberal silence!)
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To: Jay777

I can't understand why anyone would support the ACLU. What do they do that's worthwhile?


23 posted on 10/19/2005 5:37:12 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

Is this a trick question?


24 posted on 10/19/2005 5:39:00 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777
U.S. to UN . . . "Here's our report, reflective of the worth we put on it."


25 posted on 10/19/2005 5:49:38 AM PDT by geedee (Most people don't really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility and courage.)
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To: purpleland
Scout motto: "Be Prepared."

I am!

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26 posted on 10/19/2005 6:02:28 AM PDT by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: Jay777

I suggest we form our own civil rights group dedicated to the 2nd Amendment and to the rights of the unborn. Then we flood the UN with our reports.

Mike


27 posted on 10/19/2005 6:04:19 AM PDT by BCR #226
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To: gieriscm

ping...


28 posted on 10/19/2005 6:05:19 AM PDT by BCR #226
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To: Jay777

What is the "United Nations"?


29 posted on 10/19/2005 6:14:46 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: Dallas59

Is this a trick question?


30 posted on 10/19/2005 6:17:34 AM PDT by Jay777 (My personal blog: www.stoptheaclu.com)
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To: Jay777
"The treaty...ensures that all people everywhere are treated within the law."

Is this a joke?

31 posted on 10/19/2005 6:19:01 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Jay777

I've been rather critical of the Bush administration in the last few weeks, w/ Miers and whatnot, but if there is one thing the president and his people have gotten right, it's their treatment of the UN. Instead of wringing their hands and submitting to the UN's 'superior moral authoirty' </barf> like every Democrat out there, they've told the UN where they can shove it. Now, if we could only stop sending them money.


32 posted on 10/19/2005 6:24:00 AM PDT by jjm2111 (99.7 FM Radio Kuwait)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

Screw the UN.

Why couldn't the 9/11 planes have hit the UN building instead? Am I a sick bastard for wishing they had?


33 posted on 10/19/2005 6:26:41 AM PDT by RockinRight (I am beginning to think conservatism is buried somewhere under New Orleans' mud...)
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To: RockinRight

"Am I a sick bastard for wishing they had?"

LOL! No way, you are just as healthy as I am.


34 posted on 10/19/2005 6:29:58 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Don't quag Miers!!!!)
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To: purpleland

Suggested Added Advisory, Caligula: "ODERINT DUM METUANT" - Let them hate, so long as they fear.


35 posted on 10/19/2005 6:34:56 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SittinYonder
Best possible outcome: The United Nations Security Council will deem the U.S. a threat and attempt to send in troops.

Our first invasion clue would be the UN request for troops.

36 posted on 10/19/2005 6:37:54 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: geedee

The graphic you posted would apply to Amnesty International reports on U.S. Human Rights violations.

Let's face it: AI and UN are scapegoating America because they are too cowardly, ethically corrupt and intellectually dishonest to call out terrorist orgs and oppressive governments on their murderous violations.

I say: Throw their cowardly duplicity right back between the eyes of their two-faced hypocrisy. Mock these phonies for posing on a grandstand against human rights violations.


37 posted on 10/19/2005 6:39:49 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: magslinger

Scout motto: "Be Prepared."

I am!

*Way to go!


38 posted on 10/19/2005 6:44:02 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: Jay777

The U.S. needs to adopt the policy invented by David Ben Gurien (or was that Golda Meir?). It is called Oom-Shmoom: where no one gives a sh*t about the UN.


39 posted on 10/19/2005 6:47:13 AM PDT by Paul_Denton (Stom ta jora Oom (Translation: Shut the F*** up UN))
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Our first invasion clue would be the UN request for troops.

I'm laughing ... but you're probably right!

40 posted on 10/19/2005 6:48:30 AM PDT by SittinYonder (Flea, feather, bird, egg, nest, twig, branch, limb, tree, and the bog down in the valley - o.)
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To: PzLdr

"Suggested Added Advisory, Caligula: "ODERINT DUM METUANT" - Let them hate, so long as they fear."

I'll buy motto too, mindful that Caligula was an insane tyrant.


41 posted on 10/19/2005 6:50:58 AM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: Dallas59

English for "Das viertal Reich".


42 posted on 10/19/2005 6:51:03 AM PDT by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: Jay777
Dear UN:

Please send the annual dues billing to the ACLU and the other NGOs that you requested to provide data on the US. It seems they have decided to usurp the power of the USA and therefore they have assumed, voluntarily, the financial obligations as well.

Thank you very much.

U S Citizens

43 posted on 10/19/2005 6:52:44 AM PDT by McGavin999 (We're a First World Country with a Third World Press (Except for Hume & Garrett ))
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Our first invasion clue would be the UN request for troops.

Won't that be kinda weird to see the UN send a request to the US for troops to invade the US?

I mean who else is gonna send them?
44 posted on 10/19/2005 6:53:45 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (11, 175, 77, 93 - In Memory Always)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

LOL Mrs Magslinger is not pleased with you. She had been sleeping in until I read your post.


45 posted on 10/19/2005 6:58:01 AM PDT by magslinger (At the end of the day the only truly educated people are autodidacts.)
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To: poobear

I've got a new thought!

Perhaps it is time for the US to get out of the UN, and abolish it from our soil!


46 posted on 10/19/2005 8:38:41 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Jay777

"But for the third time since ratifying the treaty in 1992, the United States has failed to submit its five-year report to the committee on U.S. violations of the treaty"

Does this mean that the sainted Clinton Administration also failed to comply?
Oh dear. They must have had a good reason. Like not wanting to reveal they dropped shrapnel, not bombs, on the civilian population of Belgrade?


47 posted on 10/19/2005 12:13:18 PM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: purpleland
The graphic you posted would apply to Amnesty International reports on U.S. Human Rights violations.

Amen to that. I'm sick and tired of the U.S. getting blamed for all the world's problems.

48 posted on 10/19/2005 2:18:08 PM PDT by geedee (Most people don't really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility and courage.)
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To: geedee

"The graphic you posted would apply to Amnesty International reports on U.S. Human Rights violations."

Amen to that. I'm sick and tired of the U.S. getting blamed for all the world's problems.

*I say "shove it" to the international commune, the EU, the United Nations, Amnesty International, and other anti-American entities such as the Democrat party, U.S. MEDIA, et al. I'd swear to enjoy the predictable ad hominems:

Xenophobe! Isolationist! Racist! Bigot! Diversity-phobe.
AND, in Hillary Clinton's own words to her French cultish fans, "Americans are selfish."



49 posted on 10/19/2005 2:36:38 PM PDT by purpleland (Vigilance and Valor!)
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To: Jay777

Oh Yes, let's give oversight of the U.S. Military over to the U.N. to prosecute our troops, after all "The US Army is broken and warn out". This will relieve me of my oversight duties and all me to vote against more proposals that I make.

/Sarcasm off

50 posted on 12/02/2005 5:28:50 AM PST by sr4402
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