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The Onion asked to peel presidential seal from site
Globe and Mail ^ | October 26, 2005

Posted on 10/26/2005 12:20:24 PM PDT by EveningStar

The White House is not amused by The Onion, a on-line newspaper that often spoofs the Bush administration, and has asked it to stop using the presidential seal on its website. The seal was still on the website yesterday at the spot where President George W. Bush's weekly radio address is parodied.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: irony; onion; presidentialseal; theonion
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I have laughed myself to tears over Onion articles in the past. However, when they refused to allow FR to even link to their site, they showed their true leftist colors.
1 posted on 10/26/2005 12:20:25 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I dunno... from my limited perusals, I'd say the Onion seems to hammer everyone


3 posted on 10/26/2005 12:23:47 PM PDT by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: William Creel

Yup. Sure are. I think it's published in the Chelsea section of Manhattan.


4 posted on 10/26/2005 12:23:59 PM PDT by RexBeach ("The rest of the world is three drinks behind." -Humphrey Bogart)
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To: EveningStar

How can they stop someone from linking to their site?


5 posted on 10/26/2005 12:24:03 PM PDT by Khepera (Do not remove by penalty of law!)
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To: EveningStar

Not only that, but you would think that they would parody the seal. But I am sure that would take too much work.


6 posted on 10/26/2005 12:24:10 PM PDT by Sthitch
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To: EveningStar

I've enjoyed the Onion also - I get a huge kick when someone posts an article from their site here and people don't realize it is a parody.

That said, they have gotten a lot more anti-Bush and a lot less funny in recent months. I noticed it happened about when they redid their site - I wonder if there was a change in management.


7 posted on 10/26/2005 12:24:15 PM PDT by linear (Repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics!!)
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To: Khepera

They call their lawyer.


8 posted on 10/26/2005 12:25:51 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Enjoy Every Sandwich)
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To: EveningStar
However, when they refused to allow FR to even link to their site, they showed their true leftist colors.

How is it being leftist to defend your copyright? I think they lost a lot of readers with the action, but given their revenue model and their heavy ad-intensive website, it was an understandable action.

9 posted on 10/26/2005 12:30:04 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: King Prout
I dunno... from my limited perusals, I'd say the Onion seems to hammer everyone

I read an interview with one of the writers. He said they try to be balanced but the creative staff is all liberal therefore they do beat on repubs more. At least he was being honest about it, and frankly, is it reasonable to expect a humor magazine to be objective?

10 posted on 10/26/2005 12:30:36 PM PDT by VoiceOfBruck (But what does chicken taste like?)
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To: EveningStar
The funniest thing I've ever seen in print was a profile picture of a horse with the Onion's headline: "Area Horse Hung Like Horse!"
11 posted on 10/26/2005 12:31:58 PM PDT by RightResponse (What if the Left, just got up and .....)
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To: EveningStar
See, this is where I think Republicans do themselves a disservice. It makes the Bush administration look like a bunch of tight-assed, humorless jerks. Lighten up, Francis.
12 posted on 10/26/2005 12:33:10 PM PDT by drew
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To: VoiceOfBruck
He said they try to be balanced but the creative staff is all liberal therefore they do beat on repubs more.

It's also just a lot easier to make fun of the party in power. They mocked Clinton plenty back when he was in office: "President Feels Nations Pain, Breasts"

13 posted on 10/26/2005 12:33:16 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: drew

And suddenly I can't get the Onion's website. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN! (Cue foreboding music).


14 posted on 10/26/2005 12:34:28 PM PDT by drew
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To: RightResponse

My favorite was "Death Rate Still 100%."


15 posted on 10/26/2005 12:34:37 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: RightResponse

The one that keeps coming to mind for me is "Googly Moogly. Great?"


16 posted on 10/26/2005 12:34:40 PM PDT by Heyworth
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To: Androcles
How is it being leftist to defend your copyright?

How is preventing linking in any why related to copyright?

A link occurs only on the source site, and does not affect, steal, copy, or reproduce the target site.

The SC has ruled that you can not prevent linking, except when the content linked to is itself in violation of some copyright/patent.

