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Burning Taliban
Euphoric Reality ^ | 10/22/05 | Redhead Infidel

Posted on 10/23/2005 5:28:11 AM PDT by American Cabalist

If this situation goes any further at all, I feel a war comin' on (Pantano style)...

Report Of U.S. Burning Bodies Investigated

The U.S. military said such abuse would be "repugnant," and the State Department said U.S. embassies around the world have been told to counter a potential backlash by telling local governments that the alleged actions do not reflect American values.

The Australian photojournalist, Stephen Dupont, who shot the video footage that is now being splashed around the globe as 'evidence' of American atrocities, has been VERY clear that the burning of the bodies was done for hygiene purposes, and not as a deliberate atrocity. He goes on to add that psy-ops then saw an opportunity to send a message to the Taliban to try and "smoke them out" and provoke them to fight the Airborne troops. Dupont's account is very different from what ended up as the SBS Dateline segment. Anti-US activist/journalist John Martinkus' report is highly skewed. Here's an excerpt of Martinkus' Dateline report:

"At the top of the hills above the village the soldiers have taken the tactics of psychological warfare to a grotesque and disturbing extreme. US soldiers have set fire to the bodies of the two Taliban killed the night before. The burning of the corpses and the fact that they've been laid out facing Mecca is a deliberate desecration of Muslim beliefs."

What follows at Euphoric Reality: video footage as recorded by the Australian camera crew, photos, video of interview with Stephen Dupont, links to audio clips, video of the Muslim spin, transcripts, compilation of current headlines on the subject, round-up of bloggers opinions (with links), etc. All wrapped up in scathing commentary.

(Excerpt) Read more at euphoricreality.net ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; desecration; oef; taliban

1 posted on 10/23/2005 5:28:11 AM PDT by American Cabalist
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To: American Cabalist
The Australian photojournalist, Stephen Dupont, who shot the video footage that is now being splashed around the globe as 'evidence' of American atrocities, has been VERY clear that the burning of the bodies was done for hygiene purposes, and not as a deliberate atrocity.

If he had any clue about the MSM he would have known that no matter what he said, his video footage was going to be used to make american servicemen look bad. At some point there is nothing wrong with the military telling journalists, "you may not film this."

2 posted on 10/23/2005 5:34:01 AM PDT by Casloy
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To: American Cabalist
Please keep in mind that MSNBC, SBS, and other news companies have removed this video for sensitivity reasons. BKP remains a source of uncensored new information. BKP beat Drudge, CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and any other blog to this story.
Video Shows American Forces Burning Dead Taliban

More footage of the incident here.

 http://bareknucklepolitics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=97#97
3 posted on 10/23/2005 5:35:43 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: sure_fine

hmmmmmmm, but more importantly what direction were the bodies of the americans burned by muslims in bagdad facing? and per chance does anyone know what direction they were facing when they were strung up on that bridge? excellent job to the americans who know how to play this game, ie the special forces guys with matches, if thats what it takes. besides last time i checked, dead people dont know they are being burned.


4 posted on 10/23/2005 5:42:53 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: American Cabalist
I don't care why these bodies were burned. These few soldiers should have known better, especially with a journalist roaming about. This film will be exploited by insurgents, Al Qaeda, Ted Kennedy and the MSM to make all of our soldiers look bad.
5 posted on 10/23/2005 5:45:26 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: American Cabalist

Personally, I think they should haev filmed these soldiiers sprinkling a bag of pork rinds on these bodies while they burned just to show other terrorists what they can look forward to if they want to attack US troops.


6 posted on 10/23/2005 5:50:13 AM PDT by Buffettfan (http://www.swiftvets.com)
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To: American Cabalist

My only regret is they were not burned after being splashed with the blood of pigs.


7 posted on 10/23/2005 5:54:07 AM PDT by stockpirate (John Kerry & FBI files ==> http://www.freerepublic.com/~stockpirate/)
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To: Buffettfan

Agreed.
My only gripe is that they didn't burn them while they were still alive. Where is the muslim outrage over all the beheadings of innocents the past few years? Remember the "sawing off of heads?" That was just beyond horrifying. Until I see genuine sorrow for those actions, my apathy for the burning of their sorry corpses will continue. They deserve worse.


8 posted on 10/23/2005 5:54:26 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: American Cabalist
I love the smell of burnt taliban in the morning...kinda reminds me french toast...I mean freedom toast!
9 posted on 10/23/2005 5:56:34 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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To: son of caesar
Here is an supportive comment on "Euphoric Reality" from an apparent muslim...

Now to counter that crap, here’s a response to the above propaganda from a man named Ahmed:

"The Taleban and their allies are quite happy to murder imans, to blow up mosques, and to car-bomb “fellow” muslims."

"Yet when one fraction of their irreligousness and brutality is returned, they and their supporters yelp like beaten dogs."

"No wonder that Islamism has brought into disrepute. It is the refuge of the weak, the cowardly and unmanly. The Taleban are only brave when they are murdering old men or beating women."

10 posted on 10/23/2005 5:58:26 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: American Cabalist
What enrages me is that just this morning I posted an article on a US civilian (contractor) being burned alive by a mob in Iraq. Burned ALIVE. Kids fed the flames with straw as the guy was screaming. Absolutely NO OUTRAGE here from the MSM. Zip. Nothing. Some asshat DUmmie event went so far to say "Oh well, these things happen".
11 posted on 10/23/2005 6:08:13 AM PDT by Hadean (The NY Times makes for great kindling when burning terrorists.)
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To: Hadean

We need to figure a way to liquify the bodies of the dead Taliban and burn them in our diesel engines.

