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Patrick Fitzgerald Nixed Harkin Investigation
NewsMax ^ | 10/22/05 | NewsMax

Posted on 10/22/2005 11:30:15 AM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Show Your Work

As far as the left is concerned, exposing the Klintoons' crimes deserves retribution.


22 posted on 10/22/2005 12:07:07 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
i think all agree. if there was criminal wrongdoing , then go to it. otherwise it will look like a political play. to seriously interrupt an entire sitting administration during wartime and disaster recovery , is a major move. you had better be able to prove your case . these are not the glory days the left pines for. talkers and freepers have changed all that. while it's true mere indictments are all that is necessary to ruin some people , it will be a costly temporary victory.
24 posted on 10/22/2005 12:10:30 PM PDT by fantom
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To: va4me

A better question would be, "So how do you know what Fitzgerald is doing, anyway?"


25 posted on 10/22/2005 12:10:40 PM PDT by Terpfen (Bush is playing chess. Remember that, and stop playing checkers.)
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To: Cicero
Fitzgerald has no record of politically motivated indictments, as is clear from his tenure as US Attorney in Illinois. He appears to be an equal-opportunity prosecutor who has gone after both Republicans at the state level and Democrats in Chicago.

What it looks like to the objective observer is that some folks in the Bush administration are in a serious amount of trouble--most likely because they broke the law.

That may or may not be relevant to the party loyalists on this site.

26 posted on 10/22/2005 12:11:48 PM PDT by independentmind
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To: independentmind
most likely because they broke the law.

What law?

27 posted on 10/22/2005 12:14:28 PM PDT by Getsmart64
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To: Show Your Work

It would have been a lot nicer if Starr could have put one or both of the Klintoons behind bars.


28 posted on 10/22/2005 12:15:12 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
On Sept. 3, 2002, Harkin operatives arranged to secretly tape a strategy meeting by his then-Republican opponent, Rep. Greg Ganske.

Brian Conley, a former aide to the Iowa Democrat, made a digital recording while attending the meeting at the request of Harkin staff member Rafael Ruthchild, according to the Des Moines Register. Conley then returned the recorder to Ruthchild, who provided a copy of the recording and a transcript to a reporter.

The Ganske campaign immediately cried foul and demanded that Polk County Attorney John Sarcone launch a criminal probe. Patrick Fitzgerald, who headed up the U.S. attorney's office in Chicago, also launched an investigation.

Ummmmmm. OK, I'm confused. Who, exactly, was Fitzgerald going to investigate? And for what? Ganske for being dumb enough to invite a Democrat to attend a Republican strategy meeting??? (Stupidity may be against the law in Iowa, but it's clearly not a Federal offense!)

29 posted on 10/22/2005 12:19:45 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: rollo tomasi
If Plame was not a covert agent all Fitzgerald had to do was say no laws were broken and millions of dollars plus people's reputations would have been saved.

Please, don't make sense!!!!

30 posted on 10/22/2005 12:23:38 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: independentmind

Objective, are you....what law??


31 posted on 10/22/2005 12:26:16 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Take the high road. You'll never have to meet a Democrat.)
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To: new yorker 77
Any indictment by some lib prosecutor is an attack on you and I.

I think people are over-reacting. First of all NOBODY KNOWS what this SP is going to do next week. Second, Fitzgerald was appointed by John Ashcroft - who probably dragged his feet on this way too long before recusing himself. The CIA itself (not "rogue elements", but the higher-ups), with Medal of Freedom winner George Tenet himself signing off, brought this case to the JD. So the Bush admin. has only itself to blame if it gets in trouble over THIS.

Whether it's Limbaugh, Delay, Frist, Rove, or Libby, sleazball lib lawyers who threaten witnesses and push to embarrass conservatives in the courts rather than fight in the arena of ideas or at the ballot box, we must stand firm.

True, but I'm afraid any Dem would argue back that the whole 24/7 2-year "all-Monica-all-the-time" fest was a more egregious example. In that case I have to somewhat agree - only because an inept Ken Starr fueled that media circus rather than going after real crimes..

