Posted on 10/20/2005 1:14:04 AM PDT by Richard-SIA
H.R. 800/S. 397 to be voted on today! Call congress ASAP!
It is time to pass the Lawful Commerce In Firearms Protection Act, no more delays, let's get it done TODAY!
The House is scheduled to bring up H.R. 800/S. 397 for a vote today. (Thursday).
We need to continue fighting for the CLEAN version of the bill to protect gun makers from HCI's predatory lawsuits, H.R. 800).
It is imperative that you make your last-minute calls to the Hill in support of H.R. 800, especially if you have not done so already.
Please ask your Representative to oppose S. 397, the amended senate version, and to insist upon H.R. 800, which contains no gun control or "studies" at all.
So let's get this one passed today, then demand passage of H.R. 2088, H.R. 1603, and H.R. 1703.
Passing ANY of these bills would set the anti's back several years, passing them all would set the anti's back about about forty years!
I am tired of fighting from defense, let's get serious and put the anti's on the defensive for a change.
ping
My congresscritter has been notified ~ Bump!
Done
On CSPAN now!
Passed 283 to 144
I called, done.
Can we get a vote count after the vote is taken? I already know how one of my senators, if not both, will vote.
Which bill passed?
H.R. 800 or S. 397? That's the question.
It was S. 397 complete with the asinine Gun Lock provision.
Indeed, I just got it from the horse's mouth. "Commenting on the passage of this landmark legislation, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said, 'This is an historic victory for the NRA. Freedom, truth and justice prevailed, and today S. 397 is one step closer to becoming the law of the land.'"
We'll have to take some solace in the fact that the NRA is still pushing for shall issue, concealed carry privileges, including Alaska's new concealed carry right, in all states, and uniform state law pre-emption over local gun control laws. Here are references about body armor standards which pertains to the other amendment in S. 397 to study ammo and LEO body armor.
Body Armor Standards and Testing
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bvpbasi/docs/SupplementII_08_12_05.pdf
A half step forward, politics prevailed.
It's high time for this law, to stop the back door approach the left is using to deny us Constitutional rights.
Give them the chance and they will start sueing Car Manufacturers over drunk drivers.
Thanks for the ping! Good news!
Check the roll call. Socialist Bernie Sanders running for the Senate, Jim Jefford's open seat in Vermont, voted for S. 397.
On the bright side, perhaps someday the Supreme Court will find itself ruling that the trigger-lock provision is an infringement of the Second Amendment. One can hope.
During the voting they took a call from a woman in Houston (I believe), that set the record straight concerning "Armor Piercing" ammunition. She stated correctly that if the amendment passed it would've outlawed every "Hi-Powered" hunting rifle round currently in existence in this country.
To pre Gun Control Act? Would that mean I could buy surplus weapons over the internet and have them shipped direct to my house? Cool. I want a 20 mm Solothurn or Lahti, they both fire the same 20x138B shell, just a little medium loading :)
Actually a half step forward for the industry, but a step onto the slippery slope towards mandatory trigger lock usage for us.
However there is a little bit more good news. From S 397 as passed.
(a) Findings- Congress finds the following:
(1) The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
(2) The Second Amendment to the United States Constitution protects the rights of individuals, including those who are not members of a militia or engaged in military service or training, to keep and bear arms.
Now that doesn't carry any force of law, it's in the findings, not the parts that will make it into the US Code. However it is something to be cited the next time a law which violates the second amendment is challenged in court.
The down side is that darn trigger lock business, although since in this bill it's not mandatory to actually use them, I guess it doesn't infringe on the right to either keep or bear arms.
"H.R. 800 or S. 397? That's the question."
It has to be HR-800 if the vote was 283-144. The senate only has 100 people.
The House voted for S. 397 as is. Check comments# 14 & 15. They didn't want to risk going to a conference committee.
It has to be HR-800 if the vote was 283-144. The senate only has 100 people.
That seems logical but with Democrat voters..sometimes the votes can be bigger than the whole eloctorate !
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