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China Warns Of Five-Fold Increase In Air Pollution In 15 Years
TerraDaily ^ | 10/24/2005 | AFP

Posted on 10/25/2005 8:20:07 AM PDT by cogitator

China's rapid economic growth and industrialization is posing a major challenge to the environment with air pollution likely to rise five-fold in 15 years, officials warned Monday.

"In the future 15 years, the population of China will reach 1.46 billion and the GDP will double, the pollution load will increase by four to five times according to the present resource consumption rate and pollution control level," said Zhang Lijun, vice minister of China's environmental agency SEPA.

Zhang was speaking at an air pollution conference organized by the State Environmental Protection Administration (SEPA), the US Environmental Protection Agency, the environmental directorate of the European Commission and the Italian Ministry for the Environment and Territory.

China's GDP growth of more than nine percent is causing more pollutants to be emitted, as more coal is burned for energy and more polluting factories are built, experts at the conference said.

A list of the world's most polluted cities includes several in China. Thirty percent of China is polluted by acid rain, Zhang said in a speech, while one fifth of the population is living in areas seriously polluted, including by dust, acid rain, smog and fine particles.

"The major challenge in China is that they have a fast growing economy, a lot of construction of power plants and use of energy," said Matti Vainio, deputy head of the European Commission's clean air and transport unit.

"Because of this, the emissions, potential emissions are huge," he said.

"In just five years, the emissions of one type of pollutant, sulfur dioxide, rose from about 20 million tons a year in 2000 to the current 26 million tons." Worsening air in China, especially in major cities, is leading to "more and more serious" health problems, including respiratory and lung illnesses, Zhang said.

"It's very important to get those numbers down," Vainio said.

"So the challenge is basically how to manage this prosperous economic growth, and at the same time reduce the environmental impact of the growth," he said.

China has already taken steps to reduce this future impact with a plan for economic growth between 2006-2010 placing a strong emphasis on minimal harm to the environment, a SEPA official said.

"There will be significant changes because of the five-year plan," Li Xinmin, deputy director-general of SEPA's pollution control department told AFP adding that the country could not continue down the path of "polluting first and cleaning up later". Chinese officials said China was toughening laws and adopting measures to reduce factory and vehicle pollution while SEPA planned to publish a list of cities that did not meet national air quality standards.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aerosols; air; china; economy; emissions; growth; lungdisease; pollution; smog; smoke; soot
If the air in China is bad, the water's worse (especially in eastern China).
1 posted on 10/25/2005 8:20:09 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

If doesn't kill Kyoto nothing will.


2 posted on 10/25/2005 8:22:15 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: cogitator
This is, of course, Bush's fault for letting the Chinese get away with this and for not signing the Tojo-Kojo treaty.
3 posted on 10/25/2005 8:23:15 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Socialist Dems, the MSM and Islamic murderers, ALL threats to the Republic!)
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To: cogitator


Yet they still have all those credits under the Kyoto accord to sell to Canada...hahahahahahha...IRONY hits the commies to the North all the time.


4 posted on 10/25/2005 8:23:18 AM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis.")
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To: cogitator
And the EU Leninist have the gal to blame everything on the United States not signing that useless, meaningless, economy killing Kyoto, while ignoring China's real pollution problems.
5 posted on 10/25/2005 8:23:26 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: DaveLoneRanger

ping


6 posted on 10/25/2005 8:24:18 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Greenpeace and the rest of the tree huggers are headed over right away, aren't they?
7 posted on 10/25/2005 8:24:28 AM PDT by Fido969 ("And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).)
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To: cogitator

kewl...China was entirely exempted from the requirements of the Kyoto Protocol.


8 posted on 10/25/2005 8:24:52 AM PDT by stylin19a
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To: cogitator
China Warns Of Five-Fold Increase In Air Pollution In 15 Years

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

What was that amount that Ireland "owes" somebody for signing on to the Kyoto Protocol? How many hundreds of Million Euros? It was reported in the last couple of weeks...
Why would any productive, technologically advanced nation sign on to such a ridiculous concept?

Can someone explain it to me again? I understand no part of it!

9 posted on 10/25/2005 8:25:31 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Semper Paratus
If doesn't kill Kyoto nothing will.

Why should it affect Kyoto at all? China is not a signatory.

10 posted on 10/25/2005 8:26:45 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: cogitator

That's okay because China is exempt from complying with Kyoto.


11 posted on 10/25/2005 8:27:39 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: cogitator

Emission control technology for coal-fired plants has existed for 30+ years. China needs to spend some money and start cleaning up their own mess.


