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What is the Formula Used to Kill Termites in the 60's and Now Banned by the EPA?
October 24, 2005 | Self

Posted on 10/24/2005 2:22:11 PM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker

A friend has asked me to ask you all to "find information on the old formula which was used back in the 60’s for treating a house for termites etc. which the environmentalists stopped the pest control people from using ……………. It had diazamine or something like that in it…….2 chemicals is all it was…"

Anyone know anything about this that can help?

Thank you in advance.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: environmentalists; epa; help; pesticides; pests; termites
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Thanks again!
1 posted on 10/24/2005 2:22:11 PM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Chlordane


2 posted on 10/24/2005 2:24:02 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker
....hey hear about the termite who walks into a bar and says,"hey bartender,is this bar tender?"


Doogle
3 posted on 10/24/2005 2:24:23 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker
What is the Formula Used to Kill Termites in the 60's and Now Banned by the EPA?

Secret Ingredient AK-47:

4 posted on 10/24/2005 2:24:37 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Napalm? Agent Orange?


5 posted on 10/24/2005 2:24:41 PM PDT by zencat (The universe is not what it appears, nor is it something else.)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

THE HAMMER


6 posted on 10/24/2005 2:24:52 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

If I recall correctly, it was Chlordane.


7 posted on 10/24/2005 2:25:08 PM PDT by erswts (If there are no dogs in Heaven, there is no Heaven)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Ask Jeeves


8 posted on 10/24/2005 2:25:29 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Mount Athos

What are the two chemicals used to make that? Do you know?


9 posted on 10/24/2005 2:25:53 PM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Chloradane is correct.

There is a newish product called "Termador," which is (finally!) equally as effective, if not more so.


10 posted on 10/24/2005 2:26:37 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

How about Chlor and Dane. Actually dont know. Try google


11 posted on 10/24/2005 2:26:56 PM PDT by erswts (If there are no dogs in Heaven, there is no Heaven)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Dichloro-diphenyl-trichloroethane (DDT)


12 posted on 10/24/2005 2:26:57 PM PDT by GunnyHartman (Allah is allah outta virgins.)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

13 posted on 10/24/2005 2:27:01 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: erswts

What are the two chemicals used to make that? Do you know?


14 posted on 10/24/2005 2:27:15 PM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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To: Mount Athos

http://envirocancer.cornell.edu/factsheet/Pesticide/fs11.chlordane.cfm


15 posted on 10/24/2005 2:27:27 PM PDT by tumblindice
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

16 posted on 10/24/2005 2:27:29 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker
You are probably thinking of diazinon that was only recently banned for household use, I believe. It was great stuff. I once accidentally spilled some in a flower garden and the worms were literally leaping out of the ground.

Tell your friend that a strong solution of biphenthrin works really well.

17 posted on 10/24/2005 2:27:33 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Try DDT.


18 posted on 10/24/2005 2:27:37 PM PDT by Reaganghost (Democrats are living proof that you can fool some of the people all of the time.)
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To: zencat
Agent Orange?

Similar. :)

The first answer, Chlordane was correct. I used it for preventative treatement around the foundation, and not just for termites. It was effective for all sorts of creepy crawlies.

19 posted on 10/24/2005 2:29:00 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/toxprofiles/phs31.html

1.1 What is chlordane?

Chlordane is a man-made chemical that was used as a pesticide in the United States from 1948 to 1988. It is sometimes referred to by the trade names Octachlor® and Velsicol 1068®. It is a thick liquid whose color ranges from colorless to amber, depending on its purity. It may have no smell or a mild, irritating smell. We do not know what it tastes like. Chlordane is not a single chemical, but is a mixture of many related chemicals, of which about 10 are major components. Some of the major components are trans-chlordane, cis-chlordane, beta-chlordene, heptachlor, and trans-nonachlor. Chlordane does not dissolve in water. Therefore, before it can be used as a spray, it must be placed in water with emulsifiers (soap-like substances), which results in a milky-looking mixture.

From 1983 until 1988, chlordane's only approved use was to control termites in homes. The pesticide was applied underground around the foundation of homes. When chlordane is used in the soil around a house, it kills termites that come into contact with it.

