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Messianic madness of nuclear Osama
WorlsNetDaily ^ | October 23, 2005 | Farah

Posted on 10/23/2005 3:37:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt

Messianic madness
of nuclear Osama

Heavenly signs, bin Laden's Mahdi complex raise current threat of 'American Hiroshima'


Posted: October 23, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: This exclusive report by Paul Williams first appeared in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin, the premium, online, intelligence newsletter published by the founder of WND. Subscriptions to G2 Bulletin are now available at half price – $99 a year or just $9.95 per month.


© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Signs in the heavens and a popular notion in the Islamic world that Osama bin Laden is the "Mahdi," a long-awaited messianic deliverer, increase this month's risk of mega-terror attacks on the U.S. – including raising the threat of al-Qaida's nuclear "American Hiroshima" plan, says an author and expert in a report released today to WND.

Paul L. Williams, author of "The Al Qaeda Connection" and a former FBI consultant, warns in a report that first appeared in Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin terror attacks on the U.S. before Nov. 2 would have special spiritual significance.

"Islamic clerics point out that the signs in the heavens are propitious for such an event," writes Williams. "This year, Muslims will experience solar and lunar eclipses during the holy month. These great heavenly signs, according to Islamic visionary Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Sahib, foretell the coming of the "Mahdi," the mighty warrior of the Apocalypse, who will defeat the army of Yajuj wa-Majuj ("the infidel unbelievers"), led by the Dabbah or "the Beast." He will lead the Muslims to great victory and bring forth the Day of Islam, when all of creation falls before the throne of Allah."

Millions of Muslims worldwide already regard bin Laden as the "Mahdi," say Williams and other analysts of Islam.

"Islamic tradition says that the Mahdi will be a descendant of Muhammad through his daughter Fatima," writes Williams. "He will have a distinctive forehead, a prominent nose, and a black mole on his face. He will arise from Arabia and will be called from a cave by Allah to serve as the savior of all true believers."

Williams points out bin Laden's followers see significance in his high forehead, the prominent nose, the black mole, his origins in Arabia and his calling from a cave in Afghanistan.

"Bin Laden speaks of the president of the United States as Dabbah, the beast he must slay, and of the American people as the Yajuj wa-Majuj, the nation of Gog that he must destroy," reports Williams. "In his edicts and official correspondence, he no longer signs his name as Osama bin Laden but as Osama bin Muhammad bin Laden."

Is bin Laden the "Mahdi"? Many Muslims think so. And these are prophetically significant times for those who believe. A solar eclipse occurred Oct. 3 and a lunar eclipse followed Oct. 17. This is a unique phenomenon that only occurred once before -- during the Ramadan of 1894. At that time, Muslim scholars said that the next occurrence of twin eclipses will signal the appearance of "the divinely guided one" and the end of human history.

"One Muslim, who views bin Laden as the Mahdi, is Sheikh Nasir bin Hamid al Fahd," explains Williams. "Al Fahd recently issued a religious ruling or fatwa on behalf of the clerics of Saudi Arabia that granted bin Laden and other terrorists the permission to use nuclear weapons against the United States."

In the fatwa, titled "A Treatise on the Legal Status of Using Weapons of Mass Destruction against Infidels," al Fahd ruled that international law should not be taken into consideration while determining if America should be nuked. Islamic law, he says, overrides all man-made laws.

"Al Fahd justifies the mass casualties and destruction that would be caused by the 'American Hiroshima' -- the al Qaida plan to detonate seven tactical nuclear weapons in seven major U.S. cities -- by arguing that an estimate of the number of Muslims killed by Americans would total almost 10 million," writes Williams.

In addition to the Double Occultation of the sun and the moon, many Muslims see other signs that Allah seeks the destruction of the United States, including the devastation wrought by hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

Williams points out that, in a communiqué to bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the top al-Qaida lieutenant in Iraq, mentions the "Great Ramadan Offensive" that will create a "fateful confrontation" with the United States and Israel.

"I think that the plans for the next stage of the jihad has reached you or will reach you in a few days," Zarqawi writes in the letter. "O God, make the plans of Osama come to fruition!"

