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Able Danger warned of attack on USS Cole
Times Herald ^ | Oct 25 05 | KEITH PHUCAS

Posted on 10/25/2005 1:41:43 PM PDT by churchillbuff

NORRISTOWN - Senior Pentagon officials were warned not to let the USS Cole dock in Yemen two days before terrorists attacked the ship five years ago killing 17 sailors, according to Congressman Curt Weldon, who said the crucial intelligence was gleaned from the former secret defense operation, "Able Danger."

Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, revealed the information in a House speech last Wednesday evening that blasted the Defense Intelligence Agency's (DIA) attempts to discredit Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, a DIA employee who worked as a liaison with the "Able Danger" team. In June, Shaffer told The Times Herald during an interview on Capitol Hill that the now-defunct data mining operation had linked Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta to an al-Qaida cell in Brooklyn in 2000 - more than a year before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. The military's Special Operations Command ran the high-tech dragnet that searched for terrorist linkages. The terrorist associations were mapped out on large charts, according to Shaffer and other of "Able Danger" colleagues, during the program that operated between 1999 and 2001. However, following Shaffer's attempts to broker an arrangement that would draw the FBI into the operation, the program was shut down. Weldon and Shaffer believe "Able Danger" intelligence may have disrupted - or even prevented - the Sept. 11 attacks if it had continued. In August, Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and James D. Smith, a defense contractor, corroborated Shaffer's story. On Wednesday, Weldon again criticized the Pentagon for dragging its feet in its probe of the defense program's history, and continued his criticism of the CIA, which he said tried to protect its own intelligence turf from other government intelligence agencies. "What we have here, I am convinced of this now, is an aggressive attempt by CIA management to cover up their own shortcomings in not being able to do what the Able Danger team did," he said. Besides claiming to identifying Atta from a grainy photograph prior to Sept. 11, the intelligence team also tried to warn the Pentagon not to allow the USS Cole to make a refueling stop in Yemen five years ago, Weldon said. On Oct. 12, 2000, a small boat loaded with explosives rammed into the side of the USS Cole as the ship refueled in port at Aden, killing the 17 Navy personnel. "(Able Danger members) also identified the threat to the USS Cole two weeks before the attack, and two days before the attack were screaming not to let the (ship) come into the harbor at Yemen, because they knew something was going to happen," he said. The "Able Danger" group operated at the Army's former Land Information Warfare Center (LIWA), in Ft. Belvoir, Va. After LIWA's intelligence gathering capability impressed Weldon, he tried to pitch the idea of a collaborative intelligence center to the CIA in 1999, but was rebuffed. Also in his speech, Weldon accused the DIA of trying to smear Shaffer rather than come clean on why "Able Danger" was shut down. Shaffer, who was awarded a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, had his top-secret security clearance suspended in 2004 allegedly because of disputes over travel expenses and phone bills. But his supporters suggest Shaffer is being made a scapegoat for going public with the "Able Danger" revelations in August. Two days before he was set to testify about the program before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Sept. 21, the Reserve officer's secret clearance was revoked, and the Defense Department barred him, Phillpott and Smith from testifying at the hearing. Also in August, Pentagon officials told reporters at a press conference that "Able Danger" data had been deleted from computers. A former Army intelligence officer, Erik Kleinsmith, confirmed this at the Judiciary Committee hearing, testifying he was ordered to destroy information. During the life of the program, the operation's team members created charts linking terrorists. However, during the recent investigation, none have been found. The Pentagon, which claimed it is restricted from retaining intelligence on United States citizens and foreign residents living in the U.S., so-called "U.S. persons," for more than 90 days. However, Weldon has previously said most of the program's data was open source information and not classified. According to guidelines in Army Regulation 381-10, intelligence data can be kept indefinitely if it was culled from open sources. An unnamed "Able Danger official," Weldon said, was told by a Pentagon lawyer that it's okay to extend the time intelligence information is stored. A Pentagon spokesman, Lt. Col. Chris Conway, said recently that Defense Department officials worried that any public testimony given about "Able Danger" risked revealing classified information. "Prior to any testimony, we expressed our security concerns with Congress," Conway said. "We said in discussing Able Danger, (it) could inadvertently reveal classified information." Defense officials said they would allow military personnel to testify about the program behind closed doors. Previously, Shaffer said that Atta, an Egyptian, had been linked to the El Farouq mosque in Brooklyn, N.Y., a hotbed of anti-American sentiment once frequented by Sheik Omar Ahmed Abdul Rahman, know as the "Blind Sheik." Rahman is also Egyptian. Atta was not believed to be in the U.S., however, when he came to the attention of the team. In 1995, Rahman was convicted of plotting to bomb various sites in New York City. Four of Rahman's associates were convicted in 2002 of conspiring with him to commit terrorist acts while he was in prison. Though Shaffer was not allowed to give testimony at the Sept. 21 committee hearing, his attorney, Mark Zaid, did testify. As a sobering reminder of "Able Danger's" unfulfilled promise, Zaid said the missing charts showing terrorist links likely still contained "several dozen" individuals yet to be captured. "There are terrorist on the chart who may still be out there and planning attacks," Zaid said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: aaaamyeyes; abledanger; atta; attaable; paragraphobia; paragraphsdiediedie; usscole

