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New browser gives taste of Web 2.0
CNet ^ | 21 October 2005 | Renai LeMay

Posted on 10/21/2005 11:25:31 AM PDT by ShadowAce

A small team of developers in California on Friday launched a cutting-edge Firefox-based Web browser dubbed Flock, which integrates next-generation Web technologies such as RSS content feeds, blogs and bookmark and photo sharing.

The team of developers was spearheaded by Bart Decrem, who is well known in the open-source community due to his involvement in the Mozilla Foundation and his ill-fated start-up Eazel, which from 1999 until its demise in 2001 aimed to bring greater usability features to the Linux desktop.

"Indeed the time is upon us," wrote Flock co-founder Geoffrey Arone on his blog shortly before the release. "We are gearing up to allow public, unrestricted downloads of the Flock browser within the next couple of hours."

"Please note that this is a developer preview and that there are still plenty of bugs, many of which we are aware of."

The public unveiling comes after Decrem this week e-mailed invitations to try his new software to a select group of recipients who had previously registered their addresses on the project's Web site. The round of invitations was the third to be issued for the software during its development.

Flocking to new features
The browser's new features are based on new Web technologies fast attracting fans in the online community--part of a movement that has come to be known as Web 2.0.

For example, the traditional Web browser bookmarks menu has been replaced in favor of close integration with del.icio.us, an online service that allows bookmarks to be stored and shared with other users.

The Flock team has taken note of the Internet community's rapidly growing obsession with both blogs and the Really Simple Syndication (RSS) standard that makes it possible to speedily know when a blog has been updated.

Flock includes a built-in RSS reader, which allows a user to read all of their favorite blogs in one place, without the need to separately navigate to each one. Various Web sites and software programs already provide this functionality, but Flock is one of the first to integrate it into a Web browser.

The browser also facilitates blogging by the user with a "Create a blog post" button located in the main navigation bar. The button launches a sophisticated blogging tool that integrates on a drag-and-drop level with Flickr, a popular online photo management and sharing service recently acquired by Yahoo.

Flock integrates with a number of popular blogging services, including Wordpress, Six Apart and Blogger, according to Decrem's own blog.

All of the features both reflect popular usage within early adopter elements of the Web and are squarely aimed at providing collaborative Web browsing features.

Firefox tensions
Decrem has taken steps recently to convince the open-source Mozilla community that his new start-up isn't aimed at making their popular Firefox Web browser obsolete.

"I am a firm believer in the power of the open source development model," he wrote yesterday. "So it's always been obvious to me that Flock should leverage existing open source technologies and contribute most, if not all, our enhancements back under an open source license."

He said Flock was not interested in causing problems by creating a code base that diverges from Firefox's own, a development known as "forking."

"In architecting our software, build systems and engineering processes, we have given considerable thought to how our code will be able to evolve alongside the Mozilla code, without forking it," he wrote.

"Of course, time will tell how successful we are in avoiding unnecessary divergence between the Flock code base and the Mozilla code. This ultimately depends on the thousands of engineering decisions we will make in the coming months and years, but also on the level of communication between folks here and the broader Mozilla community."

"For our part, we are very serious about becoming active participants in and contributors to the Mozilla community, starting in the very near future. We are also very open to working with folks at the Mozilla Foundation, the Mozilla Corporation and elsewhere to minimize the risk of platform divergence and have taken the first steps to start that conversation."

Decrem also addressed the issue of how his free software project would attract revenue.

While he acknowledged most Web browsers were freely available, he said several companies, such as the Mozilla Corporation and competitor Opera, had been able to leverage integration between their software and online services like search engines to make money.

"Opera's CEO recently explained that his company was able to release the browser for free thanks to an expanded search sponsorship arrangement with Google," he wrote. "The Mozilla Foundation has alluded to search related business arrangements and has created a for-profit subsidiary."

"In sum, we're quite comfortable that, if enough users choose our browser, we can keep the lights on here at Flock without violating users' privacy or compromising the user experience."


TOPICS: Technical
KEYWORDS: browser; firefox; flock; mozilla; opensource; oss
You can download it here.

BTW--This is my first post from the Flock.

1 posted on 10/21/2005 11:25:43 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 10/21/2005 11:26:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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3 posted on 10/21/2005 11:26:37 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

You want me to Flock up my computer?.........


4 posted on 10/21/2005 11:28:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: ShadowAce

bump for later


5 posted on 10/21/2005 11:28:17 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: ShadowAce
I do a lot of my web browsing using Lynx, a text-only browser. I't allows me to quickly rip through text-heavy sites like Free Republic without the distractions of formatting, pictures, and ads. My day is already too short to read, watch, and do everything I'd like to. I really don't need features which make even more content available that I won't have time to look at. As an added bonus, I don't have to worry about spyware.
6 posted on 10/21/2005 11:32:05 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: ShadowAce

Using it now -- so far, so good!