The communiqué, dated May 30, was intercepted by CIA officials and remains on the Global Information System database that is accessible only to government officials with high-security clearance.

"Most U. S. intelligence officials dismissed Zarqawi's letter as wishful thinking until Ayman al-Zawahiri, bin Laden's second in command, appeared on al-Jazeera, the official television network of Saudi Arabia, to deliver a message to the American people," explains Williams.

In the message, which was broadcast Aug. 8, al-Zawahiri said: "What you have seen, O Americans, in New York and Washington and the losses you are having in Afghanistan and Iraq, in spite of the blackouts by your media, are only the losses of the initial clashes. ... You will soon experience horrors that will make you forget the horrors you have encountered in Vietnam."

The al-Qaida No. 2 man went on to say: "Jihadist forces have been established in all of Western Europe to defend the powerless within the nation. For the crimes that the Crusaders have committed against the Muslims will be reaped by Christians and Jews throughout the Western world."

"Zawahiri's video messages are viewed by intelligence officials as telling signs that a terrorist attack is imminent," says Williams. "His televised message Sept. 6, 2004, took place before the December 6, 2004, bombing of the U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, while his message of June 17, 2005, preceded the London bombings."

Williams says concerns about an October attack were heightened more by reports that jihadists viewed the ravages of hurricanes Katrina and Rita as signs that Allah was pleased with the plans for "the American Hiroshima."

"Allah has punished America with winds and water," one imam is quoted in the GIS report as saying. Another imam reportedly quipped that America, as evidenced by the natural disasters, is "under the curse of the Jews."

Paul Williams is the author of "The Al Qaeda Connection." To read his follow-up on the heightened threat of nuclear terrorism during Ramadan, subscribe to Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Read the entire Paul Williams report here.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 4kooks; alqaedanukes; alqueda; farah; hiroshima; jihadinamerica; nuclear; osama; terror
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All you FR cranks who feel the need to bash everything that Farah puts out, save your energy for checking out the quotes and sources that he cites. We all know that he pushes the envelope, and he says things that nobody else will say- but please, do your job as a good Freeper and research the story before giving us all your 'incredibly valuable' opinion.
1 posted on 10/23/2005 3:37:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: All

Interesting article from the Heritage Foundation.

http://wwwc.house.gov/international_relations/109/coh041405.pdf


2 posted on 10/23/2005 3:46:49 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: ovrtaxt

just $9.95 per month.


3 posted on 10/23/2005 3:48:28 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: ovrtaxt
We know they have the will
to wish us ill,
and more...

Where It's 9-11 All the Time...Click the picture...

In my opinion, we'd be fools not to take this stuff seriously. Don't panic, but don't be blase' about it, either.

4 posted on 10/23/2005 3:50:37 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: ovrtaxt
"Dabbah"

Stupid Muslims can't even spell Dubya.
5 posted on 10/23/2005 3:56:36 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: dennisw; Salem; montag813; sheik yerbouty; backhoe; DB; Alouette; Yehuda; Slings and Arrows

Check out the posts on this forum, particularly the ones from "Raashid".
http://forum.mpacuk.org/archive/index.php/t-1158.html


6 posted on 10/23/2005 3:57:58 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: ovrtaxt
"the "Great Ramadan Offensive" that will create a "fateful confrontation" with the United States and Israel."

The Muslims better hope that this is not true, because any great "fateful confrontation" with the United States and Israel will mean one whole lot of dead Muslims.
7 posted on 10/23/2005 3:58:46 AM PDT by Ninian Dryhope
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To: backhoe

I take the issue seriously, just not Farah. He gets it wrong more than he gets it right.


8 posted on 10/23/2005 4:01:10 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: DB

He's reporting the possibility, and his facts are correct. Like I said, I appreciate his willingness to throw it out there, and I'm sure he hopes he's wrong in this case.


9 posted on 10/23/2005 4:07:51 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

But according to their propaganda, we're slaughtering their populations anyway. Of course Saddam, who killed perhaps millions of Muslims, is a martyr and a victim too.


