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In Wilma's wake, relief falls short, tempers shorter
Yahoo!News ^ | October 26, 2005 | Jamie Malernee

Posted on 10/26/2005 7:19:52 AM PDT by mlc9852

No power, no gas, no water--and for many, no help.

South Floridians began to comprehend the long-term affects of Hurricane Wilma on Tuesday, as it became increasingly clear that residents could spend the next few days, if not weeks, waiting in lines for basic supplies, coveting working showers and toilets, and in many cases, kicking themselves for underestimating the damage a Category 2 storm could bring.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: paginglootie; whiners; wilma
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1 posted on 10/26/2005 7:19:53 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

It all gets back to local and state governments NOT BEING PREPARED. Maybe someday the people with DEMAND ACCOUNTABILITY from the people that readily demand their tax dollars.


2 posted on 10/26/2005 7:23:27 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: mlc9852

What did they expect? ....living in Florida after all?...


3 posted on 10/26/2005 7:23:29 AM PDT by Dallas59 (“You love life, while we love death.” - Al-Qaeda / Democratic Party)
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To: Dallas59
"Everybody wants everything yesterday,"

Katrina trained malcontents.

4 posted on 10/26/2005 7:25:06 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: mlc9852

These people had days to prepare; heck after the last hurricane season especially, every resident of Florida should own a generator and keep emergency water and food supplies on hand at all times. What is it about these people that they don't understand "being prepared" ?

I live in the country and am subject to frequent power outages in times of bad weather. I own a generator and keep emergency supplies on hand. I don't stand in line for relief and whine when I have to take care of myself and my family !


5 posted on 10/26/2005 7:28:47 AM PDT by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: EagleUSA

It gets back to individuals not being prepared. Anyone who can catch gray water (rain) can flush a toilet. Anyone with an ounce of sense these days has a supply of bottled water and canned food on hand. Anyone who doesn't absolutely need to fill the gas tank to drive...should not.


6 posted on 10/26/2005 7:29:23 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: mlc9852; Lady Jag; Slings and Arrows; PetroniDE

It's ... KITTY LOOTIE!

7 posted on 10/26/2005 7:29:45 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: mlc9852

And how many MILLION people need help? The MSM is just rabble rousing to try to make Bush (both of them) look bad. They are just feeding the malcontents. We're too much an instant gratification society.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 7:30:56 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: EagleUSA

It all gets back to local and state governments NOT BEING PREPARED

Actually it all gets back to people not being prepared. They are complaining they don't have the supplies they were told a week ago to go get.


9 posted on 10/26/2005 7:31:01 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: mlc9852

Were these the dummies living in mobile homes at the water's edge? Mobile homes should be outlawed in hurricane-susceptible places.


10 posted on 10/26/2005 7:31:19 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: mlc9852

"Wahh Wahh! The government isn't helping us! Wah Wahh"


11 posted on 10/26/2005 7:31:41 AM PDT by BostonianRightist (I looted New Orleans and all I got was 40 of these lousy taglines.)
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To: martin_fierro

Wow. I'd like to know how they did that.


12 posted on 10/26/2005 7:31:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: cinives

That's what I thought. As a former Floridian, we knew we may be without water and power for at least several days after a hurricane and prepared accordingly. Our society has now become so dependent on government that people cannot survive a few days on their own after a hurricane hits. If people followed the advice by officials, they should be okay. I am really tired of listening to them whine.


13 posted on 10/26/2005 7:32:14 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

Everyone supposed to have three days supplies. Bush does a great job, but he doesn't have a magic wand...


14 posted on 10/26/2005 7:33:29 AM PDT by GOPJ (Protest a democrat -- light your hair on fire -- and the MSM still won't take your picture.)
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To: mlc9852

I can understand being in these lines if someone's home is completely destroyed, but I'm guessing that at least some of those waiting in line had the opportunity to lay in food and water prior to the hurricane season. Before winter, we have gallons of old soda bottles filled with water for the toilet, bottles of water for drinking, cans of food, our gas bottles for the grill filled, and so on. It's difficult to imagine people who simply wait for the state to care for them after a storm.


15 posted on 10/26/2005 7:34:14 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mewzilla

Hey, the cats are no dummies.

"Hmmm ... I can either swim through miles of brackish water ... or I can let this guy carry me in a dry plastic box. Hmmm ..."


16 posted on 10/26/2005 7:34:46 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro

Looks like he's been herding cats.

I've heard a lot about that, but never seen photographic proof it happens.


