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Thomas Sowell: "Us" or "Them"
Creator's Syndicate ^ | October 25, 2005 | Dr. Thomas Sowell

Posted on 10/25/2005 2:24:39 AM PDT by RWR8189

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To: edsheppa

"Hmmm, that's being very generous to Steyn."

I agree. Sowell is a genuine heavyweight. Tremendously erudite.

101 posted on 10/25/2005 9:05:48 AM PDT by dsc
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To: RWR8189
"A reader recently sent me an e-mail about a woman he had met and fallen for. Apparently the attraction was mutual -- until one fateful day the subject of the environment came up...

She was absolutely opposed to any drilling for oil in Alaska, on grounds of what harm she said it would do to the environment...

That was the end of a beautiful relationship."

Wasted opportunity. Liberal women are, well, ahem, more liberal with certain, ummm, "liberties." Best to keep your mouth shut about the environment and enjoy the lass while you have the chance.

102 posted on 10/25/2005 9:10:50 AM PDT by tom h
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To: tom h

The NOW "ladies" will be on your doorstep shortly.

103 posted on 10/25/2005 9:32:17 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)

looking at those witholding deductions on their first paychecks always begin to enlighten the young

104 posted on 10/25/2005 9:35:11 AM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: RWR8189
I hope Dr. Sowell Lurks here. He has nailed the modern day liberal.

Wow... just wow.

105 posted on 10/25/2005 9:38:16 AM PDT by Toadman
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To: pollyannaish
...The Democrat party should go the way of the dinosaur...

I'll agree with you, sofar as to say that the party - in its current state - needs to go the way of the dinosaur. I think that we need a healthy balance between liberalism and conservativism, though. A country governed completely by conservatives would be, at best, drab and boring, and at worst, a dictatorship. Conversely, a country completely governed by liberals would be at best, a dictatorship (think president-for-life Hillary!) and at worst, complete anarchy.

And, I would lump Republicans and Libertarians together as conservatives, as the distinction is lost to most people other than those that are (R) or (L). At least for now. :-)

The Republican party is looking less and less conservative, these days. Just as the Dems have been getting more conservative with their ideas since the (80s? 90s?) in an attempt to preserve their power base. Heck, they haven't had an original idea since Jimmy Carter told people to turn their thermostats down in the 70s to save electricity. Their platform of late has been 'Whatever the Republicans think, we think the opposite. Even if it's a good idea, and we've supported it in the past'.

I'd look for a 3rd party to spring up eventually - composed of Dems that have been driven out by the fringe elements, and Republicans that are either disillusioned by the current state of the party, or take a more moderate view.

I think that there's a real opportunity for the Libertarians to step up and grab a significant piece of the electorate, if they get off the 'Legalize Drugs' platform that they've run on over the past few years. If they take their message a little more mainstream - small government, lower taxes, etc - I think that they could make significant gains.

/Diatribe off. And I'm still shuddering at the thought of President-for-Life Hillary Clinton. Maybe it would make a good Halloween costume.

106 posted on 10/25/2005 9:41:56 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Our man in washington
She very much likes the ideas of Thomas Sowell. That's just one of many great things about her. So, I'll be getting married in May. I wonder if I should send Sowell a thank-you card.

Congratulations! Have a long and joy-filled life together!

107 posted on 10/25/2005 9:52:14 AM PDT by Toadman
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To: RWR8189
It was about personal identification with lofty goals and kindred souls.

Great column. Thanks for posting it.

Lofty goals and kindred souls
Melting icecaps at the poles
Enviro-nuts who brook no "buts,"
They live to give us all, "Tut-tuts."

108 posted on 10/25/2005 10:07:59 AM PDT by syriacus (Bush hasn't done a bad job, all things (WOT, vagaries of Nature, Lib lies + obstruction) considered)
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To: Our man in washington


109 posted on 10/25/2005 10:17:59 AM PDT by syriacus (Bush hasn't done a bad job, all things (WOT, vagaries of Nature, Lib lies + obstruction) considered)
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110 posted on 10/25/2005 10:18:40 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: sauropod

Yes, that T.S. Eliot quote is a keeper.

Thanks for the ping, 'Pod!

111 posted on 10/25/2005 10:20:57 AM PDT by BufordP (Excluding the WOT, I haven't trusted W since he coined the term "compassionate conservative")
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To: RWR8189
"Reagan beefed up the military and entered into an "arms race" that he knew would bankrupt the Soviet Union if they didn't back off, even though arms races are anathema to members of "peace movements." The fact that events proved him right was no excuse as far as members of "peace movements" were concerned. As far as they were concerned, he was not one of Us. He was one of Them."