A weird side-note: at least in Limbaugh's case, all of the Left is not disagreeing - the ACLU backed the case against Limbaugh's medical records being open to the prosecutors on violation of privacy grounds.

32 posted on 10/22/2005 12:33:36 PM PDT by podkane
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To: wagglebee

With Earle's assault on DeLay rapidly deteriorating into another Liberal fustercluck, the DNC is counting on Fitzy to come through for them. I expect Martha Stewart style "indictments" to be handed down. "Indictments" charging "crimes" that would not have occurred had the victims not been charged with phony baloney allegations in the first place. It's all the Commie DemocRATS can do.


33 posted on 10/22/2005 12:49:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: rollo tomasi
If Plame was not a covert agent all Fitzgerald had to do was say no laws were broken and millions of dollars plus people's reputations would have been saved.

If Fitzgerald had done that, then there would be cries of "whitewash" and "cover-up"!

I still think there is a pretty good chance that there is going to be an indictment or referral of somebody or something! (The big question is still "who" or "what"!) The Times wouldn't have thrown Miller over the side if they thought she wasn't toxic, and who knows about Libby if he sold his soul to Marc Rich.

And what do you make of Fitzgerald showing classified documents to the grand jury? Geez, if the CIA and the press corps are faxing classified materials to each other all over DC, there's a big, big problem here!

I'd put the chances of anyone being indicted under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 at less than 1%.

Wilson is a demonstrable liar, Miller's claim that she spent 85 days in jail to protect a source whose name she can't remember is laughable, and who knows about Libby.

Can a newspaper be indicted?

I don't think Rove's in danger except for "some BS charge", like forgetting about the Cooper conversation, and it's highly unlikely they can prove that he did that deliberately.

34 posted on 10/22/2005 12:53:18 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: independentmind

Me too! WHAT LAW!!!


35 posted on 10/22/2005 12:55:05 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
Me too! WHAT LAW!!!

Miller -- perjury. Wilson -- perjury. Libby -- perjury. "Flame" & a baker's dozen unnamed spooks at CIA -- Espionage act of 1917. New York Times --- unindicted co-conspitator.

I'd still put the chances of anyone being indicted under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982 at less than 1%.

36 posted on 10/22/2005 1:04:58 PM PDT by Sooth2222
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma; Eric in the Ozarks

The Red Star kept this story on the front page for 3 or 4 days. By the end of the first week, it was all over.


37 posted on 10/22/2005 1:07:24 PM PDT by Iowa Granny (I am not the sharpest pin in the cushion but I can draw blood.)
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To: va4me
I wonder if Fitzgerald realizes he is doing Al Qaeda's handy-work (along with the MSM). How does he sleep at night?

Care to expound upon that? Fitzgerald has put more Al Qaeda in jail than any other federal prosecutor. He prosecuted the blind sheik and his crowd for the first WTC attack, he prosecuted two guys for the attack on the US Cole, and he was investigating a national organization based in Chicago that was funding Al Qaeda (until Judith Miller came along and warned them that search warrants were coming the next morning).

38 posted on 10/22/2005 1:13:01 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Getsmart64
What law?

Since you cant convict them for being stupid, perhaps perjury, false statements to the FBI, subourning perjury, and the kicker, releasing classified information. It depends on what was said by whom and when. It also depends upon whether knowledge of Plames identity as CIA agent came from classified document or not. Ever hear of Watergate? Most of those who went to jail had nothing to do with the breakin.

39 posted on 10/22/2005 1:21:12 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: Sooth2222
Who, exactly, was Fitzgerald going to investigate? And for what? Ganske for being dumb enough to invite a Democrat to attend a Republican strategy meeting??? (Stupidity may be against the law in Iowa, but it's clearly not a Federal offense!)

Anyone ever bother to find out if its against the law to tape a public meeting that you were invited to in Iowa? If it's not, then no law was broken although a good case could be made that there should be a law. My guess and since Im not familiar with the case it's just a guess, is that there was no law that applied to taping where the person taping was invited to the meeting or the meeting was open to the public.

40 posted on 10/22/2005 1:29:08 PM PDT by Dave S
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