17 posted on 10/26/2005 7:35:46 AM PDT by Constitution Day (When life gives you lemons... Just shut up and eat your damn lemons.)
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To: cinives

Well, said. We are in the same situation and we are also prepared. We could easily go a week without going to the store. (That reminds me that I need to fill up my gas cans. Thanks.) I just can't believe that anyone who lives in FL doesn't already have a generator and plywood ready and doesn't stock up before hurricane season hits. Bottled water can be drunk later if you find out you didn't need it and it's not such a huge outlay. Same with food.


18 posted on 10/26/2005 7:35:50 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: cinives
You're the way most Americans used to be and some still are.

If necessary, I could have, would have walked out of New Orleans pre Katrina. I know some could NOT have, but many could have. Mostly the big fat, "poor" "victims".

I don't understand all the helpless, whining "victims" who didn't think or can't/won't take care of themselves.

Who are the people who expect Uncle Sam to take care of them and provide everything for them?
19 posted on 10/26/2005 7:35:52 AM PDT by garyhope
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To: mlc9852

I am sorry...I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who whine about waiting in line for hours for ice....get in line behind the Katrina victims or better yet...Ivan victims! Some people are still waiting for help from the hurricanes that hit last year and these people are whining because they waited in line for ice!!!


20 posted on 10/26/2005 7:37:39 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (Criminals feed on the indulgence of society's understanding)
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To: kittymyrib
Were these the dummies living in mobile homes at the water's edge? Mobile homes should be outlawed in hurricane-susceptible places.

It wouldn't matter if they lived in mobile homes in hurricane-susceptable or tornado-susceptable places if they didn't expect other people to pay to replace them when they get blown or washed away. You can live on a jetty for all I care, just don't expect me to replace your house if it washes out to sea. And if you can't get insurance and can't affort to replace the house yourself, then you should know better than to live there.

Personally, I'm waiting for the people in Louisiana and Florida to offer to help people up north pay their heating bills this winter...

21 posted on 10/26/2005 7:39:14 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: martin_fierro

LOL. Well, I hope the kid and his mews made out okay :)


22 posted on 10/26/2005 7:39:53 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Constitution Day
Cat herders are a proud bunch and never seek the limelight - lol
23 posted on 10/26/2005 7:42:14 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mlc9852

A suggestion for the Floridians who are finding life difficult. Move to the Midwest of the United States and enjoy our Tornado season where the Federal Government isn't required to "put ice on it".


24 posted on 10/26/2005 7:42:51 AM PDT by hgro (A)
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To: EagleUSA

during the 1994 earthquake here in So Cal i in no way expected the government to bring me water/food. we were without water/electricity for days. i don't recall hearing whining. honestly, this nation is becoming so infantilized by the left and their expectations of the nanny state.


25 posted on 10/26/2005 7:45:26 AM PDT by avital2
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To: EagleUSA

NO! It comes down to people not being prepared. They knew well in advance that the storm was comming. They're complaining about long lines for water and ice, yet they had plenty of time to fill their freezers up with ice and stockpile drinking water beforehand.

There's no excuse for not having water and a few days of food on hand after all the storms that have cause problems there.

People want to complain about long gas lines. There's long gas lines for the same reason there were long gas lines when Carter capped gas prices.

Get rid of the price gouging laws on gasoline, and people will find a way to get gas to the stations. However, it costs a lot of money to move large quantities of gasoline into position after a major storm, and they can't pass those costs onto consumers.

There's no reason for them to move more tanker trucks into position to get gas there quickly. The profit isn't there to justify the expense.

The government should not step in and provide people with things they should have stockpiled on their own except for when the need is critical. The government has limited supplies, and the shouldn't have to give them to people who were too lazy to get what they needed themselves.

This isn't a failure of the government. It's the people becoming to reliant on the government to help themselves.

I'm sick of my tax dollars being spent to give lazy, stupid people bags of ice.

My parents live in Florida. My father is there recovering from open heart surgery. Their neighbors helped my mother put up the storm shutters. Members of their church showed up to clear away debris and take down the storm shutters.

My parents have plenty of food and water stored up. They also have a generator to keep the refridgerator running, and keep the cell phone charged. They have a decent stockpile of gas for the generator and they can siphon more from the car if they need it.

I agree we should demand accountability for our tax dollars. We should demand that people quit relying on FEMA to come in and give them stuff after a hurricane.

What about the poor? Well my parents happen to be white, but they beling to a relatively poor, predominantly black church. Those were the people who came to help because my father was off his feet recovering from surgery.