Real Biodiesel that helps cleanse the environment.


12 posted on 10/23/2005 6:21:32 AM PDT by 308MBR (Walnut stocks with steel buttplates are pretty effective in close quarters.)
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To: American Cabalist
Wow, even Time did not try to spin it that bad!

"There simply wasn't enough room on the rocky hilltop above Gonbaz village in southern Afghanistan for the U.S. platoon and the corpses of the two Taliban fighters. The Taliban men had been killed in a firefight 24 hours earlier, and in the 90 degree heat, their bodies had become an unbearable presence, soldiers who were present have told TIME."
13 posted on 10/23/2005 6:32:08 AM PDT by msg-84
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To: msg-84
A statement from the U.S. military command for Afghanistan said, "Under no circumstances does U.S. Central Command condone the desecration, abuse or inappropriate treatment of enemy combatants."

Weenies. Pray for Lt. Nelson. :-(

14 posted on 10/23/2005 6:56:57 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Yarn-ho.)
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To: Casloy

Actually I heard an interview with him yesterday. He said that he figured nothing bad was going on because he wasn't told not to film it.


15 posted on 10/23/2005 6:57:52 AM PDT by whershey
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To: Casloy

It wouldn't have mattered bcause even if he only wrote about the TSM would still gleefully turn it into an anti-America, hate America, America bad hit piece. The solution? Make the journalists in the field follow the old WWII rules, ALL of THEM.


16 posted on 10/23/2005 7:02:36 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Hadean
Yeah, I posted on it too, once I could see my keyboard through the red haze of rage. U.S. Civilian Contractors: 4 Killed, 1 BURNED ALIVE By Sunni Muslims
17 posted on 10/23/2005 7:05:37 AM PDT by American Cabalist
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To: sure_fine
Yeah, all those links are included, plus many more in the original Euphoric Reality article. (BNK is the only place that's got the video footage, that I know of.)
18 posted on 10/23/2005 7:07:23 AM PDT by American Cabalist
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To: American Cabalist
We should not allow foreign Journalist to be embedded with American Troops. Hate plays just as well abroad in the MSM as as it does in the US.
19 posted on 10/23/2005 7:09:37 AM PDT by Garvin (Will the last American to leave Massachusetts please bring the Flag out with You!)
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To: American Cabalist

Actually, I believe the Islamic custom is to booby trap the dead and leave them for the infidels (?) (humor)


20 posted on 10/23/2005 7:17:39 AM PDT by Spok (Est omnis de civilitate.)
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To: 308MBR

Sniff, Sniff. Smells like Bacon. Who's cookin' bacon?


21 posted on 10/23/2005 7:20:29 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: manwiththehands
"I don't care why these bodies were burned."

My sentiments exactly. Who cares, WHO CARES? So they ran out of military issue pigskin burial shrouds? So what?
22 posted on 10/23/2005 7:39:56 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: American Cabalist
Once again the military "leadership" can't seem to deal with a situation on the battlefields of Afghanistan.

If a platoon comes across a bunch of dead Taliban or makes them dead and then burns the bodies, should that be a problem to the military commanders? Does it do damage to the American soldiers or put them at more risk to show them taunting the enemy to come out and fight.

Ok, I know, its not Marquis of Queensbury rules and all that. Mustn't take advantage when you've got them down, you know.

Somebody should tell these politically correct morons that we are fighting a war--and if they want to win that war, they better get down and dirty. The commander's job is to save as many American lives as possible while killing the enemy. The enemy knows what this war is about and if they had the power and control that we have, they would not hesitate brutally murder every American they could. Then they would desecrate the flag, insult our heritage, and spit on our religious beliefs. Then they would come over here and tell us how to live our lives, just like they did in Afghanistan for many years. So, we better win and, in the process, we better be sure that they know that if the ones who are left ever try this again, they are going to be scrubbed off the Earth.

Psychological warfare has been around as long as warfare. Julius Caesar never lost a battle because he scared the hell out of a bunch of guys who didn't scare easily. We are also fighting a bunch of guys who don't scare easily, and we trying to do it with civilized decor. They already don't like us. We are not going to win them over by being nice or trying to not step on their beliefs. If you want to stop their recruitment, fear is our best weapon. Make them know that they are going to die, and that we are going to be relentless until they do just that.

Go into the history books and study any successful military commander in history. The first thing that you will notice is that once he gained an advantage, he assaulted the enemy without quarter until they were reduced to Jell-O. If they believe they have a chance of winning--they do.

There is a big difference between being evil and being tough. We need a few generals who know the difference.
23 posted on 10/23/2005 11:31:13 PM PDT by injin
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To: American Cabalist

Was it believed that the bodies were infected with some biological warfare microbe? I don't understand why they weren't wrapped in 5 mil garbage bags and sent back home.


24 posted on 10/23/2005 11:34:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: whershey

Whershey - do you remember where you heard that interview with LT Nelson? I'd like to track it down.

After the initial flurry of stories about it I haven't heard anything since.


25 posted on 10/25/2005 4:13:43 AM PDT by American Cabalist
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