10 posted on 10/23/2005 4:10:18 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: ovrtaxt
There are plenty of articles right here on FR covering the topic of AlQueda seeking nuclear weapons if anyone is interested. I don't believe it's likely they have one, but the effort is apparent without question. Pakistan has been known to sell plans on nuclear development with buyers that include Iran and papers on weapons programs have turned up in Afghanistan on the nuclear topic.

I doubt that AQ will be able to pull this off exactly on the astrological event, and I don't get very excited whenever I read another "date-theory" plot possibility. However, I think the article reminds us of the important facet that it's only a matter of time, and every liberal is another potential minute wasted.

11 posted on 10/23/2005 4:14:42 AM PDT by Hadean (The NY Times makes for great kindling when burning terrorists.)
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To: Hadean

Agreed, pulling off an attack like this, nukes concurrently detonated in several cities, would be difficult.

Here's some info on the Mahdi:
http://irshad.org/islam/prophecy/mahdi.htm


12 posted on 10/23/2005 4:18:15 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: DB
I take the issue seriously, just not Farah. He gets it wrong more than he gets it right.

Understood.

13 posted on 10/23/2005 4:20:24 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: ovrtaxt
Interesting article from the Heritage Foundation.

All must read this !!!

http://wwwc.house.gov/international_relations/109/coh041405.pdf

14 posted on 10/23/2005 4:20:50 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-ElRushbo quote.)
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To: ovrtaxt
The prophecies concerning this Mahdi are uncomfortably close to those in the Bible re Christ.

Carolyn

15 posted on 10/23/2005 4:22:07 AM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Seems the Sunni and the Shia are still arguing over who/when the Mahdi is to be. The following is an excerpt which would suggest the Lunar and solar eclipse during ramadan are attributed to Ali.


http://www.irshad.org/islam/prophecy/mahdi.htm


The following narration has not been attributed to the Holy Prophet(SAW). It has been identified as false and has been rejected by Muslim scholars for centuries.

Amr son of Shamer quoted Jabir, who quoted Mohammed bin Ali to have said:


For our Mahdi, there are two signs. Since the birth of Universe, these events have never taken place. Those two signs are that there will be Lunar Eclipse on the first night of Ramadhan and Solar Eclipse in the middle of Ramadhan.
(Dar-e-Qatni, Vol. 1, P.188)


Note:

This narration is not attributed to holy Prophet(SAW), but attributed to Mohammed bin Ali. No other person has substantiated this statement attributed to Mohammed bin Ali.
Muslim scholars have always rejected this and other narrations of Amr and Jabir, as both have been known to transmit unreliable and forged narrations.


16 posted on 10/23/2005 4:30:31 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: backhoe

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507615/posts

I just posted this article. There's so much convergent and diverse info, I thought I'd ping you to update any relevant thread roundups you may have going.


17 posted on 10/23/2005 4:33:27 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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In other words, Osama being a Sunni, would hardly act upon the prophecy of Ali, a hated and despised Shia.
Would he?

Oh well. I suppose when it's all said and done, they are all trying to please the same allah.


18 posted on 10/23/2005 4:35:35 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: ovrtaxt
I just posted this article.

Thanks, I had not seen it yet- looking now...

19 posted on 10/23/2005 4:35:47 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Fred Nerks

That's interesting. You study Islam quite a bit I take it? Check out the article I just linked above in post 17 and let me know what you think.


20 posted on 10/23/2005 4:36:22 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: ovrtaxt

that link doesn't work for me.


21 posted on 10/23/2005 4:50:54 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507615/posts


22 posted on 10/23/2005 4:52:58 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: ovrtaxt

Check out the posts on this forum, particularly the ones from "Raashid".
http://forum.mpacuk.org/archive/index.php/t-1158.html

I MEANT THE ONE ABOVE.


23 posted on 10/23/2005 4:55:48 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: ovrtaxt

I skimmed your other post and plan to read it again in the morning, it's 10pm in Australia and I am going to hit the hay.


24 posted on 10/23/2005 4:59:32 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

There it is in a nutshell.

Evil.

It is going to get far worse before it gets better.


25 posted on 10/23/2005 5:08:12 AM PDT by DB ()
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To: CDHart

The prophecies concerning this Mahdi are uncomfortably close to those in the Bible re Christ.

