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Niger document forger in pay of France
The American Thinker ^ | 10-25-05 | Clarice Feldman

Posted on 10/25/2005 2:04:14 PM PDT by Renfield

Russo Martino, the man behind the forged documents indicating Saddam had purchased uranium from Niger, which Joseph A. Wilson falsely claimed he had seen and warned the Administration about, has come forward and admitted that he did this in the pay of France to undermine the British and American justification for the war in Iraq:

The man, identified by an Italian news agency as Rocco Martino, was the subject of a Telegraph article earlier this month in which he was referred to by his intelligence codename, “Giacomo”.

His admission to investigating magistrates in Rome on Friday apparently confirms suggestions that – by commissioning “Giacomo” to procure and circulate documents – France was responsible for some of the information later used by Britain and the United States to promote the case for war with Iraq.

Italian diplomats have claimed that, by disseminating bogus documents stating that Iraq was trying to buy low-grade “yellowcake” uranium from Niger, France was trying to “set up” Britain and America in the hope that when the mistake was revealed it would undermine the case for war, which it wanted to prevent.

Italian judicial officials confirmed yesterday that Mr Martino had previously been sought for questioning by Rome. Investigating magistrates in the city have opened an inquiry into claims he made previously in the international press that Italy’s secret services had been behind the dissemination of false documents, to bolster the US case for war.

According to Ansa, the Italian news agency, which said privately that it had obtained its information from “judicial and other sources”, Mr Martino was questioned by an investigating magistrate, Franco Ionta, for two hours. Ansa said Mr Martino told the magistrate that Italy’s military intelligence, Sismi, had no role in the procuring or dissemination of the Niger documents.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 16words; beltwaywarzone; cialeak; forgery; france; giacomo; iraq; italy; martino; niger; nigerflap; plame; roccomartino; russomartino; saddam; uranium; wilson; wmd; yellowcake
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This is interesting.

Link referred to above ("admitted", html formatting doesn't come through....) is: http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/09/19/wniger19.xml

1 posted on 10/25/2005 2:04:16 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Renfield

The Demo/Commies will be greatly saddened... One more reason to boycott France...


2 posted on 10/25/2005 2:05:28 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: Renfield

I smell pepe la pue


3 posted on 10/25/2005 2:05:58 PM PDT by SF Republican
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To: Zeppo
Link to original article:

Agent behind fake uranium documents worked for France

4 posted on 10/25/2005 2:06:32 PM PDT by Zeppo
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To: Renfield

Very interesting indeed!


5 posted on 10/25/2005 2:06:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Renfield
Admitted
6 posted on 10/25/2005 2:07:39 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: Renfield

Let's see how the MSM handles this story.


7 posted on 10/25/2005 2:08:15 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: conservativepoet

When will this get posted on DU?


8 posted on 10/25/2005 2:08:35 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: massgopguy

"When will this get posted on DU?"

I seriously doubt it, but if it does make it over there, it will be turned on its head in a way my brain can't fathom.

It hard for me to sneak over there and endure their nonsense. I'm looking forward to a great supper and that just might ruin it for me.


9 posted on 10/25/2005 2:11:45 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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To: Renfield

After we get done with Syria, its time to turn our attention to the fourth member of the axis of evil, France.



10 posted on 10/25/2005 2:12:05 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican
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To: Renfield
... by disseminating bogus documents stating that Iraq was trying to buy low-grade “yellowcake” uranium from Niger, France was trying to “set up” Britain and America in the hope that when the mistake was revealed it would undermine the case for war, which it wanted to prevent.

This statement begs the question; why?

Oil for food bucks? Arms contracts? Nuclear Research sales?
Therein lies the real news.

11 posted on 10/25/2005 2:12:07 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Renfield

I'm so sick of hearing about yellow cake..How about 'Glazed donut uranium?'

12 posted on 10/25/2005 2:12:37 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: conservativepoet

Lets see how the MSM handles this story?

Quite simple. They won't.


13 posted on 10/25/2005 2:13:48 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: Publius6961

Off the top of my head, I'd say that French jealousy of the U.S. has reached such preposterous heights, that they will do anything to cause mischief to us.