Before 1978, chlordane was also used as a pesticide on agricultural crops, lawns, and gardens and as a fumigating agent. Because of concerns over cancer risk, evidence of human exposure and build up in body fat, persistence in the environment, and danger to wildlife, the EPA canceled the use of chlordane on food crops and phased out other above-ground uses over the next 5 years. In 1988, when the EPA canceled chlordane's use for controlling termites, all approved use of chlordane in the United States stopped. Manufacture for export continues.

20 posted on 10/24/2005 2:29:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl (CA Special Election: Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No, No!)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

kills bugs dead

21 posted on 10/24/2005 2:30:33 PM PDT by smonk
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Ask Tom Delay.


22 posted on 10/24/2005 2:30:41 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: GunnyHartman

That's for (or, rather, against) mosquitos.


23 posted on 10/24/2005 2:30:42 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Well, of course!!! You need the AK to drill the holes to pour down the Chlordane.....totally logical.....


24 posted on 10/24/2005 2:31:08 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: calcowgirl
We do not know what it tastes like

LOL

25 posted on 10/24/2005 2:31:24 PM PDT by OSHA (I've got a hole in my head too, but that's beside the point.)
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To: Mount Athos

"DING DING DING! What do we have for her, Johnny?"

26 posted on 10/24/2005 2:32:42 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Innocence seldom utters outraged shrieks. Guilt does." Whittaker Chambers)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Napalm?...


27 posted on 10/24/2005 2:33:08 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Chlordane


28 posted on 10/24/2005 2:33:14 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Tagline Repair Service. Let us fix those broken Taglines. Inquire within(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker
I think Chlordane is correct.

My father spent a large part of his career evaluating death claims for Metropolitan Life Insurance. He was constantly warning us about the billions of stupid ways you could kill yourself or somebody else, because he had seen it all.

There was this woman, obviously not too bright, who kept her termite poison in an old whiskey bottle. One night, she had guests in her home, one of whom found the deadly whiskey bottle when she wasn't looking.

He opened the bottle, said to the other guests, "Cheers" and took a big swig from the bottle and swallowed.

He grimaced, look at the hostess and said, "What did I just drink?!" then dropped to the floor, dead.

Powerful poison, that stuff. It killed termites and guys who drink booze straight from the bottle.

29 posted on 10/24/2005 2:33:15 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

An exterminator told me that you could pour diesel fuel around the edges of the house, enough that it soaks in.


30 posted on 10/24/2005 2:35:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Doogle
Doogle, work on your delivery...

A Termite walks into a bar as asks, "Hey, is the bar tender here?" *rim shot*

See? Much funnier....
31 posted on 10/24/2005 2:36:10 PM PDT by vrwinger (You're entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts.)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

a"What are the two chemicals used to make that? Do you know? "

Huh? How about you tell us why you want to know that information. I'm not giving any instructions on making any pesticides online without knowing why someone wants to know.

Further, Google is your friend.


32 posted on 10/24/2005 2:38:03 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: dead

I was stopped coming back from TJ with a 2 lb box of Chlordane, the inspector asked if was for personal use, when I said yes he let me keep it and commented "sure works."


33 posted on 10/24/2005 2:39:51 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Chlrodane is chlordane. It's an oraganochloride, and it's chemical formula is C10H8Cl8. The structure looks like a pentane ring that's been bonded to a chair structure of a cyclopentane. The Cl groups hang off of the carbons.


34 posted on 10/24/2005 2:40:19 PM PDT by Beaker
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To: ElkGroveDan
Chlordane and Heptachlor.

Both made by Velsicol.

Diazinon is for outdoor use ONLY. Only idiots use it indoors. Very bad health effects. Long term, permanent health effects. It is both an inhalant and a contact poison. It attacks the central nervous system.

Always read the product labels and do an extensive web search before you self apply a chemical inside your house. If it is listed for outdoor use only, do not use indoors!

End professional rant.