17 posted on 10/26/2005 12:34:47 PM PDT by adamsjas
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To: drew

Try deleting your FR cookies, I think that'll do it.


18 posted on 10/26/2005 12:35:18 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: drew

Absolutely right.


19 posted on 10/26/2005 12:35:53 PM PDT by Constitution Day (When life gives you lemons... Just shut up and eat your damn lemons.)
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To: adamsjas

Linking isn't illegal. I presumed you meant their excerpt only policy - My comment on copyright relates to the fact that their initial objections were from when we had full Onion articles up on FR. As far as I know we can still link back to them, it's just more irritating and less pleasant to do it via FR.
Are you saying they have fromally requested a no link policy from FR?


20 posted on 10/26/2005 12:39:29 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: drew

Very mysterioso. I can't access it either. This is the single greatest puzzle ever to confront the human mind, and the outcome could very well shape the course of history itself.


21 posted on 10/26/2005 12:40:19 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (Astro-nut)
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To: Androcles
Are you saying they have fromally requested a no link policy from FR?

Not that I know of... I was simply replying to a post which was replying to a post, which was..... Well you get the point...

22 posted on 10/26/2005 12:45:42 PM PDT by adamsjas
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To: Cyclopean Squid
Very mysterioso. I can't access it either.

Nor me. I guess when the Whitehouse asks you to NOT USE THE PRESIDENTIAL SEAL You would be wise to comply.

23 posted on 10/26/2005 12:48:43 PM PDT by adamsjas
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So sue me.

24 posted on 10/26/2005 12:50:11 PM PDT by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: EveningStar

I haven't been able to get the onion all day today...

Wonder if they're "down"?


25 posted on 10/26/2005 12:50:19 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: EveningStar

If I'm not mistaken the Presidential seal is public domain. The White House can ask them to take it down, but they are powerless to MAKE them take it down.

How many movies, book covers, etc. have had the Presidential seal appear in or on them?


26 posted on 10/26/2005 12:51:37 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (5-2 Marvin and Carson rule!!! Who Dey! Who Dey! Who Dey Think Gonna Beat Dem Bengals!!!)
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To: linear

I noticed the same thing... and around the same time.

Too bad. Its actually affecting my enjoyment of their stuff in general.


27 posted on 10/26/2005 12:51:50 PM PDT by Pessimist
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To: RightResponse

My favorite article from The Onion is "South postpones rising again for yet another year"


28 posted on 10/26/2005 12:51:58 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EveningStar

Onions have layers...


29 posted on 10/26/2005 12:51:59 PM PDT by YouPosting2Me
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To: Heyworth

And post 2000 election they were hammering Gore really good.


30 posted on 10/26/2005 12:52:37 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EveningStar

Didn't read the Onion during the Clinton years? He offered a lot of good material for the Onion. And they sure used it.


31 posted on 10/26/2005 12:53:35 PM PDT by M203M4
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To: Androcles

I believe that The Onion requested that not even a link to their site be put up on FR in threads and JimRob complied.


32 posted on 10/26/2005 12:53:49 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: EveningStar

The Onion? Didn't they cease to exist sometime about a year ago?


33 posted on 10/26/2005 12:55:10 PM PDT by gridlock (Nature started the fight for survival, and now she wants to quit because she's losing... Monty Burns)
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To: GreenLanternCorps
U.S. Code
TITLE 18
PART I
CHAPTER 33

§ 713. Use of likenesses of the great seal of the United States, the seals of the President and Vice President, the seal of the United States Senate, the seal of the United States House of Representatives, and the seal of the United States Congress