12 posted on 10/25/2005 8:28:02 AM PDT by MediaMole
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To: cogitator
The Ops people where I work go to southern china often and tell me that the pollution there is worse than anything they have ever seen.
13 posted on 10/25/2005 8:28:59 AM PDT by lormand (Dead people vote DemocRAT)
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To: cogitator

Doubling the GDP in 15 years means slowing the average growth rate to something like 4.7%. Because now it is significantly higher [with all the corrections for commie statistics], it would mean that towards the end of the period, around 2015-2020 it would have to be much lower than that average, maybe around 1.5-2%.


14 posted on 10/25/2005 8:31:41 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: cogitator
There was either a thread, or a lengthy post within a thread sometime this year tracing the evolution of what became the Kyoto protocol. Does anyone remember it? I thought I had saved it, but can't find it.

It traced the origins to a specific charlatan who has been around forever, mostly enriching himself behind the scenes by manufacturing crises of all sorts, usually environmentally based. A sort of stealth environmental Ralph Nader on steroids...

I would love to find that description for future reference.

15 posted on 10/25/2005 8:35:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Publius6961

They did sign it, but they are exempt as a 'developing' nation..


16 posted on 10/25/2005 8:35:50 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: cogitator

Leftists just don't get it. Technological progress does not cause pollution. Modern methods are more environmentally sound than older methods. As more progress is made, more environmentally-friendly products will be developed as the economy allows it. This is assuming, of course, that the government gives freedom to private enterprises to compete.


17 posted on 10/25/2005 8:41:44 AM PDT by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: N3WBI3

I stand corrected.


18 posted on 10/25/2005 8:45:00 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: N3WBI3

"They did sign it, but they are exempt as a 'developing' nation.."

Maybe we declare New Orleans a developing nation and build more oil rigs and refineries.


19 posted on 10/25/2005 8:45:50 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: cogitator
Whats a little second hand smoke between friends. We are friends aren't we???
20 posted on 10/25/2005 8:46:21 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: MediaMole
Emission control technology for coal-fired plants has existed for 30+ years. China needs to spend some money and start cleaning up their own mess.

Apparently they don't need the gypsum (byproduct of coal stack S02 scrubbers).

Japan does, though!

21 posted on 10/25/2005 9:00:18 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: loreldan
Leftists just don't get it. Technological progress does not cause pollution. Modern methods are more environmentally sound than older methods. As more progress is made, more environmentally-friendly products will be developed as the economy allows it. This is assuming, of course, that the government gives freedom to private enterprises to compete.

Worth a repeat.

22 posted on 10/25/2005 9:02:31 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Publius6961

Was it Maurice Strong - a world class shill for the international ecofascists.


23 posted on 10/25/2005 9:05:52 AM PDT by Bedford Forrest (Roger, Contact, Judy, Out. Fox One. Splash one.<I>)
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To: cogitator

And China being exempt from most of the requirements of Kyoto that the Euro-jerks want us to sign on to. China already FAR exceeds the US emissions-and are the fastest growing consumer of petrolium.

Just another example of the international double standard.


24 posted on 10/25/2005 9:37:49 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of Satan)
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To: cogitator

"It Bush Fault!"


25 posted on 10/25/2005 9:45:27 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: Bedford Forrest
Was it Maurice Strong - a world class shill for the international ecofascists.

Might be. The article I refer to was quite specific about dates, objectives and total lack of a need for the process to have been started. The Kyoto Protocols, in essence is 100% a solution in need of a problem, combined with an innovative way to redistribute world wealth, or/and a Macchiavellian means of allowing Communism to overpower the west economically by the simple expedient of inventing "Carbon" sales, which the Soviets will have an excess of indefinitely, and the U.S. will not.

I am still digging.

26 posted on 10/25/2005 10:01:29 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: cogitator; texianyankee; roylene; JayB; ElkGroveDan; markman46; palmer; Bahbah; Paradox; FOG724; ...
(((GLOBAL WARMING PING)))



You have been pinged because of your interest in environmentalism, alarmist wackos, mainstream media doomsday hype, and other issues pertaining to global warming. Freep-mail me to get on or off.




Of course, few environmental groups are climbing in China for its woeful harming of "Mother Earth." Why not push to enforce Kyoto? Not that that would help.
27 posted on 10/25/2005 10:18:30 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: Publius6961
To check out Maurice Strong, Father of Kyoto...