1 posted on 10/25/2005 1:41:46 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
And WHO was Commander-in-Chief at the time?.......................................
2 posted on 10/25/2005 1:44:38 PM PDT by Red Badger (In life, you don't get what you deserve. You get what you settle for...........)
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To: churchillbuff

Ah--another piece in Clinton's missing legacy.


3 posted on 10/25/2005 1:46:11 PM PDT by rod1
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To: rod1

Its like screaming into a hurricane.


4 posted on 10/25/2005 1:47:09 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Nothing fills the void of a passing hurricane better than government)
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To: churchillbuff
Another article on this? We have known this for a long time. Google Kie Fallis. Oh well, at least it is still making the news. From my files:
Vice Adm. Thomas Wilson, director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, wrote to all DIA personnel this week to explain the protest resignation of a DIA analyst in October. The analyst, Kie Fallis, quit the day after the USS Cole was attacked by suicide bombers in Aden, Yemen. Mr. Fallis charged that a report he had written on the threat of a terrorist attack in Yemen was suppressed by senior DIA officials.

Mr. Fallis' resignation letter stated that he had "significant analytic differences" with DIA superiors over a terrorist threat assessment produced in June.

U.S. intelligence officials said there were warnings, but they arrived too late. The National Security Agency issued a report shortly after the Cole was bombed warning of attacks in the region —too late to be useful.

Adm. Wilson said he asked the Pentagon inspector general (IG) to investigate Mr. Fallis' charges. In an awkwardly worded statement, the three-star admiral said on Wednesday the IG "found no evidence to support the public perception that information warning of an attack on Cole was suppressed, ignored or even available in DIA." What about the private perception?

The admiral's statement drew smirks from several intelligence officials. It relied on a dodge often used by intelligence analysts to dismiss unwelcome information. Saying there is "no evidence" —like that presented to a court of law — is often used to mask the fact there is lots of intelligence to the contrary that spooks would rather not talk about in public.

Source

Mr. Fallis also uncovered terrorist info related to 9/11:

One piece of the puzzle that Mr. Fallis uncovered was an intelligence report about a secret meeting of al Qaeda terrorists in a condominium complex in Malaysia in January 2000.

Information obtained after September 11 identified two of them as Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who would be on American Airlines Flight 77 when it crashed into the Pentagon. They met with a former Malaysian army captain, Yazi Sufaat, described by Malaysian authorities as a key link in Southeast Asia for al Qaeda, who later would be tied to the bombing of the Cole.

What alarmed U.S. intelligence at the time was that Malaysian security officials traced the men to the Iranian Embassy there, where they spent the night.

Source


5 posted on 10/25/2005 1:47:29 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: samadams2000
Its like screaming into a hurricane.

Or reading unformatted stories.

>8-\

6 posted on 10/25/2005 1:48:41 PM PDT by eyespysomething (I broke the dam.)
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To: churchillbuff

Dude, you've been here long enough to know that paragraphs are your friends.


7 posted on 10/25/2005 1:48:53 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: churchillbuff

That's the biggest paragraph I ever saw.