7 posted on 10/21/2005 11:39:46 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Question_Assumptions

"I don't have to worry about spyware"

I bet!! On a monochrome 'dumb' terminal, there's a lot of things you don't have to worry about :)

Please don't tell me you have an ASCII art porn collection too!


8 posted on 10/21/2005 11:50:49 AM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: ShadowAce

http://www.flock.com/fiveways/togetstarted/13.php

Some info.


9 posted on 10/21/2005 12:03:30 PM PDT by M203M4
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To: PissAndVinegar
Uh, no.
10 posted on 10/21/2005 12:49:09 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: ShadowAce
Zeugma Flocks.

This appears to be an interesting adaptation of Firefox. I need to look at it, but it appears to largely be just an XUL front-end.

11 posted on 10/21/2005 1:28:48 PM PDT by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: ShadowAce

As I said before, the word "bloatware" comes to mind.


12 posted on 10/21/2005 1:38:25 PM PDT by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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To: ShadowAce

for home stuff thanks


13 posted on 10/21/2005 1:40:33 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (<>< Like $3 a gallon gas? Thank an enviromentalist.)
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To: ShadowAce

I honestly dont see the big deal, its just a browser. But Ill give it a little time to see what it can do..


14 posted on 10/21/2005 1:57:44 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: ShadowAce

I like the RSS feed option.


15 posted on 10/21/2005 3:25:48 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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To: Nightshift

ping....


16 posted on 10/21/2005 3:51:21 PM PDT by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: Bush2000; Prime Choice; N3WBI3

So what do you think about this B2K?

Hello?


LOL


17 posted on 10/21/2005 4:38:04 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: Red Badger
You want me to Flock up my computer?

Yes. And remember: failure is not an option...it comes bundled with Windows.

18 posted on 10/21/2005 4:40:26 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: PissAndVinegar

Yeah, just give me a monochrome "dumb" terminal, my ASCII art, my Leisure Suit Larry game and a dot-matrix printer and that's all I need to get by. I don't need those fancy-schmanzy "color" screens with all the gizmos. Just give me plain text and lots of it. Now excuse me for a moment while I go fuss with the rabbit-ears on my 15-inch black and white TV.


19 posted on 10/21/2005 4:48:35 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (What Would Howard Roarke Do?)
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To: MikeinIraq
So what do you think about this B2K?

Why, I do believe he's been banned or suspended.

Mercy, mercy me. I think Brass Buzzard must 24 hour watch by now...

20 posted on 10/21/2005 4:49:11 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: Prime Choice

LOL

yes I believe so!!


21 posted on 10/21/2005 4:49:40 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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To: ShadowAce

bookmark for later...


22 posted on 10/21/2005 4:51:05 PM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes (We know the right things to do, why don't we just do them?)
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To: ShadowAce

The entire concept of "Web 2.0" is so deeply annoying. It's jst a buzzword with no legitimate meaning. Just call it what it is: More complicated uses of Javascript.


23 posted on 10/21/2005 4:56:51 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (Pirro '06 - Save New York!)
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To: Prime Choice

My God, you're right! He WAS kind of an obnoxious BG sycophant, but I wonder what he did to get banned. ("What kind of sycophant are you, anyway?" --- "What kind of sycophant would you LIKE me to be?")


24 posted on 10/21/2005 5:41:00 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Disregard the law of unintended consequences at your own risk.)
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To: Prime Choice

Bush2000 banned? Why?

... or will he come back as BushVista?


25 posted on 10/21/2005 5:42:40 PM PDT by evilC ([573]Tag Server Error, Tag not found)
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To: Prime Choice

Pity, does anyone know what he was suspended for?


26 posted on 10/21/2005 6:31:49 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Prime Choice; MikeinIraq

http://www.freerepublic.com/~Bush2000/

WOHOOO!!!!!!

hey mike, i bet it was his last comments towards you that finally got him kicked.


27 posted on 10/21/2005 8:12:03 PM PDT by postaldave (i've given up on being mad in exchange for bitter sarcasm.)
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To: N3WBI3

his last comments that i read were mocking mikeiniraq for being back home.

if in fact mikeiniraq is a soldier(name implies that) his comments needed a good ass kicking let alone being banned.


28 posted on 10/21/2005 8:15:07 PM PDT by postaldave (i've given up on being mad in exchange for bitter sarcasm.)
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To: ShadowAce

Tell somebody who gives a $--t


29 posted on 10/21/2005 8:29:50 PM PDT by old-ager
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To: Red Badger
You want me to Flock up my computer?.........

No, man! They just want to fork up your browser.

30 posted on 10/21/2005 8:34:52 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (HOUSTON ASTROS - NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 2005)
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To: ShadowAce

"Flock", how appropriate.

http://www.demzilla.com


31 posted on 10/22/2005 5:51:39 AM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: old-ager

I did--that's the point of my tech ping list. You're not on it, so I assume I wasn't talking to you.


32 posted on 10/23/2005 1:34:59 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

lol...


33 posted on 10/24/2005 1:15:16 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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