Posted on 10/19/2005 7:14:25 AM PDT by Quaker
Soon the phrase will become high camp here, and a legend in our own minds. Just think, we're going to be stuck with "It's all Bush's fault" for three more years.
Then, given the propensity lately of so many panicky conservatives to shoot themselves in the foot, we'll be stuck with "It's all Hillary's fault" for the subsequent four years, at minimum.
As Henry II cried out in reference to Thomas Becket, "Will no one rid me of this troublesome phrase.....oops, priest?"
Leni
I blame American style Capitalism.
The earth is just reacting to it, so says Huge Chavez, the latest Darling of the Left.
Lowest pressure ever, but no mention of the actual measured pressure.
Like saying, "You're bleeding," then walking away.
It should dimish from its peak because of the cooler waters as it approaches the coastline where ever it goes inland.
Sheesh............
"I blame American style Capitalism.
The earth is just reacting to it, so says Huge Chavez, the latest Darling of the Left."
Obviously we can't expect rationality from Chavez... but if Americans would look at the situation honestly they would realize that global warming stopped between 1945 and 1976 and accelerated very quickly. And that doesn't match human greenhouse gas production.
Now on the other side, conservatives claiming that global warming isn't happening aren't helping either. Global warming is real and the consequences will be real if it doesn't stop. We can plan for the consequences without causing unnecessary harm by adopting Kyoto. We need better hurricane planning and coastal erosion planning. The sea level is definitely rising and the seas are getting warmer.
I challenge that assertation....
Antartica is getting colder and the ice is piling up down there....
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What Arctic Warming? - October 13, 2005- Dont let The New York Times
confuse you -- there still isnt any evidence that human activity is melting the polar
regions. So says Steven Milloy.
See more at What Arctic Warming?
The Next Ice Age Is on Its Way - 12 Oct 05 This coming winter
will be the coldest in recorded history, says Philip V. Brennan of newsmax.
Last winter, previous records for frigid weather and massive snowstorms fell
like ... well ... a heavy snowfall. If I'm right, we ain't seen nothing yet.
See Ice Age on its Way
Earliest major snowstorm in North Dakota in 130 years - 5 October 2005
See daily listing of Record Low Temperatures across the United States.
NASA, The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration, every major relevant scientific group in the U.S. and similar groups in dozens of other countries have looked at the data and checked each other and universally agree the the earth is warming, that the seas are warming and that the seas are rising.
It doesn't help to be in denial. It doesn't help to point out local exceptions - we are talking about world averages.
It would be helpful to point out to people you know that there is no proof that humans have caused these changes.
There are serious scientists that are not agreeing with the large organizations assertions....many of which have been co-opted by the Marxists agenda.....we are getting seriously off topic but I couldn't let your statements pass without challenge.
See these threads:
Kyoto will cause stunning unneccessary economic harm. That's the whole point of rejecting it - and the whole reason that the economic enemies of the United States drafted it.
"There are serious scientists that are not agreeing with the large organizations assertions....many of which have been co-opted by the Marxists agenda.....we are getting seriously off topic but I couldn't let your statements pass without challenge."
The data is public and checked by peer review methods.
And those threads you linked to bring into question whether the causes are human activity. That's a valid question. I personally don't believe it is human caused, at least not primarily.
But there is no doubt that the earth has warmed and that seas have risen and that seas are warmer. Much of the data was collected and was public before there was any political reason to fabricate it - the trend started 100 years ago before the greenhouse gas theory even existed.
Even that Newsmax reporter you linked to says the seas are warming he just doesnt believe it's related to global warming. I agree there is no proof of a link. But they are both happening and need to be prepared for.
For the record I completely oppose Kyoto.
But I agree this is off track for this thread and I'd be happy to continue the discussion in a different thread.
"Kyoto will cause stunning unnecessary economic harm. That's the whole point of rejecting it - and the whole reason that the economic enemies of the United States drafted it."
Kyoto is a brilliant put up job and one that we need to combat intelligently. Conservative are not doing a very good job right now. We need to argue about causes, not deny facts that are easily verifiable by scientific organizations around the world.
Here's my standard bear:
http://www.crownweather.com/tropical.html
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