8 posted on 10/25/2005 1:50:12 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: churchillbuff

Related:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1505816/posts
Text of Rep. Curt Weldon's 'Able Danger' House Speech, 10-19-05 (New witness revealed)

See post 1:

>>>What we have here, I am convinced of this now, is an aggressive attempt by CIA management to cover up their own shortcomings in not being able to do what the Able Danger team did: They identified Mohammed Atta and the al Qaeda cell of Brooklyn 1 year before Ð9/11. But even before that, as the story unfolds, you are going to hear the story that they also identified the threat to the USS Cole 2 weeks before the attack, and 2 days before the attack were screaming not to let the USS Cole come into the harbor at Yemen because they knew something was about to happen.

Mr. Speaker, bad news never comes easy; but in a democracy, the bad news has to come out so we can make sure it does not happen again.<<<<


9 posted on 10/25/2005 1:50:17 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: churchillbuff
Able Danger had information regarding the Cole and it was ignored?

What do you want to bet they had information directly related to 9/11?

10 posted on 10/25/2005 1:54:34 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Reactionary

They did. See the link I posted.


11 posted on 10/25/2005 1:56:50 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: churchillbuff

good thing this was posted here- the criminal MSM would never report this...


12 posted on 10/25/2005 1:58:08 PM PDT by God luvs America (When the silent majority speaks the earth trembles!)
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To: God luvs America

Long live the new media...


13 posted on 10/25/2005 2:01:25 PM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: churchillbuff

HERE IS SOME HELP WITH FORMATTING:

NORRISTOWN - Senior Pentagon officials were warned not to let the USS Cole dock in Yemen two days before terrorists attacked the ship five years ago killing 17 sailors, according to Congressman Curt Weldon, who said the crucial intelligence was gleaned from the former secret defense operation, "Able Danger."


Weldon, vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, revealed the information in a House speech last Wednesday evening that blasted the Defense Intelligence Agency's (DIA) attempts to discredit Army Reserve Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer, a DIA employee who worked as a liaison with the "Able Danger" team.

In June, Shaffer told The Times Herald during an interview on Capitol Hill that the now-defunct data mining operation had linked Sept. 11 hijacker Mohamed Atta to an al-Qaida cell in Brooklyn in 2000 - more than a year before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

The military's Special Operations Command ran the high-tech dragnet that searched for terrorist linkages. The terrorist associations were mapped out on large charts, according to Shaffer and other of "Able Danger" colleagues, during the program that operated between 1999 and 2001.

However, following Shaffer's attempts to broker an arrangement that would draw the FBI into the operation, the program was shut down.

Weldon and Shaffer believe "Able Danger" intelligence may have disrupted - or even prevented - the Sept. 11 attacks if it had continued.

In August, Navy Capt. Scott Phillpott and James D. Smith, a defense contractor, corroborated Shaffer's story.
On Wednesday, Weldon again criticized the Pentagon for dragging its feet in its probe of the defense program's history, and continued his criticism of the CIA, which he said tried to protect its own intelligence turf from other government intelligence agencies.

"What we have here, I am convinced of this now, is an aggressive attempt by CIA management to cover up their own shortcomings in not being able to do what the Able Danger team did," he said.

Besides claiming to identifying Atta from a grainy photograph prior to Sept. 11, the intelligence team also tried to warn the Pentagon not to allow the USS Cole to make a refueling stop in Yemen five years ago, Weldon said.
On Oct. 12, 2000, a small boat loaded with explosives rammed into the side of the USS Cole as the ship refueled in port at Aden, killing the 17 Navy personnel.

"(Able Danger members) also identified the threat to the USS Cole two weeks before the attack, and two days before the attack were screaming not to let the (ship) come into the harbor at Yemen, because they knew something was going to happen," he said.

The "Able Danger" group operated at the Army's former Land Information Warfare Center (LIWA), in Ft. Belvoir, Va. After LIWA's intelligence gathering capability impressed Weldon, he tried to pitch the idea of a collaborative intelligence center to the CIA in 1999, but was rebuffed.

Also in his speech, Weldon accused the DIA of trying to smear Shaffer rather than come clean on why "Able Danger" was shut down.

Shaffer, who was awarded a Bronze Star for his service in Afghanistan, had his top-secret security clearance suspended in 2004 allegedly because of disputes over travel expenses and phone bills.

But his supporters suggest Shaffer is being made a scapegoat for going public with the "Able Danger" revelations in August.

Two days before he was set to testify about the program before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Sept. 21, the Reserve officer's secret clearance was revoked, and the Defense Department barred him, Phillpott and Smith from testifying at the hearing.