Liberal "true believers" are not about the truth. They are not interested in it.

Good article by Mr. Sowell.

112 posted on 10/25/2005 10:21:24 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: Cboldt

You have made that point many times as of late. It's a point worth repeating over and over and over......

113 posted on 10/25/2005 10:25:58 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: RWR8189

Excellent. Thanks for posting this.

114 posted on 10/25/2005 10:26:56 AM PDT by Rocky (Air America: Robbing the poor to feed the Left)
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To: George Smiley
I just realized....I have been reading Thomas Sowell for 25 years.
115 posted on 10/25/2005 10:27:20 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: TAdams8591

Great article. You could substitute welfare for the environment and have the same argument. It's irrelevent to the liberal "do-gooders" that welfare has completely wrecked the family and made things worse, they get to feel self-righteous for supporting it.

116 posted on 10/25/2005 10:27:23 AM PDT by half-cajun
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To: half-cajun
"It's irrelevent to the liberal "do-gooders" that welfare has completely wrecked the family and made things worse, they get to feel self-righteous for supporting it."

How absolutely true!

117 posted on 10/25/2005 10:28:48 AM PDT by TAdams8591 (It's the Supreme Court, stupid!)
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To: RWR8189
Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important

Sounds like a good tagline.

118 posted on 10/25/2005 10:29:52 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important)
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To: furball4paws
"The NOW "ladies" will be on your doorstep shortly. "

Too late. I've been in their sights for years. My wife and 12-year old daughter, both rabid conservatives, will argue them down.

119 posted on 10/25/2005 10:34:37 AM PDT by tom h
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To: TAdams8591
Then your bookshelf must be quite laden.

From Dr. Sowell's website

Any of the titles desired may be ordered by clicking either on or on Laissez-Faire Books

Black Rednecks and White Liberals (2005) laissezfairebooks
Affirmative Action Around the World: An Empirical Study (2004) laissezfairebooks
Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy  revised and expanded edition (2004) laissezfairebooks
Applied Economics: Thinking Beyond Stage One (2003) laissezfairebooks
The Einstein Syndrome: Bright Children Who Talk Late (2001) laissezfairebooks
Basic Economics: A Citizen's Guide to the Economy (2000) laissezfairebooks
A Personal Odyssey (2000) laissezfairebooks
The Quest for Cosmic Justice (1999) laissezfairebooks
Conquests and Cultures: An International History (1998) laissezfairebooks
Late-Talking Children (1997)
Migrations and Cultures: A World View (1996) laissezfairebooks
The Vision of the Anointed: Self-Congratulation as a Basis for
      Social Policy (1995) laissezfairebooks
Race and Culture: A World View (1994) laissezfairebooks
Inside American Education: The Decline, The Deception, The
      Dogmas (1993) laissezfairebooks
Preferential Policies: An International Perspective (1990)
Choosing a College: A Guide for Parents and Students (1989)
A Conflict of Visions: Ideological Origins of Political
      Struggles (1987) laissezfairebooks
Marxism: Philosophy and Economics (1985)
Civil Rights: Rhetoric or Reality (1984) laissezfairebooks
The Economics and Politics of Race: An International
      Perspective (1983) laissezfairebooks
Ethnic America: A History (1981) laissezfairebooks
Markets and Minorities (1981)
Knowledge and Decisions (1980) laissezfairebooks
Race and Economics (1975)
Classical Economics Reconsidered (1974) laissezfairebooks
Say's Law: An Historical Analysis (1972)
Black Education: Myths and Tragedies (1972)
Economics: Analysis and Issues (1971)

Controversial Essays (2002) laissezfairebooks
Barbarians Inside the Gates (1999) laissezfairebooks
Is Reality Optional? (1993) laissezfairebooks
Compassion versus Guilt (1987)
Education: Assumptions versus History (1986) laissezfairebooks
Pink and Brown People (1981)
Essays and Data on American Ethnic Groups (1978)

Judicial Activism Reconsidered (1989)
Affirmative Action Reconsidered: Was it Necessary in Academia?(1975)


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           August 8, 1976, pp. 14 ff.
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           December 8, 1975, p. 20.
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           edited by Sidney Hook, pp. 166-168.
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           Spring 1974, pp. 1-21.
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           edited by Eli Ginzberg (1974), pp. 111-130.
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           May 1973, pp. 33-37.
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           November-December 1971, pp. 2-7.
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           New York Times Magazine, December 13, 1970, pp. 34 ff.
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120 posted on 10/25/2005 10:35:48 AM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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