26 posted on 10/26/2005 7:46:56 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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To: kittymyrib
Were these the dummies living in mobile homes at the water's edge? Mobile homes should be outlawed in hurricane-susceptible places.

"But a son of a son, son of a son, son of a son of a sailor. Son of a gun, load the last ton One step ahead of the jailer I'm just a son of a son, son of a son, son of a son of a sailor The sea's in my veins, my tradition remains. I'm just glad I don't live in a trailer."

27 posted on 10/26/2005 7:48:14 AM PDT by SeeRushToldU_So (It is hotter than two rats screwing in a wool sock in GA.)
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To: mlc9852
Over 2 weeks of notice, and some idiots still didn't bother to stockpile water.

Is it just a coincidence that this happened in (among other places) Broward County?

28 posted on 10/26/2005 7:50:00 AM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: kittymyrib
Mobile homes should be outlawed in hurricane-susceptible places.

FLA put in strict building codes after Hurricane Andrew. For some reason, they still allow mobile homes, which were totally demolished in some areas on Monday.

29 posted on 10/26/2005 7:51:01 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: mlc9852
Did the power go out in South Florida a week before Wilma? In all other parts of the nation we watched hourly the track of the storm and heard over and over that need to prepare by having having, medicine, nonperishable food, etc. Did no one in Florida hear Governor Bush's plea to get prepared?
30 posted on 10/26/2005 7:51:26 AM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: EagleUSA

I suppose the loss of electrical power to 3.2 million customers is Jeb Bush's fault also? I wasn't aware that the electric companies were owned by the government. I also wasn't aware that they are responsible for fixing the power lines and substations. I thought that was Florida Power and Light's job.


31 posted on 10/26/2005 7:52:18 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (Lashed to the USS George W. Bush: "Damn the Torpedos, Full Miers Ahead!!")
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To: hgro

My niece and her family live in Ft. Pierce and have had their electricity knocked out. They have a generator {and have enough gas for 7-10 days} which allows them the opportunity to keep their refrigator on. She said that she also has canned food and bottled water. They did have to put a plastic tarp over the part of the roof that was ripped off but other than that and some shrubs that were destroyed, little damage. Nothing like last year. She is very grateful about the minimal damage and nobody in her town died.


32 posted on 10/26/2005 7:54:12 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: EagleUSA
"It all gets back to local and state governments NOT BEING PREPARED. "

No, it all gets back to people not bothering to prepare themselves. This morning on Fox, people were whining that they had to wait in lines for water. It's only been two days since Wilma hit. These people couldn't fill some containers with water before the storm hit? They couldn't stock up on canned goods before the storm hit? They couldn't fill their cars up with gasoline before the storm hit? Why should it be up to the government? Must the government also hold their hands when they go take a leak?

Then, a short while later, another person they interviewed said that the Publix stores were open in most areas, and that they had food, water, and other supplies.

I guess it's just not the same unless Nanny Government gives it to you...

33 posted on 10/26/2005 7:58:10 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: ncountylee
Katrina trained malcontents.

Training malcontents is a DNC specialty. Their base consists of people with complaints, and they go out of their way to exploit every opportunity to enhance it.

35 posted on 10/26/2005 8:00:35 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: mlc9852
Bush's brother, the president, is to visit Florida on Thursday.

Love that line... (not) Not much respect there. Sheesh!

36 posted on 10/26/2005 8:00:38 AM PDT by DietCoke
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To: cinives

Same here! The last ice storm we had a couple of years ago, we were the last folks to get our electricity. It's because we're so isolated: stands to reason that they'd hook up densely populated areas first. We know that, and we prepare for it.

What's the matter with these people that they don't realize that they're living in a hurricane-prone area, and that "stuff" happens? I have no sympathy for the bunch of whiners I've seen today. I'm sure some people are genuinely hurting, but not the ones interviewed this morning.


37 posted on 10/26/2005 8:03:02 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: mlc9852

OMG!!! Get a grip!! These idiots expect someone standing on their doorstep the minute that the winds are below TS levels.

Jeb had dozens and dozens of trucks ready to deliver food, ice and water as soon as it was declared safe for them to do so.

After a major weather event such as a hurricane, it still takes time to get help to people and make sure that it is safe for the rescuers.

I am sick to death of the whiners!!!! Stuff happens in life - DEAL WITH IT!!!!!


38 posted on 10/26/2005 8:04:22 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: ncountylee
Katrina trained malcontents.

