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Snell worked for Zelikow, not Gorelick
TOPDOG08 ^ | 10/23/05 | Mike

Posted on 10/23/2005 1:12:49 PM PDT by vadkins

Did Snell debrief Phillpott? Yes. Was he working for Jamie Gorelick? No. Not any more than he was working for Slade Gordon or any other member of the Commission, as opposed to the Commission staff. He was working for Philip Zelikow, the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission staff who hired him as Senior Counsel.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abledanger; atta; curtweldon; dhpl; dia; gorelick; gorelickwall; military; mohammadatta; pentagon; rush; rushlimbaugh; shaffer; talkradio; weldon
This muddies the waters and conflicts with Rep. Weldon's statement that Snell worked for Gorelick.
1 posted on 10/23/2005 1:12:50 PM PDT by vadkins
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To: vadkins
I'm taking a wait-and-see on this. Such a detail should be independently verified.
2 posted on 10/23/2005 1:13:54 PM PDT by Prime Choice (E=mc^3. Don't drink and derive.)
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To: vadkins

CYA in full-blown action.


3 posted on 10/23/2005 1:15:49 PM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA and SAS) 2005 WI PPA/CCW Ping List ~Contact me if you want on/off the ping list~)
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To: vadkins
It doesn't make a damn bit of difference, because in all probability Gorelick knew about Able Danger. And she certainly was the reason that the FBI did not know about Able Danger.

Moreover, BJ Klintoon and Sandy the Burglar for certain knew about Able Danger, yet failed to inform the commission. They omitted this because, (and this is just my opinion) the believed that Sandy the Burglar had removed any mention of Able Danger from the National Archives.

What we are seeing here is a smokescreen to try to distract attention from the fact that Able Danger could have quite probably prevented 9/11. The Clintonistas knew all about Able Danger, yet they ignored it AND prevented the FBI from benefitting from the intelligence.

4 posted on 10/23/2005 1:20:36 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: vadkins

Worked for? How about answered to? I'd say the jury's still out.


5 posted on 10/23/2005 1:22:42 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: vadkins
Philip Zelikow was brought into government (STATE) under Carter and seems to be an Israel hater.

"Why would Iraq attack America or use nuclear weapons against us? I'll tell you what I think the real threat [is] and actually has been since 1990 -- it's the threat against Israel."

6 posted on 10/23/2005 1:23:24 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: wagglebee

I'd like to know how Snell came to be working for Eliot Spitzer.


7 posted on 10/23/2005 1:23:44 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: vadkins

Very interesting.


8 posted on 10/23/2005 1:24:29 PM PDT by beyond the sea (Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
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To: vadkins

He was assistant U.S. Attorney under Reno. Perhaps Weldon meant his former position during the Clinton Admin? Would that have made him a subordinate to Gorelick, since she pretty much ran the Dept. of Justice?

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/postelection.html

Go there and text search for Snell. Here's what you will get:

The 9/11 Commission's Prolongation of Earlier Cover-Ups

But Philip Zelikow, Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission, shocked Lance with the news that his information would be taken privately by Commission team leader Dietrich Snell. For in 1996, when he was Assistant U.S. Attorney, Snell himself had helped to prosecute Yousef in the Bojinka trial, in a way that systematically excluded not only Scarpa's testimony but all reference to both KSM and Bojinka II.

As Lance wrote later in Cover Up,

Under objective circumstances, Snell would have made an important witness before the Commission. But in the heavily conflicted world of the Commission staff, he was hired to be one of its senior attorneys and team leaders. [37]

The cover-up Lance wished to discuss with Snell was not over.

[The Commission's] Staff Statement No. 16, co-written by Dietrich Snell, concluded that KSM didn't begin planning the 9/11 attacks until 1996. There was no mention of Yousef's involvement in the plot. . . . If this take on the story were true, it would let the Justice Department and the FBI off the hook for ignoring the evidence presented to them . . . in 1995 -- evidence showing that Yousef and KSM . . . were planning to hijack airliners and fly them into six U.S. buildings . . . including the WTC. [38]


9 posted on 10/23/2005 1:27:59 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (You nonconformists are all the same.)
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To: vadkins

...depends on who's stirring up the mud


Doogle


10 posted on 10/23/2005 1:29:39 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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To: wagglebee

> What we are seeing here is a smokescreen to try to
> distract attention from the fact that Able Danger
> could have quite probably prevented 9/11.

That's why the Bush Admin isn't lifting the cover-up.

The Clinton Admin is even more worried about people
discovering WHY the Gorelick Wall was built in the
first place. Hint: it wasn't to enable domestic
terrorism (that was just an unfortunate cost of doing
business the Clinton way).


11 posted on 10/23/2005 1:32:20 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Boundless

There are a lot of dirty hands on both sides of the aisle and as a whole they're hoping that a partisan population will point fingers at the other side so nothing will get done.


12 posted on 10/23/2005 1:35:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: vadkins

Something else is odd on the comment section of this site: http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/817

"Recently I was reading a few of the AD blog sites with comments and noticed that someone mentioned that whenever they post AD news, their blog site is hit with Chinese bots for days. I would suggest everyone with a blog site to monitor this closely."

Left by LuckyBogey on October 23rd, 2005


13 posted on 10/23/2005 1:48:44 PM PDT by Thumbellina (As I recall, Kerry referred to terrorism as "overrated".)
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To: cripplecreek
"There are a lot of dirty hands on both sides of the aisle and as a whole they're hoping that a partisan
population will point fingers at the other side so nothing will get done."