Also in August, Pentagon officials told reporters at a press conference that "Able Danger" data had been deleted from computers. A former Army intelligence officer, Erik Kleinsmith, confirmed this at the Judiciary Committee hearing, testifying he was ordered to destroy information.
During the life of the program, the operation's team members created charts linking terrorists. However, during the recent investigation, none have been found.

The Pentagon, which claimed it is restricted from retaining intelligence on United States citizens and foreign residents living in the U.S., so-called "U.S. persons," for more than 90 days.

However, Weldon has previously said most of the program's data was open source information and not classified. According to guidelines in Army Regulation 381-10, intelligence data can be kept indefinitely if it was culled from open sources.

An unnamed "Able Danger official," Weldon said, was told by a Pentagon lawyer that it's okay to extend the time intelligence information is stored.

A Pentagon spokesman, Lt. Col. Chris Conway, said recently that Defense Department officials worried that any public testimony given about "Able Danger" risked revealing classified information.

"Prior to any testimony, we expressed our security concerns with Congress," Conway said. "We said in discussing Able Danger, (it) could inadvertently reveal classified information."

Defense officials said they would allow military personnel to testify about the program behind closed doors.
Previously, Shaffer said that Atta, an Egyptian, had been linked to the El Farouq mosque in Brooklyn, N.Y., a hotbed of anti-American sentiment once frequented by Sheik Omar Ahmed Abdul Rahman, know as the "Blind Sheik." Rahman is also Egyptian. Atta was not believed to be in the U.S., however, when he came to the attention of the team.
In 1995, Rahman was convicted of plotting to bomb various sites in New York City. Four of Rahman's associates were convicted in 2002 of conspiring with him to commit terrorist acts while he was in prison.

Though Shaffer was not allowed to give testimony at the Sept. 21 committee hearing, his attorney, Mark Zaid, did testify.

As a sobering reminder of "Able Danger's" unfulfilled promise, Zaid said the missing charts showing terrorist links likely still contained "several dozen" individuals yet to be captured.

"There are terrorist on the chart who may still be out there and planning attacks," Zaid said.


14 posted on 10/25/2005 2:01:58 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Reactionary

Sadly those who only see a way to "get" Clinton or "get" Bush will be the most effective tool for shutting it down. If there was ever a time when the American people needed to stand together and demand the truth, PERIOD, it's now.

It will get hot on both sides of the aisle but real Americans don't put party above nation or the lives of their fellow citizens.


15 posted on 10/25/2005 2:02:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: Reactionary
In addition to Calpernia's post, see my post #5 on this thread as well. Yes they did have that info. This also ties into what Sandy Bergler stole. From my files:

We already know exactly what Berglar took and why...pay close attention to the last para on the Clarke/Kerrick memo. From Ashcroft's testimony:

The NSC's Millennium After Action Review declares that the United States barely missed major terrorist attacks in 1999 — with luck playing a major role. Among the many vulnerabilities in homeland defenses identified, the Justice Department's surveillance and FISA operations were specifically criticized for their glaring weaknesses. It is clear from the review that actions taken in the Millennium Period should not be the operating model for the U.S. government.

In March 2000, the review warns the prior Administration of a substantial al Qaeda network and affiliated foreign terrorist presence within the U.S., capable of supporting additional terrorist attacks here. [My note: Able Danger info]

Furthermore, fully seventeen months before the September 11 attacks, the review recommends disrupting the al Qaeda network and terrorist presence here using immigration violations, minor criminal infractions, and tougher visa and border controls.

Post #745

It falls directly into the AD timeline. In that same post, I note that what Sandy Berger stole was the versions of the after action report:

The missing copies, according to Breuer and their author, Richard A. Clarke, the counterterrorism chief in the Clinton administration and early in President Bush's administration, were versions of after-action reports recommending changes following threats of terrorism as 1999 turned to 2000. Clarke said he prepared about two dozen ideas for countering terrorist threats. The recommendations were circulated among Cabinet agencies, and various versions of the memo contained additions and refinements, Clarke said last night.