Heptaclor and Chlordane were both very effective and persistent. My dad's house was treated (the soil under the foundation actually) when it was built in 1962 and has never had termites.
35 posted on 10/24/2005 2:40:33 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: vrwinger

OK OK...this guy walks into a bar with jumper cables wrapped around his neck, and the bartender says,"look buddy,don't start nothing here"

Doogle


36 posted on 10/24/2005 2:41:09 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF...7thAF ..4077th TFW...408th MMS..Ubon Thailand.."69",,Night Line Delivery..AMMO)
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To: Beaker

I thought it was a mix of powder chlorine and hydrochloric acid. :) 8 oz of chlorine then stir in 2 cups of acid.


37 posted on 10/24/2005 2:42:07 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

oraganochloride,=organochloride


38 posted on 10/24/2005 2:42:24 PM PDT by Beaker
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To: Beaker

I thought Chlor Dane was an actress?


39 posted on 10/24/2005 2:44:26 PM PDT by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1700 replies and not a single post!)
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To: Doogle

Let's try the with-punchlines-only method to speed things up!

"Why the long face?"

/rimshot


40 posted on 10/24/2005 2:44:44 PM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: Doogle; vrwinger
A piece of string walks into a bar says "Give me a beer."

The bartender says, "Get lost! We don't serve pieces of string in here!"

So the piece of string walks outside, pulls his ends apart, and twists himself up. He walks back into the bar and says, "Give me a beer."

The bartender says, "Hey, aren't you that piece of string I just kicked out of here."

The piece of string says, "No, I'm a frayed knot."

41 posted on 10/24/2005 2:44:48 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: OSHA
We do not know what it tastes like

Probably not chicken, lol

42 posted on 10/24/2005 2:47:32 PM PDT by calcowgirl (CA Special Election: Yes, Yes, Yes, No, No, No, No, No!)
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To: tumblindice
From the Cornell website: There is inadequate evidence to show that chlordane causes cancer in humans.

More EPA panic-mongering and hand-wringing foisted upon people in the name of responsible protections. It's another episode of the "Feed the animal its own weight in a given chemical in a month and scream at a measurable increase in cancer incidence" fiction.

Sheesh.

43 posted on 10/24/2005 2:47:43 PM PDT by TChris ("The central issue is America's credibility and will to prevail" - Goh Chok Tong)
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To: dead; Doogle

"I guess the high balls are on me!"


44 posted on 10/24/2005 2:51:40 PM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: kjam22
I thought it was a mix of powder chlorine and hydrochloric acid. :) 8 oz of chlorine then stir in 2 cups of acid.

I highly recommend nobody try this.

By "chlorine" I assume you mean sodium hypochlorite. Mixing this chemical with acid is a BAD IDEA. Highly toxic gases can be released, depending on the acid used.

Don't do it!

45 posted on 10/24/2005 2:53:19 PM PDT by Restorer (Illegitimati non carborundum)
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To: kjam22

Nope. There aren't any carbons involved in that reaction, if we're both talking about the same thing.


46 posted on 10/24/2005 2:54:35 PM PDT by Beaker
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To: PreviouslyA-Lurker

Chlordane. I still have a gallon of it somewhere in my shop. I' don't know what the shelf life is on the stuff though. I do know an exterminator who has begged me for it too.


47 posted on 10/24/2005 2:55:05 PM PDT by Normal4me (Cocoa, FL)
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To: Restorer
Around 20 years ago, a guy was doing some light remodeling at our house. I was talking with him and the subject of chlorine bleach came up.

He said his wife had died from mixing bleach with a window cleaner containing ammonia.

48 posted on 10/24/2005 2:56:50 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: GunnyHartman

DDT.
Technical DDT is made by condensing chloral hydrate with chlorobenzene in concentrated sulfuric acid.

It is pretty easy to make. Chloral is on FDA list.


49 posted on 10/24/2005 2:57:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (No expiration date on the oath to protect America from all enemies, foreign and domestic!)
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To: headsonpikes
That wastes too much time. Just use the number system.

39

ROFLMAO!!!!!

50 posted on 10/24/2005 2:58:11 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm just sitting here on the Group W bench.)
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