Somewhere in those 900 FBI files they have something on Gober Bush. Something so big that they can make him cover Clinton's butt and sellout the American people. Something bigger than the 3000 lives lost as collateral damage for Clinton's damage control over Chinese campaign contributions and transfer of our nuclear technology. Something so big that he cowers to Vicente Fox over immigration reform. Something that makes him fear a democratic minority in congress and the senate. What could it be? Or maybe he's just a wimp.
14 posted on 10/23/2005 2:04:50 PM PDT by PositiveCogins
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To: PositiveCogins

I doubt that. Ma Richards would have used it in the Gov. race.


15 posted on 10/23/2005 2:24:42 PM PDT by BARLF
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To: vadkins

He worked for Gorelick earlier, I believe. And I'll bet the recommendation to hire him for the Commission came from Gore-lick.


17 posted on 10/23/2005 2:54:57 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Boundless

My take is Able Danger was doing things that would get the DOD in deep doo-doo. Maybe goes back to some of the scuff-up over the Poindexter project?


18 posted on 10/23/2005 3:17:00 PM PDT by Paraclete
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To: Paraclete

Dieter Snell, hmmmmmm, sounds like a little blue eyed clone created by dr. mengela for der furry-her, the cloven footed one, semi-married to the cigar wielding, sink using, disgrace of a pervert that abused a 21 year old intern. Gore-lick, klintoon-lick, boot-lick, what's the difference? These low life scum that corrupted our Country for 8 years continue to pervert the process long after they have left office. I need to go shower.


19 posted on 10/23/2005 3:38:42 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: ncountylee

Wikipedia states that Zelidow was brought into government by Reagan (not Carter)-which is it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_D._Zelikow

Zelikow practiced law in the early 1980s, but he turned toward the field of national security in the mid 1980s. He was adjunct professor of national security affairs at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California in 1984-1985, and served in three different offices of the U.S. Department of State in the second Reagan administration.

Zelikow joined the National Security Council in the George Herbert Walker Bush administration, at the same time as Condoleezza Rice. Zelikow left the NSC in 1991 and went to Harvard, where from 1991 to 1998 he was Associate Professor of Public Policy and co-director of Harvard's Intelligence and Policy Program.

In 1998 Zelikow moved to the University of Virginia, where he directs the nation's largest center on the American presidency, serves as director of the Miller Center of Public Affairs and, as White Burkett Miller Professor of History, holds an endowed chair.

Philip Zelikow has co-authored many books. He wrote a book with Ernest May on The Kennedy Tapes, and another with Joseph Nye and David King on Why People Don't Trust Government. He wrote Germany Unified and Europe Transformed with Condoleezza Rice.

Prof. Zelikow's area of academic expertise is the creation and maintenance of, in his words, "public myths" or "public presumptions," which he defines as "beliefs (1) thought to be true (although not necessarily known to be true with certainty), and (2) shared in common within the relevant political community." In his academic work and elsewhere he has taken a special interest in what he has called "'searing' or 'molding' events [that] take on 'transcendent' importance and, therefore, retain their power even as the experiencing generation passes from the scene. In the United States, beliefs about the formation of the nation and the Constitution remain powerful today, as do beliefs about slavery and the Civil War. World War II, Vietnam, and the civil rights struggle are more recent examples." He has noted that "a history's narrative power is typically linked to how readers relate to the actions of individuals in the history; if readers cannot make a connection to their own lives, then a history may fail to engage them at all" ("Thinking about Political History," Miller Center Report [Winter 1999], pp. 5-7)


20 posted on 10/23/2005 3:49:01 PM PDT by vadkins
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To: vadkins

Thanks, my bad.


21 posted on 10/23/2005 3:52:42 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: vadkins

"Did Snell debrief Phillpott? Yes. Was he working for Jamie Gorelick? No. Not any more than he was working for Slade Gordon or any other member of the Commission, as opposed to the Commission staff. He was working for Philip Zelikow, the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission staff who hired him as Senior Counsel."

Tempest in a teapot. Weldon got one fact wrong. A not very important fact, as I see it.


22 posted on 10/23/2005 5:27:08 PM PDT by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: Thumbellina


""Recently I was reading a few of the AD blog sites with comments and noticed that someone mentioned that whenever they post AD news, their blog site is hit with Chinese bots for days."

#$%*&^% Chinese...Trying to cover their butts, maybe intimidate people.


23 posted on 10/23/2005 5:29:15 PM PDT by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: PositiveCogins

"Something so big that they can make him cover Clinton's butt and sellout the American people."

Maybe. Or maybe Bush just made a mistake before 9/11 that he does not want to come out.


24 posted on 10/23/2005 5:30:13 PM PDT by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: vadkins

I do not trust anybody associated with the 9/11 Commission.
That commission needs a full and thorough anal exam.


25 posted on 10/23/2005 5:33:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard
That commission needs a full and thorough anal exam.

And then some.......

26 posted on 10/23/2005 5:44:20 PM PDT by b4its2late (I saw a woman wearing a sweat shirt with "Guess" on it. So I said "Implants?" She hit me.)
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To: vadkins

Oh.... the webs they weave......


27 posted on 10/23/2005 5:47:11 PM PDT by b4its2late (I saw a woman wearing a sweat shirt with "Guess" on it. So I said "Implants?" She hit me.)
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To: Prime Choice
I'm taking a wait-and-see on this. Such a detail should be independently verified.

agree...So/Too much spinnin' goin' on. :P

28 posted on 10/23/2005 5:55:31 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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