Therefore, they were never provided to the Commission, as evidenced by the Commission Report footnotes (#769):

46. NSC email, Clarke to Kerrick,“Timeline,”Aug. 19, 1998; Samuel Berger interview (Jan. 14, 2004). We did not find documentation on the after-action review mentioned by Berger. On Vice Chairman Joseph Ralston’s mission in Pakistan, see William Cohen interview (Feb. 5, 2004). For speculation on tipping off the Taliban, see, e.g., Richard Clarke interview (Dec. 18, 2003).

And to what does footnote (46) refer? On p. 117, Chapter 4, we find this:

Later on August 20, Navy vessels in the Arabian Sea fired their cruise missiles. Though most of them hit their intended targets, neither Bin Ladin nor any other terrorist leader was killed. Berger told us that an after-action review by Director Tenet concluded that the strikes had killed 20–30 people in the camps but probably missed Bin Ladin by a few hours. Since the missiles headed for Afghanistan had had to cross Pakistan, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs was sent to meet with Pakistan’s army chief of staff to assure him the missiles were not coming from India. Officials in Washington speculated that one or another Pakistani official might have sent a warning to the Taliban or Bin Ladin. (46)
How about that? How many times have we heard Clinton say that he missed Bin Ladin by just a few hours? Yet the after-action report is missing, so the Commission relied on Sandy Berger's testimony.

Then the Clarke/Kerrick memo peaked my interest and I found this (#784):

Clarke was nervous about such a mission because he continued to fear that Bin Ladin might leave for someplace less accessible. He wrote Deputy National Security Advisor Donald Kerrick that one reliable source reported Bin Ladin's having met with Iraqi officials, who "may have offered him asylum." Other intelligence sources said that some Taliban leaders, though not Mullah Omar, had urged Bin Ladin to go to Iraq. If Bin Ladin actually moved to Iraq, wrote Clarke, his network would be at Saddam Hussein's service, and it would be "virtually impossible" to find him. Better to get Bin Ladin in Afghanistan, Clarke declared.

Kerry and crew could not afford to have this info come out before the election.
16 posted on 10/25/2005 2:02:28 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: churchillbuff

How long before one of the relatives of the sailors killed on the Cole blame it on Bush? We know the press will try.



17 posted on 10/25/2005 2:03:08 PM PDT by JSteff
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To: JSteff

I wanna know where the Jersey girls are? seems like this would be of extreme importance to them.


18 posted on 10/25/2005 2:08:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Never a minigun handy when you need one.)
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To: ravingnutter

And the MSM is gonna cover this when?


19 posted on 10/25/2005 2:15:11 PM PDT by kjo
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To: truthandlife
>>>>Senior Pentagon officials were warned not to let the USS Cole dock in Yemen two days before terrorists attacked the ship five years ago killing 17 sailors, according to Congressman Curt Weldon, who said the crucial intelligence was gleaned from the former secret defense operation, "Able Danger."

From my link:

What we have here, I am convinced of this now, is an aggressive attempt by CIA management to cover up their own shortcomings in not being able to do what the Able Danger team did: They identified Mohammed Atta and the al Qaeda cell of Brooklyn 1 year before Ð9/11. But even before that, as the story unfolds, you are going to hear the story that they also identified the threat to the USS Cole 2 weeks before the attack, and 2 days before the attack were screaming not to let the USS Cole come into the harbor at Yemen because they knew something was about to happen.

20 posted on 10/25/2005 2:15:18 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: ravingnutter

bttt


21 posted on 10/25/2005 2:16:05 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Coleus; Fedora; windchime; backhoe; Liz; nicmarlo; Viking2002; piasa; genefromjersey; TVenn; ...

ping


22 posted on 10/25/2005 2:17:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
Thanks for the ping!

This is just getting worse and worse...for the Clintons, the CIA, and the Pentagon. No wonder so many people are trying to keep the news about Able Danger suppressed.

23 posted on 10/25/2005 2:19:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: kjo
And the MSM is gonna cover this when?

They are way too busy assisting the CIA and French in a coup against President Bush (see #42).

24 posted on 10/25/2005 2:20:32 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter

bttt


25 posted on 10/25/2005 2:21:07 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: truthandlife

bttt


26 posted on 10/25/2005 2:21:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ravingnutter
BIG BTTT
27 posted on 10/25/2005 2:23:06 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: backhoe

ping


28 posted on 10/25/2005 2:24:55 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: MileHi
That's the biggest paragraph I ever saw.