BINGO!!!!! We have a winner!!
39 posted on 10/26/2005 8:05:11 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: mlc9852
"This is incredible. I just cannot believe it," said Sanchez, 47. "I've seen this before. Miami officials said they are prepared, but they are not. Everything is a lie.

"They are gouging me--$1,600 for a $700 generator," complained Aventura resident Jorge Linkewer, who bought the device despite the price.

Some of my fellow Floridians disgust me. These quotes were taken ONE DAY after Wilma came through, and yet they are whining about no ice, no gas, etc.

And they second guy is just too funny. He has the cash to pay $1600 for a $700 generator so he must have been just to darn lazy to drive to the store and buy one before Wilma hit. Sorry, Bubba. You were playing the odds, and playing with your kid's lives, when you decided not to buy a generator beforehand.

And as far as heating oil up North; I believe there is already a program paid for with tax dollars that helps out.

40 posted on 10/26/2005 8:07:32 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: GOPJ; All
Three days is nothing. Millions of Floridians are looking at three WEEKS without power. That is an entirely different kettle of fish.

For example, 100s of thousands of elderly live in high rise condos, now without elevator service, and must struggle, step by step, up ten or more flights of stairs. This is to bring food needed to live home.

Don't smugly laugh at their plight, use it as a lesson for yourself. What if YOUR power were to go out for one month, how well would YOU do?

And it could happen, yes indeed, it could happen. Just imagine an EMP attack on the USA, and the grid down for weeks or months.

I don't think you'd be laughing, no, not one bit.
41 posted on 10/26/2005 8:08:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Motherbear

It's personal responsibility that has fallen short.

I am sick and tired of irresponsible people complaining that they're not being taken care of and stupid people who live in a hurricane zone who don't buy insurance.


42 posted on 10/26/2005 8:09:02 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: mlc9852
"...kicking themselves for underestimating the damage a Category 2 storm could bring."

Whaaaaaah! We were warned! We saw it on TV! TWICE!! And we stayed and didn't prepare. It's the President's fault! WHAAAAAAH!!

43 posted on 10/26/2005 8:10:01 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: mlc9852
"...Tempers Shorter."

That must be why they always send in ice after a hurricane. To cool the whiners down.

"Where's my FEMA check!!!" These hurricane lotteries are really putting a hurt on the taxpayers.

44 posted on 10/26/2005 8:11:35 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: Travis McGee

During and after an ice storm a couple of years back, folks around here were without electricity for almost a month. We were on the generator for about 2 1/2 weeks here.

When I lived in New Orleans during the 60s, there was no power for weeks. In both cases, we managed, and we managed without whining about it.

In both cases, it was understood that living in certain places can come at a cost. In New Orleans, there was the danger of hurricanes. Here, it is the problem of being so isolated that help, if needed, is slow to arrive. In both cases, it was and is worth the risk.

If Floridans don't want to stand in lines for water, they can (a) fill containers before the storm comes, or (b) move inland.


45 posted on 10/26/2005 8:13:30 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: mlc9852

Tough!


46 posted on 10/26/2005 8:13:52 AM PDT by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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To: cinives
I agree with you 100%. I live in South Florida. I lost my home during Hurricane Andrew and rebuilt. People are just depending on the government for everything. I can understand if your home is totally destroyed with everything in it. But the local officials are not Houdini and they tell everyone over and over to have water, non perishable products, etc., for every member of your family for a few days.

People need to be prepared and they are not because most of them are irresponsible and depending on the government for everything. When the gov. does not have bottles of water and ice on their footstep an hour after the hurricane they are complaining. Tough. Be responsible and stop the dependance on others.

Let them whine.
47 posted on 10/26/2005 8:15:50 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: Travis McGee
If they are complaining after not having electricity after a month, that is very different than complaining the day after the hurricane. And everyone who lives in Florida (unless they are just really stupid) knows that Florida has hurricanes. Either be prepared or live somewhere else. Don't expect the government to be your savior. And elderly people who live up high when they are physically unable to traverse stairs aren't too bright, either.
48 posted on 10/26/2005 8:15:52 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: rep-always

Oh by the way, I own a generator and have gas to run it.
It is called being an adult.


49 posted on 10/26/2005 8:17:01 AM PDT by rep-always
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To: Travis McGee

The sick and elderly might, in fact, have a right to complain. Their plight is real. Those standing in lines for 10 hours could have spent half an hour filling water containers, another half an hour gassing up the old jalopy, and still another half an hour making sure there were enough canned goods to get them through. Let's see, an hour and a half vs. 10 hours...I guess for some, that's a real hard choice.


50 posted on 10/26/2005 8:17:57 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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