Posted on 10/21/2005 3:22:55 PM PDT by ruhwaterloo
Yes and No.
They definitely combine elements of socialism, but I can give you a source from a pro-slavery Southerner who spoke of slavery as the ultimate form of socialism. It doesn't mean that the person who wrote that is a 'leftist.'
As much as I don't like saying it (mainly because I've said the same as you before) the Nazis main base of support was the 'right.' The conservatives of Germany were in favor of returning to an authoritarian government and ending the Weimar experiment. THe Nazis eventually turned on everyone, including the small businesspeople they pledged to protect against the encroachments of big "Jewish" industry and banking.
But if one judges a movement by where it gets its support, Nazi allies(those that foolishly thought they could exploit its nationalism an anti-bolshevism) it is a right-wing movement. It is not Burkean conservative, of course, but it ain't really left wing.
That is not to say, however, that there aren't new splinters and revisionings of the National Socialist ideology that look much more left-wing than the past. These 'spectra' change over time.
Nation of Islam would also qualify as 'right-wing' or a 'conservative' movement, though they'd probably not think of themselves as such.
Don't I know it. There's far too large of a pocket like this for those of us who have melanin to spare. Look at the Millions More March from the prior weekend. Those were Nazis with tans.
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You are absolutely correct
It would be people like Ramsey Clarke and MoveOn running the gulags.
LOL! Someone, somewhere has to have a photoshopped image of Farrakhan with a Hilter 'stache and brown shirt.
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I am not sure where you live, but over here is Spokane I almost never see them. I travel to Coeur d’ Alene all the time and never see any there either.
After they ran Richard “Butthead” Butler and his gang of freaks out of Haden Lake, I think the rest went back to where ever the came from. Personally I hope this family stays in Baco, no one wants them here.
If I remember correctly, Hitler took over the fading National Socialist party and kind of turned it into a racial deal that was partly financed by businesses of the day who thought they could control him.
As I said to someone else, when you actually study the pre-Nazi and Nazi eras of Germany, it is NOT a left-wing movement.
Again, there may be mutations of it that one could consider left-wing but it isn't leftist.
The populace who supported the Nazis were lower middle-class, small businesses and militant nationalists. They never established a base of support in the Social Democrat/Communist stronghold of the 'working class.' The Nazis were militantly anti-Bolshevist and viewed it as a Jewish conspiracy. They were also fervently against the Social Democrats, as well. The older nationalist figures and parties supported them or lent financial aid at various times, hoping to use Hitler as a pawn for their own schemes.
They were opposed to 'modern' capitalism but not (ideologically, at least) opposed to the old 'craftsman capitalism' that was fading away under industrialization and mass manufacture.
Nazi ideology was also highly mystical, reliant on pagan notions of an ancient and glorious past, an eschatological vision of a racially-pure future for "aryans." Now Communism is eschatological too, but not all such religions should be considered "leftist."
You must also remember that the Northern Nazis(I think, I might be confusing North/South) were defeated in an internal power play, and they were the more 'socialist' of the Nazi Party.
But as all totalitarians do, they went against their pledges(to a degree) and everyone came to be highly regulated in their daily lives.
Maybe it's best to think of them as a bizarre hybrid of both.
I live in Olympia, Washington...whenever we go up to Seattle to visit our son, we always see groups of Skinheads...whenever we go up to Pike Market, we see them there...
They are around here, thats for sure...
Not really. My feet fit me since I'm 6' 6". If I had size 10 feet, I'd look deformed!
Scratch that. I'm 6' 6" when standing. The problem is that I haven't stood up since the 21st of July.
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I'm proud to be Hutu-Tutsi-Swedish-Cherokee-English-Japanese-Aboriginal-Latino-Neanderthal American.
That's worth being proud of!
I think of any ideology that expands the scope of government as leftist, no matter what the ultimate goal is. By that definition, there are lots of big spenders in the GOP controlled Congress that qualify.
I guess I'm just a right wing extremist! lol
"I'm proud to be Hutu-Tutsi-Swedish-Cherokee-English-Japanese-Aboriginal-Latino-Neanderthal American."
Well, howdy-do to you too, cuz!
I have one child out of seven with red hair. It is a recessive gene!
That's what my dad says all the time now. Since he's now a great-granddad, that means I'm a grand-uncle. Now I feel old, and I'm just 33.
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You know what they say about red heads:
They're either funny or dangerous.
Can't have too many relatives, I always say ... unless they want money!
Yup... And with names like "Lynx" and "Lamb"? If that doesn't just scream "Hottest lesbian incest duo on the Net", then I don't know what would.
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