Not even in the top ten.

29 posted on 10/25/2005 2:33:07 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping!


30 posted on 10/25/2005 2:39:18 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: churchillbuff

My eyes!


31 posted on 10/25/2005 2:41:08 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: MileHi
That's the biggest paragraph I ever saw.

Agreed. War and Peace would look like Cliff's Notes.

32 posted on 10/25/2005 2:43:28 PM PDT by Cobra64
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To: Cobra64


Meanwhile, the MSM is concentrating on "real" news. I hear how Stern's mad about his replacement...


33 posted on 10/25/2005 2:48:35 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: Calpernia; Cindy
I'll crosslink it:

Able Danger, 9-11 Report, Gorelick, and so much more...

Click the picture...

34 posted on 10/25/2005 2:50:27 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: backhoe

THANK YOU backhoe.


35 posted on 10/25/2005 3:13:39 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: churchillbuff

God strengthen Welden and undergird him with truth from every direction and the ability to discern between it and lies sent to confound.


36 posted on 10/25/2005 3:16:17 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: MileHi

"That's the biggest paragraph I ever saw."

Read some of Buckminster Fuller for long paragraphs that are correct. :-)


37 posted on 10/25/2005 3:17:08 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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To: Cindy

38 posted on 10/25/2005 3:29:46 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: churchillbuff
No wonder we can't get to the bottom of this. TOO MUCH INFORMATION!
39 posted on 10/25/2005 3:36:46 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: ravingnutter

It make the 9/11 Commission look like a whitewash...which it is.


40 posted on 10/25/2005 4:26:18 PM PDT by Rapscallion (It goes far deeper than contempt of Congress. The 9/11 Commission is a whitewash.)
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To: rod1

Does anyone have a good guess as to the type of stuff that Sandy Burglar was cramming in his socks and underwear?

This is just proof of what has been evident for some time.


41 posted on 10/25/2005 4:31:03 PM PDT by 308MBR (Four on the floor and a fifth under the seat.)
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To: cripplecreek
I wanna know where the Jersey girls are? seems like this would be of extreme importance to them.

The Jersey girls were only useful in demanding that the office of Homeland Security be set up to oversee several departments. They accomplished their "Handler's" mission and their service is no longer needed.

42 posted on 10/25/2005 4:57:11 PM PDT by Annie Gram
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To: cripplecreek
Sadly those who only see a way to "get" Clinton or "get" Bush will be the most effective tool for shutting it down. If there was ever a time when the American people needed to stand together and demand the truth, PERIOD, it's now.

Absolutely, but you can bet it falls to deaf ears on both sides of the political spectrum. People have put their lives on the line to expose this and I would sincerely hate to see this swept under the rug because some refuse to see the broader sense of the issue at hand.

43 posted on 10/25/2005 5:08:39 PM PDT by Annie Gram
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To: churchillbuff

I was on the USS Tarawa 18 to twenty hours north of the USS Cole when it was attacked. We lauched Harriers as soon we were in attack range, we sent DC teams, portable generators, corpsman, set up a beach det with assistance from some marines, 11th MEU, shipped surviors to Rahmstein, berthed USS Cole surviors in USS Tarawa's sickbay and I was there to place the last two remains into bodybags when they were at last cut free from the crumpled steel and you mean it was all preventable? Indict Clinton!!!!


44 posted on 10/25/2005 5:26:20 PM PDT by Cenobite (Can't spell unethical without the U.N.)
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To: Calpernia

Thanks for the ping! Have been out of town--it's catch up time!


45 posted on 10/25/2005 6:44:27 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Cenobite

Correct...and thank you for your service...

And an excellent tag line.


46 posted on 10/25/2005 6:58:00 PM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: churchillbuff

This just keeps getting interestinger and interestinger.

The part that keeps coming back to my mind is that the Able Danger folks got shutdown in part because their whizbang computer info system started fingerin high ranking administration officials as being involved with the Chinese and others.


47 posted on 10/25/2005 11:02:09 PM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Calpernia

Bump.
I'm glad this has it's own thread.


48 posted on 10/26/2005 6:32:56 AM PDT by Velveeta
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49 posted on 10/26/2005 10:16:42 AM PDT by CGVet58 (God has granted us Liberty, and we owe Him Courage in return)
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