That is because Islam is a false religion originated by a false prophet that we were warned about in the bible.


26 posted on 10/23/2005 5:22:35 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: ovrtaxt

bump for later.


27 posted on 10/23/2005 5:27:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Protest a dem -- light your hair on fire -- and the MSM still won't take your picture.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

The .pdf Heritage foundation article is interesting, although I question the recommendations. Encouraging our government towards 'deep on-site penetration of terrorist organizations', merely provides a control linkage to enemies of the Constitution that is only as safe as those who control those links. When placed in an occultic, hidden, black program, we merely expose ourselves to attack from domestic enemies of the Constitution, many of whom already are led into governmental positions. IOW, I wouldn't feel more safe if Hillary Clinton was in charge of a terrorist organization, than if Osama bin Laden operated it. Arguably, I would find us less secure.


28 posted on 10/23/2005 6:06:13 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: ovrtaxt
I'm not sure I buy EVERYTHING Farah has to say, but he's on pretty safe grounds hypothesizing that Osauma is a self-absorbed moon bat who wants to pop a nuke on someone just to show off. That's common knowledge, or it would be if so many people didn't rely on CNN or The New York Times for their information.
29 posted on 10/23/2005 6:07:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Because change is not something you talk into existence.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Didn't I hear about the dual lunar eclipses during Ramadan two years ago as being the same sort of "unique event" proclaiming the Mahdi?
30 posted on 10/23/2005 6:14:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Maybe a single eclipse?

Check this out. This site is into astronomy as it relates to Islam.

http://moonsighting.com/2eclipses.html


31 posted on 10/23/2005 6:23:05 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: ovrtaxt
"Allah has punished America with winds and water," one imam is quoted in the GIS report as saying. Another imam reportedly quipped that America, as evidenced by the natural disasters, is "under the curse of the Jews."

So what does that make the Tsunami and the Punjabi earthquake? Allah must be extremely PO'd at the teaching of all those Jihadie indoctrination centers there.

I guess Allah is also hacked off at the Mexicans?

32 posted on 10/23/2005 6:33:20 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: El Gato

Allah is generally POd at everybody I guess, if natural disasters are an indicator of his mood.

I guess Allah really digs Tahiti- they have great weather!


33 posted on 10/23/2005 6:38:29 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: backhoe

Wrong!


34 posted on 10/23/2005 6:40:53 AM PDT by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13)
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To: ovrtaxt
I am finding general agreement that there was a lunar eclipse in 1981 (Hijri 1401) on the 15th day of Ramadan, and a solar eclipse on the 29th day of the month. There was a "second" lunar eclipse in 1982 (Hijri 1402) on the 14th day of Ramadan, and a solar eclipse on the 28th day of the month.

I have seen some references to the two lunar eclipses during Ramadan in 2003 to which I had referred.

There is a lot of discussion about how it is predicted that there are to be BOTH two solar and two lunar eclipses during Ramadan and that this is physically impossible.

IOW, these guys are grabbing at what they can find and can't resolve conflicting prophecies, such as one can find here.

35 posted on 10/23/2005 6:44:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: CDHart
The prophecies concerning this Mahdi are uncomfortably close to those in the Bible re Christ.

The Muslims are "People of the Book", Same as the Jews and Christians. "The Book" being a version of the Old Testament. Mohammad was a terrible plagersit, as well as pedophile. He stole lots from the New Testament, and even the Talmud.

36 posted on 10/23/2005 6:44:45 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Carry_Okie

Cool website. -bookmark-


37 posted on 10/23/2005 6:51:12 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: ovrtaxt
When one basis one's religious beliefs on the blathering of the demoniacally possessed (by their works you will know them)
one must expect anti-savior version to be in the same
vein as the other prophet...

Murder, rape, lying,theft,the using of one's own children as bombs to kill other's, and exporting of wholesale terrorism are not the attributes of the God of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob or His
Son Jesus Christ.