14 posted on 10/25/2005 2:14:49 PM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: Renfield

Do we have any congresscritter with enough balls to go after the French over this? Bush should NOT have to be the heavy here. Santorum? Frist? Anyone?????????


15 posted on 10/25/2005 2:15:22 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Renfield

As I recall, he was linked with French intelligence in the earliest stories, but it's interesting that he admits it, and the reasons behind it.

Now the question is whether the French may have acted as cutoffs for rogue operators in the CIA. It's not improbable, since they communicate fairly often and agree on the anti-war agenda.


16 posted on 10/25/2005 2:15:46 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

And don't forget that Joe Wilson's second wife is French.


17 posted on 10/25/2005 2:16:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Renfield

huh......


18 posted on 10/25/2005 2:17:18 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Renfield

Russo Martino AKA Dan Rather


19 posted on 10/25/2005 2:17:47 PM PDT by pbear8 (Jayson Blair and Judith Miller - a match made in ...)
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To: Zeppo
Italian diplomats have claimed that, by disseminating bogus documents stating that Iraq was trying to buy low-grade "yellowcake" uranium from Niger, France was trying to "set up" Britain and America in the hope that when the mistake was revealed it would undermine the case for war, which it wanted to prevent.

I think we need to find out all we can about the French operative and second wife of Joseph Wilson....Jacqueline Wilson.

20 posted on 10/25/2005 2:17:56 PM PDT by colorcountry (Proud Parent of a Soldier, a UPS Driver, an Executive, a Construction Worker, and a Student)
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To: sgtbono2002

I think the MSM will cover this story the way they cover every other story--by blaming Bush! The MSM will find some moonbats to allege that Bush either prompted the french to do this, or that Bush knew about the forgeries. Alternatively, the MSM will play up only 1/2 the story, and claim that the case for the war was based on "documents we now know to be forged".


21 posted on 10/25/2005 2:19:00 PM PDT by CivilWarguy
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To: nopardons

You beat me to it by 3 posts.


22 posted on 10/25/2005 2:19:09 PM PDT by colorcountry (Proud Parent of a Soldier, a UPS Driver, an Executive, a Construction Worker, and a Student)
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To: Renfield
he did this in the pay of France to undermine the British and American justification for the war in Iraq:

I remember some Freepers speculating just that, that France was behind it in an effort to undermine the President and the war. I wish I could remember which Freepers; they deserve to be recognizes, IMO.

Oh, and I wonder when the NYT, Newsweek, CBS et all will report on this development. Oh, that's right...never.

23 posted on 10/25/2005 2:20:03 PM PDT by alnick
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To: saveliberty

Ping for jaw-dropping...


24 posted on 10/25/2005 2:20:37 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Renfield

You know-- I started posting that I thought this sounded like a BS story, but as I got to thinking about it, it started sounding more plausible. Those ridiculous French would probably play these kinds of petty games just for the shear joy of being able to say "gotcha!" to the hated US/UK.


25 posted on 10/25/2005 2:22:07 PM PDT by agooga (Got Boomstick?)
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To: alnick

I've mentioned the French connection several times, but I could have sworn I saw it posted here from the earliest news stories.


26 posted on 10/25/2005 2:22:45 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: colorcountry; Zacs Mom; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; Happy2BMe; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Boazo; ...

Hey, Bassfire, Boazo, PrimeChoice; can you change those wheels of cheese into YELLOWCAKE??

27 posted on 10/25/2005 2:23:41 PM PDT by bitt (THE PRESIDENT: "Ask the pollsters. My job is to lead and to solve problems. ")
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To: Cicero

So have I. Just last night on another thread. France set us and the Brits up.


28 posted on 10/25/2005 2:24:19 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: colorcountry
As long as the info gets posted, it doesn't matter who posts it. :-)

GMTA !

29 posted on 10/25/2005 2:25:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Renfield

no news here. soon after the Niger story broke, John Batchelor and Loftus said the documents were planted by the french as a poison pill to discredit what was otherwise a legit story. that's been the truth all along - the administration was too quick to pull back on the Niger story, it was true.