(a) Whoever knowingly displays any printed or other likeness of the great seal of the United States, or of the seals of the President or the Vice President of the United States, or the seal of the United States Senate, or the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or the seal of the United States Congress, or any facsimile thereof, in, or in connection with, any advertisement, poster, circular, book, pamphlet, or other publication, public meeting, play, motion picture, telecast, or other production, or on any building, monument, or stationery, for the purpose of conveying, or in a manner reasonably calculated to convey, a false impression of sponsorship or approval by the Government of the United States or by any department, agency, or instrumentality thereof, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(b) Whoever, except as authorized under regulations promulgated by the President and published in the Federal Register, knowingly manufactures, reproduces, sells, or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seals of the President or Vice President, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(c) Whoever, except as directed by the United States Senate, or the Secretary of the Senate on its behalf, knowingly uses, manufactures, reproduces, sells or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seal of the United States Senate, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(d) Whoever, except as directed by the United States House of Representatives, or the Clerk of the House of Representatives on its behalf, knowingly uses, manufactures, reproduces, sells or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seal of the United States House of Representatives, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(e) Whoever, except as directed by the United States Congress, or the Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House of Representatives, acting jointly on its behalf, knowingly uses, manufactures, reproduces, sells or purchases for resale, either separately or appended to any article manufactured or sold, any likeness of the seal of the United States Congress, or any substantial part thereof, except for manufacture or sale of the article for the official use of the Government of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

(f) A violation of the provisions of this section may be enjoined at the suit of the Attorney General,

(1) in the case of the great seal of the United States and the seals of the President and Vice President, upon complaint by any authorized representative of any department or agency of the United States;

(2) in the case of the seal of the United States Senate, upon complaint by the Secretary of the Senate;

(3) in the case of the seal of the United States House of Representatives, upon complaint by the Clerk of the House of Representatives; and

(4) in the case of the seal of the United States Congress, upon complaint by the Secretary of the Senate and the Clerk of the House of Representatives, acting jointly.

34 posted on 10/26/2005 12:55:50 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: Constitution Day

Your tagline made me laugh out loud!


35 posted on 10/26/2005 12:56:07 PM PDT by drew
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To: EveningStar


Will "The Onion" fall under the new FEC regulations?

Since they're lefties, I'm guessing "no".


36 posted on 10/26/2005 12:56:32 PM PDT by Tzimisce
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To: YouPosting2Me

You mean, like a cake? ;-)


37 posted on 10/26/2005 12:56:40 PM PDT by linear (Repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics!!)
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To: drew
See, this is where I think Republicans do themselves a disservice. It makes the Bush administration look like a bunch of tight-assed, humorless jerks. Lighten up, Francis.

At least they didn't cover up nude statues. Oh, wait.

38 posted on 10/26/2005 12:57:52 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: drew

Glad you liked it.

I am a Republican, but not a 'tight-assed, humorless jerk.'


39 posted on 10/26/2005 12:58:02 PM PDT by Constitution Day (When life gives you lemons... Just shut up and eat your damn lemons.)
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To: Phantom Lord

They did one about Congress selling naming rights to the capital building. A Chinese newspaper picked it up and ran it as fact. lol.


40 posted on 10/26/2005 12:59:47 PM PDT by linear (Repeal the Second Law of Thermodynamics!!)
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To: linear

"You mean, like a cake? ;-)"

Parfait... everybody loves Parfait.... best damn thing on the planet!


41 posted on 10/26/2005 1:16:34 PM PDT by YouPosting2Me
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To: Phantom Lord; Jim Robinson
I believe that The Onion requested that not even a link to their site be put up on FR in threads and JimRob complied.

Can this be confirmed?

42 posted on 10/26/2005 1:22:34 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

yup


43 posted on 10/26/2005 1:23:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

That's weird. Did they offer any explanation, or was it just that they hated us and didn't want the site to get any benefit that might come from posting a mere link with no excerpt?


44 posted on 10/26/2005 1:28:26 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Phantom Lord

Most bizarre! Thanks for the info folks.


45 posted on 10/26/2005 1:29:14 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/985865/posts


46 posted on 10/26/2005 1:30:19 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: GraniteStateConservative

"Can this be confirmed?"

...and did they make the same request to DUmmies?


47 posted on 10/26/2005 1:34:56 PM PDT by FishFace222
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To: Jim Robinson

Is it this section?

"In addition, you may not use the material in any other manner whatsoever."

I didn't see any explicit reference to linking.


48 posted on 10/26/2005 1:50:49 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Bayback is a bitch eh?


49 posted on 10/26/2005 2:09:38 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative

I don't see any good reason to link them.


50 posted on 10/26/2005 2:10:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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