The truth is the truth even if no one believes it..
and a lie is a lie..even if everyone believes it.

imo
38 posted on 10/23/2005 6:52:58 AM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: ovrtaxt

I hope AQ and other towelheads waste their time and money trying to make a nuclear weapon. They won't succeed. I imagine that 99.99999% of the people who claim they can supply or want to buy nukes are CIA agents. Even a dirty bomb would only succeed if their accomplices/useful idiots in the media trump up the effects.

If AQ focusses their energy on weapons, they won't go after the low hanging terrorist fruits: daycare hostage scenarios, RPG attacks in major cities, general mayhem, etc. These are their real tools for creating chaos here.


39 posted on 10/23/2005 7:01:28 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: ovrtaxt; All

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Now more than ever...
we must hold accountable a...

BILL CLINTON who refused 3 offers from the Sudan during the 1990's to give us OSAMA bin LADEN on a silver platter before he could hit us real hard here at home...

...and then harder still later on down the line..!!!


Signed:.."ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer
Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965

http://www.lzxray.com/guyer_set1.htm

.



40 posted on 10/23/2005 7:12:42 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ovrtaxt; All

.



What Price FREEDOM..?

Last time around it was:


911 Lifesaving Hero RICK RESCORLA

http://www.RickRescorla.com

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24361



.


41 posted on 10/23/2005 7:15:32 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ovrtaxt

Perhaps the sight of nubile young virgins quelled his anger!


42 posted on 10/23/2005 7:17:53 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: ovrtaxt

And I cannot believe there are some Democrats who STILL want to devote every ounce of energy to fighting the White House over EVERYTHING instead of concentrating on defeating terrorism! Argh!


43 posted on 10/23/2005 7:27:43 AM PDT by rjp2005
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To: Ninian Dryhope
"Dabbah" Stupid Muslims can't even spell Dubya.

I was thinking the same thing. I think it would be a psych-war event if Dubya was seen on global TV holding aloft the head of their dead Mahdi

44 posted on 10/23/2005 7:36:01 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: CDHart
The prophecies concerning this Mahdi are uncomfortably close to those in the Bible re Christ.

Keep in mind that Mohammod (piss be upon him) lived 600 years AFTER Christ, and plagerized heavily from the Old and New Testaments to create the Qu'ran and other writings.

OF COURSE Muslim legend would steal heavily from Revelations

46 posted on 10/23/2005 7:49:05 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

I believe Kitchner did exactlly that to the original Mahdi after the battle of Khartoum. That put the fear of God not Allah into the Mahdi's followers!


47 posted on 10/23/2005 7:55:23 AM PDT by ABN 505
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To: Carry_Okie

Exactly. While the premise of radical islam engaging in a nuclear sneak atack is entirely accurate, the story is old. Type double eclipse ramadan in Google and you can read the stuff about it. happened 2 years ago and nothing unusual occurred.

I believe some people worship the moon because moonlight was/is a natural tactical consideration for warfare in the expansive nomadic regions of sub-asia. Marauding is a way of life and owning the night in defense of your territory key to survival. It's hard to hide on a treeless expanse.

Eclipses are considered a sign probably because the idea of the light being blocked out, especially moonlight, would be the ultimate cover for a sneak attack. Who knows. I know I wouldn't pay to read this.


48 posted on 10/23/2005 8:00:46 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Fred Nerks
Those two signs are that there will be Lunar Eclipse on the first night of Ramadhan and Solar Eclipse in the middle of Ramadhan

I don't know when Mohammed bin Ali lived, but I do know that Mohammad (the prophet) had no understanding whatsoever of the solar system or the concept of an eclipse. His explanation of where the sun goes at night resembles the imagination of a five year old. (It hides in a swamp until Allah makes it rise again in the morning, or some similar nonsense).

49 posted on 10/23/2005 8:10:23 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: kinghorse
There are crazy people who want to kill us. They have money. Our ability to defend ourselves depends upon our preparation and our ability to sustain a fight. That is where our focus should lie.

Instead of worrying about new moons, spend that time assuring that you have some potassium idiodide, adequate food for several months and a source of potable water. Bitch to Congress about an open border. Buy ammo and practice. Etc.

50 posted on 10/23/2005 8:13:22 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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