30 posted on 10/25/2005 2:26:30 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Publius6961
Herein lies the real news (#42). It was a CIA/French coup. People keep assuming that Rocco did the forgeries, he did not, he just delivered them.
31 posted on 10/25/2005 2:26:41 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Cicero

yes, I've been posting it (among others) all along. but the first place I heard it was from Batchelor.


32 posted on 10/25/2005 2:27:16 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Cicero

It was. All of us knew about this long ago, but it doesn't hurt to have it repeat, especially now.


33 posted on 10/25/2005 2:27:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: alnick; Cicero; colorcountry

See my link in #31 on this thread...it was a CIA/French coup.


34 posted on 10/25/2005 2:28:33 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: Publius6961
Oil for food bucks? Arms contracts? Nuclear Research sales?

Yes to all.
35 posted on 10/25/2005 2:29:56 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: conservativepoet
Let's see how the MSM handles this story.

"Story? What story...?"

36 posted on 10/25/2005 2:30:05 PM PDT by THX 1138
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To: Renfield
And yet the media still ignores that we found 500 Tons of Uranium in Iraq!
37 posted on 10/25/2005 2:30:54 PM PDT by DocRock (Winter Haven)
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To: pbrown

somebody set us up the forgery!


38 posted on 10/25/2005 2:31:12 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: Renfield

Didn't we know this 2 years ago?


39 posted on 10/25/2005 2:33:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: ravingnutter

We haven't heard anything about Porter Goss for months now. The media have stopped screaming about how mean he is to their favorite leakers. I wonder what the significance of that is? Maybe like the dog that didn't bark in Sherlock Holmes?

I doubt whether Fitzgerald will get into any of this extended territory, although it's basic to understanding what Plamegate is about, unless Goss decides to work with him in some way. Usually the CIA protects its own. I sure wish they would act a little differently this time. Bringing the traitors up on charges would help clear the air.


40 posted on 10/25/2005 2:34:08 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

France is a charter member of the Access of Evil.

That is, they never actually start anything (or finish, for that matter), but they'll hop on the bandwagon of any wack-job that promises to call them tomorrow and doesn't make them break a sweat, speak English or bathe.

Germans, Russians, Chinese, Jihadis...the French have never met an anti-Western egomaniac they didn't like.

The fact that they actually paid for this deception is absolute proof that France is officially Against Us.


41 posted on 10/25/2005 2:34:38 PM PDT by WestTexasWend
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To: ravingnutter

WOW and I thought this link was interesting:

I don't know how to go the the exact post but follow the link on #3 here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1507520/posts


42 posted on 10/25/2005 2:34:50 PM PDT by colorcountry (Proud Parent of a Soldier, a UPS Driver, an Executive, a Construction Worker, and a Student)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
If you will notice, the articles all say Rocco "procured" and "assembled" the documents, they never say he actually did the forgeries themselves. He has never admitted that. See this post of mine (#42) for some insight.
43 posted on 10/25/2005 2:35:38 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: thoughtomator

"we" did here, those willing to listen.

the sheeple and the media live in an alternate reality.


44 posted on 10/25/2005 2:36:51 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: nopardons

And don't forget that Joe Wilson's second wife is French.

------

Yes, a Cultural Affairs officer in the French Embassy. Was she in French Intelligence? Did she work with Wilson to cause a scandal to bring down this administration?


45 posted on 10/25/2005 2:37:07 PM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: nopardons
Do you know if anyone's spoken to Ashcroft about the CIA leak?

He recused himself in this case in '03, I think.

I don't remember seeing his name in all these articles about the leak.

46 posted on 10/25/2005 2:37:25 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: txflake

That somebody is france.


47 posted on 10/25/2005 2:38:34 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Cicero

Fitzgerald did request the report from the Italians about the Niger break in, where the letterhead and seals were stolen that were used in the forgeries. Let's just pray he has followed the path far enough. I am comforted by the fact that Cliff Kincaid and Joe diGenova have come up with the same theory as I have. Even moonbat Seymour Hersch got it right, LOL!


48 posted on 10/25/2005 2:38:46 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget; Zeppo; Renfield


Why is the tlegraph article dated Sep 2004?


49 posted on 10/25/2005 2:39:31 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Americanexpat

Was Joe Wilson a Double Agent?


50 posted on 10/25/2005 2:39:59 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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