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover010405.htm

28 posted on 10/25/2005 10:45:41 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

LOL, thats a great idea!


29 posted on 10/25/2005 11:16:37 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: cogitator

This is a serious problem that China will have to address. I hope they succeed in addressing it and provide a healthier environment for their own people.


30 posted on 10/25/2005 11:29:59 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: ponder life
I hope they succeed in addressing it and provide a healthier environment for their own people.

Reportedly they're going to close down industrial production around Beijing for the 2008 Olympics so that the air will be somewhat breathable.

31 posted on 10/25/2005 11:36:24 AM PDT by cogitator
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Reportedly they're going to close down industrial production around Beijing for the 2008 Olympics so that the air will be somewhat breathable.

Yes, that's their plan. The Olympics are very important to China. They will want to showcase Beijing during that time and are doing everything they can to make the city green.

32 posted on 10/25/2005 11:50:37 AM PDT by ponder life
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To: cogitator
See Beijing and surrounding country on the satellite map.

"World's pollution hotspots revealed from space"

16:42 12 October 2004
NewScientist.com news service
Katharine Davis
33 posted on 10/25/2005 1:09:36 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: cogitator

The air from Asia comes right through the valley here, has been visible most days for the past twenty years, and sometimes gets downright thick. Sometimes it makes the eyes and throat burn. In the summer it is hard to tell if it is local wildfires, but in winter when the air is moving so local woodstoves and powerplants aren't a factor, there it is, the valley smoked out. It's going to get five times thicker in fifteen years. Great.


34 posted on 10/25/2005 1:14:15 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: cogitator
Link to a high resolution image--1632KB.]

[It appears that image posting on FR has stopped working.]
35 posted on 10/25/2005 1:22:46 PM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: lormand
China is probably like many of America's former heavily coal fired steel mill towns like Gary, Indiana, back in the 50's and 60's. The air was choked in dark black smoke that reeked of odors and covered all the buildings in town with a filthy layer of soot.

My father said Gary, Indiana was as close of a picture of Hell that one could imagine back then. Thank God that America's steel industry was forced to change, which made great changes in helping clean the air in some of America's worst polluted cities.

Paper Mills in Kalamazoo, Michigan, choked the life out of the rivers they used for their waste water. The Odor from the Kalamazoo river smelled very much like a river of raw sewage. Today the Paper mills are all gone and the river now runs clear. I'm sure the river bottom is still mired with PCB's and plenty of Dangerous heavy metals.

I can just imagine how bad China's environment will get before they start paying the price to clean up their waste and pollution.
36 posted on 10/25/2005 4:40:09 PM PDT by herkbird (Semper Fi)
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To: familyop
The other one might have been too big. And we're breathing that red air here in the Maryland Mountains, too.


37 posted on 10/26/2005 7:19:25 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: herkbird
Paper Mills in Kalamazoo, Michigan, choked the life out of the rivers they used for their waste water.

Yep, same problem occurred for the Fox River in Wisconsin (near where I grew up in New London). But they've apparently done a decent job of cleaning that river up.

38 posted on 10/26/2005 7:22:00 AM PDT by cogitator
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To: cogitator

Thank you. It turned out to be a browser misconfiguration here. ...and a little opinion commentary on what I've seen.

A principled small group in NASA was the first, as far as I know, to find and show that our world's leaders are mainly harming arable lowlands (lack of runoff and filtering) around our large cities by concentrating populations in them. A generation before mine--a generation with more common sense--knew that "urban sprawl" was the enlargement of our cities and not movement into rural areas. For example, about a 100 years ago, there were a couple of communities in the Rockies of more than 60,000 people each. Now each of those areas are hardly populated at all.

Most environmental concerns about residential areas are improperly, IMO, focused on sterile but pretty places (mountains, deserts). Isn't it nice to have no near neighbors (little sarcasm there) where so many lowlanders love vacation (money and exclusivity). Corporations that use natural resources have fronted greenie relatives and other associates to push small competition out of the way (saw it here in the lumber industry and housing developments).

So China has built its factories and other plants in the lowlands (no runoff for filtering) and is inviting tourists to its mountains (pretty but naturally sterile). And the world is pushing schemes like the hypocritical Kyoto Accord with a blind eye toward smoky China.


39 posted on 10/26/2005 11:51:29 AM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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To: N3WBI3

China is the first "developing nation" to launch two manned space flights. When will we wake up?


40 posted on 10/27/2005 2:22:23 AM PDT by kevin_in_so_cal (http://www.boycottmadeinchina.org)
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