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Hockey fighting flares emotions - on both sides
Lansing State Journal ^ | October 19, 2005 | John Schneider

Posted on 10/19/2005 10:17:59 PM PDT by RWR8189

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To: KateatRFM

that is ridiculous, late hits, punches away from the puck constitute unsportsmanlike conduct and avoiding that doesn't promote sissification in the slightest. as my husband always tells my son, beat everyone to the puck and you won't have to be doing the hitting, let THEM get the penalty calls because you are there FIRST. excellent hockey doesn't require thuggish behavior in the slightest.


21 posted on 10/20/2005 5:44:06 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: RWR8189

I don't want to get into the whole "fighting in hockey" debate, but I'll agree that a youth hockey coach who orchestrates fights in practice has no place behind the bench


22 posted on 10/20/2005 5:49:14 AM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: RWR8189
As a former player myself and currently a youth hockey coach I agree with you. However, I do disagree on one point: not only should the guy not be in charge of a team, he should not even be allowed in the building.
23 posted on 10/20/2005 5:51:52 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: Hat-Trick; airborne; SZonian; retrokitten; hollywood; Alberta's Child; 6323cd; Betis70; ColoCdn; ...
Hockey Ping!

RWR...thanks for the ping on this one.

Freep mail/ping airborne or Hat-Trick if you want on or off the Hockey Ping List.

24 posted on 10/20/2005 7:14:39 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: RWR8189

Ned Braden: What are you doing?
Jeff Hanson: Puttin' on the foil!
Steve Hanson: Every game!
Jack Hanson: Want some?


25 posted on 10/20/2005 7:21:09 AM PDT by angryirish
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To: xsmommy
beat everyone to the puck and you won't have to be doing the hitting

Exactly, and excellent advice. You can't hit what you can't catch.

26 posted on 10/20/2005 7:23:56 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: RWR8189
This guy should not be in charge of any team.

Maybe Shanny or Chelios should dance with this jerk at center ice so he can show what a tough guy he really is.

I'm sure that more than a few hockey people would pay to see that.

27 posted on 10/20/2005 7:27:37 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: Hat-Trick

if the thugs put half the effort into SKATING that they put into fighting, there wouldn't be fights. : ) the thugs are generally the ones with the least hockey ability, it seems to me.


28 posted on 10/20/2005 7:28:42 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: RWR8189

Any coach who instructs a 17 year old to fight should not be a coach!


29 posted on 10/20/2005 7:39:46 AM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Skip Ripley

I am an accredited USA Hockey coach and referee and can state for a fact that the actions of this coach are not sanctioned.
There is absolutely no place for fighting in USA Hockey games or practices. It is absolutely banned. When seen, it is punished severely, usually with an immediate game misconduct and a subsequent game suspension, or more.


30 posted on 10/20/2005 7:40:25 AM PDT by jjmcgo
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To: Grig
Rome had it's gladiators, we have hockey.

Nonsense!

31 posted on 10/20/2005 7:42:10 AM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: Hat-Trick

Thanks for the ping Hat-Trick,

I agree with most posters here, fighting has no place in a "YOUTH" league, semi-pros and up should be allowed to mix it up because if they don't learn how to "defend" themselves from cheap or dirty shots/hits, their career will be over in a short time.

Cheers!


GO Flyers!


32 posted on 10/20/2005 7:46:52 AM PDT by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: RWR8189

"Ordered the kids to drop their gloves and helmets."One player suffered a concussion?I hope this "coach" has lots of liability insurance.


33 posted on 10/20/2005 7:51:25 AM PDT by Thombo2
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To: xsmommy
many of the hockey parents are every bit the thugs that their kids are!

That is an urban myth. I have coached 16 youth teams including 1 this year. I have only had a problem once I would consider serious with a parent over that entire period.

USA Hockey and most rinks have a zero tolerance policy.

34 posted on 10/20/2005 7:52:01 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: JIM O

i beg to differ. my son has played travel ice hockey for the past 7 years. to date, i haven't seen any parents brawling, but there has been the potential more than once, depending on the teams. Some are worse than others.


35 posted on 10/20/2005 7:54:52 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: RWR8189

I'm a big proponent of fighting in hockey, it's a natural outcome of the intensity of the game and the only way to truly get rid of it is to drop the intensity and make the sport itself less interesting. That being said it has no place in youth hockey, and seriously has no place in practice especially not ordered by the coach, part of the idea of practice is developing team unity and having the team fight each other isn't generally good for team unity.


36 posted on 10/20/2005 8:03:34 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: xsmommy
. my son has played travel ice hockey for the past 7 years. to date, i haven't seen any parents brawling ...

In the bush leagues of rural northern Canada, the aftermath of a game often involves a major "Here comes the RCMP" brawl between fans from the visitor's town and the locals.

I almost typed 'usually' instead of 'often'.

37 posted on 10/20/2005 8:05:11 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: carumba

They drop the gloves to do more damage, they actually try to keep the helmet on generally (while trying to take the other guy's helmet off) but if it gets dislodged they get rid of it because it becomes a hazard (can get in front of your eyes so you can't see, having it hanging around your neck isn't so nice in a fight either).


38 posted on 10/20/2005 8:07:43 AM PDT by discostu (When someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them right back)
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To: RWR8189
Fighting has no place in amateur hockey.

They'll be doing it as soon as they get to college (if they go), which last I checked is still amateur.

I have no problem with a coach teaching kids the do's and don'ts of hockey fighting, as long as it's done appropriately. Think boxing, wrestling, kung fu. I don't think "okay, you two pair up and wail on each other" is a good way to go about it.

39 posted on 10/20/2005 8:27:32 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("She was appointed by a conservative. That ought to have been enough for us." -- NotBrilliant)
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To: xsmommy
the thugs are generally the ones with the least hockey ability, it seems to me.

Two words. Darren McCarty. Two more. Brendan Shanahan. They can put the puck in the net, and also put the opponents flat on their butts.

40 posted on 10/20/2005 8:44:10 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("My Gov'nor don't got the answer")
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